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Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 07:06 PM

Is there anyway I can swap out my automatic transmission to a manual
 
Sorry if this is a noob question, I am new here. I own a 2013 Subaru BRZ limited auto trans with paddle shifters

I have been playing around with it lately, going out with my friends to empty lots to do donuts and other fun stuff.

My friend owns a manual BRZ 2012(I think) I realized its way easier to drift/donut and the driving experience is way better too. I started off driving a manual but had to get the BRZ because it was a great deal.

After having it for 7 months I am tired of auto, any advice on who I would go to? To get a manual transmission? Also a price estimate will be great

Thanks for all your help

PS : if you have an auto BRZ too pls share your experience with drifting it or just fun stuff like donuts and figure 8s


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Freeman 12-28-2015 07:07 PM

Trade it in for a manual?

Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 07:08 PM

I want to keep my car as I got an aftermarket exhaust, better rims and tinted windows. I also put in a new sound system recently


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jawn 12-28-2015 07:11 PM

It'll be cheaper just to change out the final drive and keep the auto, or part out and trade the auto for a manual.

Freeman 12-28-2015 07:11 PM

....Well that would make it harder. No way to take that stuff off, put it all back to stock, and then trade it in? I mean I'm sure you can swap over to a manual from the auto but I think trading it in might be the easiest route to go. Assuming yours is paid off and wouldn't add any additional financial burden.

Kimsey47 12-28-2015 07:15 PM

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Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 07:24 PM

It would be the easiest route if I was the first owner of the car. I could be wrong but I don't think I'll get a good chunk of money for it if a 3rd person buys it off of me


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mengmoua 12-28-2015 07:27 PM

You can try kelley blue book to to get an estimate on your car's trade in value. Ur best bet is to turn it back to stock and trade it for a manual.

Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 07:28 PM

Now that's useful info, I did not know about Kelley blue book thanks so much


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mav1178 12-28-2015 07:35 PM

You can, but ask yourself this:

Do you want to take a $1000-2000 loss on value of the car by trading it in and buying a comparable manual?
Or do you want to take a $2000-3000 loss on parts needed to swap to manual?

-alex

Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 07:37 PM

I bought it for about 25k the blue book value right now says 20k. I guess I'll just have to weigh out the pros and cons a bit more.

But if I decide to go the way of switches trans (which seems like a bad idea according to the responses) who would I hit up? Dealership? Aftermarket shop? Like I have no clue haha


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Cole 12-28-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kushbrz13 (Post 2492810)
I bought it for about 25k the blue book value right now says 20k. I guess I'll just have to weigh out the pros and cons a bit more.

But if I decide to go the way of switches trans (which seems like a bad idea according to the responses) who would I hit up? Dealership? Aftermarket shop? Like I have no clue haha


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Do it yourself, or else you're throwing even more money away. Like everyone else said, just trade your car in for a manual. Literally any hit below $4000 you take, you'll still come out "ahead" versus doing a transmission swap.

Not trying to be an ass, but you sound like you have literally no idea what's involved in a swap like this. It's not like in the old days where it was swap the transmissions out for each other, there's tons of electronics and stuff you need to consider as well

Another option is to just drive your AT and enjoy the shit out of it like countless others do.

Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 08:13 PM

You are absolutely right I have no clue how to do a swap that's why I was here to see if I could get it done from someone else but I see a few trade offers around my area I'll look into it.

Probably going to end up leaving it as an AT and spend that money that I would have spend on a trans switch on a turbo


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jawn 12-28-2015 08:22 PM

Before you go turbo, I'd look at getting a different final drive. Either a 4.56 or 4.67 would make the automatic's gearing feel pretty close to the manual. I'm too lazy to do the math right now, but I'm sure someone who's done it can chime in.

Kushbrz13 12-28-2015 08:30 PM

I just found a different thread on final drive and looks like the 4.88s might be something I am interested in.

I want to drive one before I actually do it


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Tor 12-28-2015 08:51 PM

"Never throw good money after bad!"

I.e. if you are not happy with the AT, stop spending more money on it. If you e.g. go forced induction, it would still bother you that it isn't a manual.

Pull out the mods you did already. How hard can it be to pull off some wheel, change exhaust and take a stereo out?

You car may have lost value since you bought it, but so has comparable manuals of similar age and mileage. I.e. you should be able to do it without a loss.

Toyota86.ir 12-29-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2492781)
It'll be cheaper just to change out the final drive and keep the auto, or part out and trade the auto for a manual.

I changed the FD 4.88 but the MT is so better in gear ratio.
Driving feeling in manual is better

humfrz 12-29-2015 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tor (Post 2492867)
"Never throw good money after bad!"

I.e. if you are not happy with the AT, stop spending more money on it. If you e.g. go forced induction, it would still bother you that it isn't a manual.

Pull out the mods you did already. How hard can it be to pull off some wheel, change exhaust and take a stereo out?

You car may have lost value since you bought it, but so has comparable manuals of similar age and mileage. I.e. you should be able to do it without a loss.

@Kushbrz13 .......... there ya go ...... @Tor has the plan ......:thumbsup:

Now, stop thinking about a swap ....... :slap:

;)


humfrz

RichardsFRS 12-29-2015 06:54 AM

Is the car in good shape? You can probably trade it for a MT and not lose any money if at all. I bought my 2013MT for a little over 15 with 43k on it. I can out right sell it and make money I'm pretty sure, but I'm having a lot of fun in my little car, so I don't see that happening

Also about the parts, take them off and replace with stock then trade, put parts on new MT car, best of both worlds. I don't think you will be happy now with anything but a MT car because its in your head now

Ashikabi 12-29-2015 01:52 PM

I understand swap is super hard in these, not like an old Honda where you just change the shifter and add the clutch cylinder. I'm pretty handy with stuff but I would not try it. Return to stock, get a manual, put the parts you bought on it. Probably be able to trade auto for manual with little loss

SUB-FT86 12-29-2015 01:57 PM

Do you use the paddles 95% of the time? I just can't seem to understand what is so great about the manual vs the auto? The only issue I have with mines is I wish I had a 4.88 or 5.29 FD so I could always be more in the powerband and the FD makes the auto move more rapid-like like a DCT IMHO.

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wise345 12-31-2015 09:17 PM

Theres no point in swapping, not going to be cost effective. I'd say put it back to stock and just trade then put your aftermarket goodies on your new manual:)

cdrazic93 12-31-2015 10:20 PM

Ironic you dont like the auto/prefer the manual when you say you wanted to go turbo and the manual is more fragile than the auto in this case...

nova.86 01-02-2016 06:10 PM

you could try finding someone that wants the AT version, I'm sure there's bound to be someone that is sick of driving their manual FRS/BRZ in traffic or something lol. Then it'd be a simple trade, and the AT costs 1k more than the manual if identical in most ways (mileage)


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