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fang_gt86 12-04-2015 01:35 PM

'13 FRS MT 26k
 
Saw a '13 FRS MT with 26k for $14k. Clean and stock. How much you guys think it should be going for? What's the catch?

go_a_way1 12-04-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fang_gt86 (Post 2470047)
Saw a '13 FRS MT with 26k for $14k. Clean and stock. How much you guys think it should be going for? What's the catch?

Rebuilt title??

fang_gt86 12-04-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2470050)
Rebuilt title??

Owner says it's a "clean" title". I haven't run VIN check yet though.

Tcoat 12-04-2015 01:43 PM

I would be looking very closely. Seems way low for a clean title vehicle.

Tt3Sheppard 12-04-2015 01:44 PM

I think the prices are getting close to this amount seems reasonable.

YamahaR86 12-04-2015 01:47 PM

Must've been in a few accidents for "good" condition. Run a carfax or something on it.

fang_gt86 12-04-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2470062)
I would be looking very closely. Seems way low for a clean title vehicle.

Yes, it's too damn good. I've seen many rebuilt with more milage for more than $14k.

Cedars 12-04-2015 01:54 PM

Man have a good look around it and see if everything looks normal, open the engine compartment check to see if screws that are normally left alone have been unscrewed, get a flash light and kneel down and have a good look underneath it, look in the trunk see if everything looks normal on both sides and the same, look for traces of paint that's not supposed to be there and check the car fax and check the car at a mechanic and body shop.

MuseChaser 12-04-2015 02:06 PM

It sounds like a very good deal, but I don't know if it's a too-good-to-be-true deal.. it could be legit. Remember, this is a niche market car. To us, it's a great car. To the general populace, it's an impractical car that can't be driven safely year round (WRONG.. but that's how most folks feel about RWD these days). The market is slow on these, and they sit on dealer's floors for a long time typically.

I paid 17,750 for mine w/ 22,500 on it (FR-S base, manual, argento), Toyota certified (12/12k comp, 7 yr/100K drivetrain) from a dealer a little over a month ago. 14K in the private market, no warranty... it's not that far off.

Just sayin'. Look at it closely, of course, and DO check into the title history for sure. If that checks out, it may actually be just a very good deal, and not a big fat mess!

Barry

Turbo95eg6 12-04-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 2470064)
I think the prices are getting close to this amount seems reasonable.

Nah

Hotrodheart 12-04-2015 02:27 PM

I recently got a wholesale offer of $15300 from the Toyota dealer I bought the car from. This was an outright purchase; not a trade-in. Mine is an 2013 AT, but that doesn't account for THAT much difference.

cdq85 12-04-2015 02:57 PM

something wrong. 17-18k is a fair deal on something like that. in the 16,000's and you are doing very well. I vote rebuilt title or just some old guy that goes through cars quickly and doesn't care about losing a couple bucks just so he can move it quickly.

Jrryjms07 12-04-2015 03:10 PM

Get me the vin and I can pull the carfax

strat61caster 12-04-2015 03:13 PM

Mileage, if it really is accident free.

I've seen two or three that cheap as well that appear to be not a scam. Maybe not the best examples, but yes if you're patient and willing to travel (or lucky, or don't care about prior crash damage) you could get an 86 in your driveway for $15k nowadays.

http://www.libertyautocity.com/used/...d1ce98a09d.htm

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...6095/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...9553/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...3288/overview/

Personally, I'd save up an extra few thousand and get a nicer one.

Tcoat 12-04-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2470182)
Mileage, if it really is accident free.

I've seen two or three that cheap as well that appear to be not a scam. Maybe not the best examples, but yes if you're patient and willing to travel (or lucky, or don't care about prior crash damage) you could get an 86 in your driveway for $15k nowadays.

http://www.libertyautocity.com/used/...d1ce98a09d.htm

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...6095/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...9553/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...3288/overview/

Personally, I'd save up an extra few thousand and get a nicer one.

Those samples make sense with mileage pushing 100K but not for the one he posted with only 26 k.

NyC Zn6 12-04-2015 03:33 PM

these cars depreciate so much lol

fang_gt86 12-04-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrryjms07 (Post 2470177)
Get me the vin and I can pull the carfax

I'm still waiting on VIN from owner.

strat61caster 12-04-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2470189)
Those samples make sense with mileage pushing 100K but not for the one he posted with only 26 k.

