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MisterSheep 12-04-2015 06:08 PM

When the smog checks hit
 
I wonder how many people will be trying to sell their turbo kits or their non-carb legal supercharger kits when our cars hit 5 years old (2018 for 2013's) also by then I wonder how much the price of the kits will go down by. I know we have several people in the norcal section who have SBD turbo kits. Better invest in a smog hookup within the next 2 years before us 2013's start to get smogged.

EzyBrzy 12-04-2015 06:17 PM

Smog hook ups are NOT cheap lol. . .

I'm just worried about voiding warranty, so I'm hesitant on aftermarket parts.

nyrip 12-04-2015 06:18 PM

My worry level on this is right at no fucks given........
Aaaaaaaannd that's me trolling......

MisterSheep 12-04-2015 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyrip (Post 2470433)
My worry level on this is right at no fucks given........
Aaaaaaaannd that's me trolling......

Yeah yeah yeah... we ALL know. :lol:


I bet you that 99% of the people on this forum wished they had your hook-up.

strat61caster 12-04-2015 06:26 PM

There are probably more catless headers than non-CARB legal FI kits floating around out there.

The 'help my car won't pass smog whyyyyy?' posts should be fun from 2nd, 3rd, Nth owners with great follow up posts like 'ugh my car sounds lame now'

MisterSheep 12-04-2015 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2470443)
There are probably more catless headers than non-CARB legal FI kits floating around out there.

The 'help my car won't pass smog whyyyyy?' posts should be fun from 2nd, 3rd, Nth owners with great follow up posts like 'ugh my car sounds lame now'


Catless header is a little bit easy to get away with. Just swap the oem header before your smog. I know swapping headers isn't always the easiest thing in the world but hey, wanna pass smog don't you?

It'll be a lot harder for people with FI set-ups to just swap it back to stock for smog

PMok 12-04-2015 07:15 PM

aaaaaand that's why I'd be going with a CARB legal setup. :paddle:

BigFatFlip 12-04-2015 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMok (Post 2470482)
aaaaaand that's why I'd be going with a CARB legal setup. :paddle:

With age comes wisdom my friend ;)

KR-S 12-04-2015 07:43 PM

If I go FI, I'm going with either a Jackson Racing S/C or Edelbrock S/C. Both CARB legal kits.

strat61caster 12-04-2015 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 2470512)
If I go FI, I'm going with either a Jackson Racing S/C or Edelbrock S/C. Both CARB legal kits.

I keep waiting for one to fail in CARB legal trim, but in ~3 years I think I'll be getting one of the two, while expensive at $5k/80whp, it's hard to ignore a ~50% power increase that's legal, hasn't sacrificed reliability, and can be installed DIY.

:drool:

:burnrubber:

nyrip 12-04-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2470437)
I bet you that 99% of the people on this forum wished they had your hook-up.

I have no crazy hook up. Just join the military.

But believe I'll be there to swoop up all the non carb legal FI kits and headers when smog days do come.......

misooscar 12-05-2015 03:31 AM

lots of time
 
Think of it as an opportunity to rebuild the blower...

And bust a few knuckles on the uninstall-reinstall stock- uninstall stock- re-install the boost...

KR-S 12-05-2015 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2470543)
I keep waiting for one to fail in CARB legal trim, but in ~3 years I think I'll be getting one of the two, while expensive at $5k/80whp, it's hard to ignore a ~50% power increase that's legal, hasn't sacrificed reliability, and can be installed DIY.

:drool:

:burnrubber:

Yep, I'm in the same boat. I may either do it 2-3 years, most likely 3, when the warranty is up on my car.

ndsleep612 12-05-2015 12:15 PM

Easiest and less headache is to stick with CARB legal FI. Even though it won't make as much power as the turbo kits, it's CARB legal.

strat61caster 12-05-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndsleep612 (Post 2470941)
Easiest and less headache is to stick with CARB legal FI. Even though it won't make as much power as the turbo kits, it's CARB legal.

Works has a CARB legal turbo kit. The issue is that the tune needs to be certified as well, not sure if you could tune a CARB legal kit for more power and still pass, there is headroom on the superchargers from the CARB trim.

StegaDragon 12-05-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2470978)
Works has a CARB legal turbo kit. The issue is that the tune needs to be certified as well, not sure if you could tune a CARB legal kit for more power and still pass, there is headroom on the superchargers from the CARB trim.

Easy fix spend $200 bucks on an extra ecu and swap when time to smog, so many of these cars are hitting the junkyard that they are pretty cheap

SC10N driver

StegaDragon 12-05-2015 03:41 PM

I like how many people are buying catted headers that aren't carb legal

SC10N driver

EzyBrzy 12-05-2015 07:12 PM

Maybe they don't want a loud exhaust. . .

funwheeldrive 12-05-2015 07:18 PM

Do they make CARB legal headers?

Clipdat 12-05-2015 07:24 PM

For our cars, not that I know of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2471161)
Do they make CARB legal headers?


BigFatFlip 12-05-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2471161)
Do they make CARB legal headers?

That's kinda contradicting. CARB requires that OEM cats be retained, which all the CARB FI options do.

StegaDragon 12-05-2015 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzyBrzy (Post 2471156)
Maybe they don't want a loud exhaust. . .

That's what resonators and mufflers are for

SC10N driver

EzyBrzy 12-05-2015 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StegaDragon (Post 2471176)
That's what resonators and mufflers are for

SC10N driver

Maybe I'm just old, but with stock exhaust and just an axle-back, my exhaust was loud for me. Switched back to stock.

StegaDragon 12-05-2015 09:25 PM

I get you. I run an HKS Legamax Sports, thing is quieter than stock. but that's why I said mufflers and resonators, they keep the noise and restrictions down

SC10N driver

StegaDragon 12-05-2015 09:29 PM

I used to run a cut up stock muffler and deleted resonator only growled on the cold start and hard acceleration but quite during my daily 45 mile commute

SC10N driver

exE36M3 12-07-2015 10:25 AM

Once you have kids you realize a car without emissions equipment isn't a good thing.

I'm no crazy environmentalist, but when you see what ZERO emissions policies do in China (e.g. you literally can't breathe in the air), buying a CARB legal kit makes a lot of sense.

StegaDragon 12-07-2015 11:19 AM

Yup that's why I'm sitting here waiting on my WORK's stage 2 CARB legal kit to ship

SC10N driver


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