Yup, missed that, odds are it has hidden issues, maybe it was returned as a lemon or has a replaced engine if the record doesn't outright carry an accident.

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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2470204)
these cars depreciate so much lol

Not really, this car is pretty much bang-on the average of all cars for depreciation if not a little better, not bad for a relatively low production sports car. Yeah if you expected Civic/Camry/Tacoma depreciation you'd be pretty disappointed, if you expected sports car depreciation you'd be at least adequately satisfied or pleasantly surprised.

We're over 3 years in and the nice ones are still asking $18k+ depending on region, compared to this chart below.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/ho...fographic.html

02.ACCORD.DUDE 12-04-2015 04:39 PM

What reason did the owner give for selling?

Seems like a very low price... If possible I'd probably have a mechanic you trust take a second look at the car.

fang_gt86 12-04-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2470281)
What reason did the owner give for selling?

Seems like a very low price... If possible I'd probably have a mechanic you trust take a second look at the car.

Not sure yet. Still waiting on the VIN# before I even bother to ask anything else.

WinnaWinna17 12-04-2015 06:39 PM

Nice find I will buy it for 14100$

Thanks for the info.

The price i$ right, come on down!!!

2much 12-04-2015 07:37 PM

this really makes me think as an owner of a 2013 with only 30k miles...

SpidyJ 12-04-2015 10:42 PM

I saw a 13 it very low mi. for $12995.........salvage title.

02.ACCORD.DUDE 12-05-2015 12:23 AM

I recall seeing 2 for $16,000 - $16,500 east coast about a year ago, which in the NJ - PA area is the lowest I think I've seen them...

One was being sold by a dealer and included a $2,000 loyalty discount in SUPER SMALL text on the advertisement, the other I never looked into...

I'm curious to see what the Op. finds out, for his sake I hope the car is legit and he can snag the deal.

caliprep 12-08-2015 10:22 PM

not unreasonable, I was given an offer of $20K on a 2014 MT with 18K miles rofl.

UFO 12-09-2015 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 2much (Post 2470455)
this really makes me think as an owner of a 2013 with only 30k miles...

Don't worry about it; look at the prices on Autotrader and you'll probably see there's nothing to worry about. People BS about what they paid on the internet constantly and these 'too good to be true' deals are, well, just that. Yeah, cars depreciate but it doesn't appear that these cars are any worse than others.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 12-12-2015 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2470097)
Remember, this is a niche market car. To us, it's a great car. To the general populace, it's an impractical car that can't be driven safely year round (WRONG.. but that's how most folks feel about RWD these days). The market is slow on these, and they sit on dealer's floors for a long time typically.

Sort of :offtopic:
but that's exactly the problem with sports cars in the long term for companies though.

My friends mom is a manager at a Nissan Dealership, and his father is a manager at a Major Dodge, Chrysler Jeep Fiat dealer in the area and works for MOPAR there. My friend worked there over the summers and such when we were leaving high school and specifically the online sales stuff. They hated cars like the GT-R, 370z, Challenger, viper, abarth, and SRT vehicles sales wise because they sat on the lot for around 5-8 months and they would get calls and messages online for them and then no one would show up with money. Cars like the Durango, Grand Caravan, dart, versa, Rogue and pathfinder they would get at least 3-4 of sold each day alone online by legitimate people further away. The market for these cars is exactly as described it's a niche only car people or people that like the look of the car and don't need anything "practical" will buy it.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 12-12-2015 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fang_gt86 (Post 2470047)
Saw a '13 FRS MT with 26k for $14k. Clean and stock. How much you guys think it should be going for? What's the catch?

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2470050)
Rebuilt title??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2470062)
I would be looking very closely. Seems way low for a clean title vehicle.

I have a feeling it's some sort of flood title vehicle or something that was re-salvaged or rebuilt and somehow the records are hidden, I've seen a few in my area of PA that are at 13-16k with 26k miles. We won't know till the VIN is given and run, also I think a Toyota Certified mechanic needs to look over the entire car if it checks out and you get that far.


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