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bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 01:01 AM

Trade for a 92 NSX??
 
I have a supercharged 2013 frs including authentic Bride Giass II, work wheels + many more.

Some guy on craigslist is willing to trade his 92 NSX plus 15k$ with 20k+ engine miles, 120k+ body miles. List for the price of 40k$

What you guys think?

The NSX has always been my 'dream car' but now i feel its too outdated.

86Tony 11-16-2015 01:09 AM

Shieet i say go for it, the nsx is also one of my dream car it very reliable. Looks real good cant really go wrong with it. In the future if u do decied you dont like the NA1 you can always sell it out for pretty much the same.price you got it for.and get back in a used 86 for cheap.

BlackJesus 11-16-2015 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bacon_cheese_beer (Post 2452621)
I have a supercharged 2013 frs including authentic Bride Giass II, work wheels + many more.

Some guy on craigslist is willing to trade his 92 NSX plus 15k$ with 20k+ engine miles, 120k+ body miles. List for the price of 40k$

What you guys think?

The NSX has always been my 'dream car' but now i feel its too outdated.

can you post a link? It seems too good to be true unless something is wrong with his car.

bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJesus (Post 2452626)
can you post a link? It seems too good to be true unless something is wrong with his car.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5305516932.html

Phantobe 11-16-2015 01:20 AM

Looks pretty awesome, have you driven an NSX before?

The trade seems fair for the most part, you could probably talk him down a little bit since you're supercharged.

Its a 90s japanese sports car of course its outdated, I'd look at things like ownership costs. Since its a Honda I'm sure the drivetrain is bulletproof and probably pretty basic maintenance stuff.

The interior will for sure feel old but that exterior styling never gets old >_>

Alltezza 11-16-2015 01:20 AM

Holy shit that's not a bad deal but for some reason Idk man I think I'd keep the BRZ

BlackJesus 11-16-2015 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bacon_cheese_beer (Post 2452627)

Hmm get it if you dont care about the repaint. Make sure you check under the care for wreck damages. Better yet spend $50-100 to get it inspected before trading it.
Is it going to be an even trade?

bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJesus (Post 2452639)
Hmm get it if you dont care about the repaint. Make sure you check under the care for wreck damages. Better yet spend $50-100 to get it inspected before trading it.
Is it going to be an even trade?

No its plus 15k$

DarkSunrise 11-16-2015 01:33 AM

If the NSX has been your dream car, I would go test drive it and see what you think - it would probably make the decision much easier. It's over 20 years old now, but could be worth it for a car you love. Personally I think they look incredible even after all these years.

swarb 11-16-2015 01:53 AM

I've driven one. It has great seating position and a peppy motor, but don't expect it to feel powerful though. The gears seemed a little long but then again my personal car was very short geared. Steering is responsive and communicates to the driver well, the one I drove had no power steering and didn't need it.

Car is reliable enough to daily drive, but seating position is very low. Not worth $40k imo. I'd point you towards a c5/c6 z06 if you wanted a performer. I believe stability control is non-existent also. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it fully because MR isn't exactly easy to drive. But LQQK at it!!

bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2452651)
I've driven one. It has great seating position and a peppy motor, but don't expect it to feel powerful though. The gears seemed a little long but then again my personal car was very short geared. Steering is responsive and communicates to the driver well, the one I drove had no power steering and didn't need it.

Car is reliable enough to daily drive, but seating position is very low. Not worth $40k imo. I'd point you towards a c5/c6 z06 if you wanted a performer. I believe stability control is non-existent also. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it fully because MR isn't exactly easy to drive. But LQQK at it!!

Yeah i really like the new c7s. And as you mentioned its lack of power for a 40k car doesn't make sense. Compared to the handling of the twins what do you think is better?

BlackJesus 11-16-2015 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bacon_cheese_beer (Post 2452640)
No its plus 15k$

IMO
I wouldnt do it. It can be risky since if that thing breaks down then youll have to deal with expensive ass fix + finding the parts for it.

Do you owe anything on your current car and whats an estimated amount that you invested in your current car?

If you think that your car is worth 25k and you really love the nsx then go for it.

Its one of a kind on the road but you'll have to be able to soak up a ton of costs. Did you by any chance get an insurance quote on that thing lol?

swarb 11-16-2015 02:01 AM

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two different builds just in case...

bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJesus (Post 2452656)
IMO
I wouldnt do it. It can be risky since if that thing breaks down then youll have to deal with expensive ass fix + finding the parts for it.

Do you owe anything on your current car and whats an estimated amount that you invested in your current car?

If you think that your car is worth 25k and you really love the nsx then go for it.

Its one of a kind on the road but you'll have to be able to soak up a ton of costs. Did you by any chance get an insurance quote on that thing lol?

I have probably spent 15k$ in mods for my carand owe leas than 10k$. Didnt get an insurance quote, but you do bring up good points. I really love the NSX, but my frs has been my baby all these years.

EzyBrzy 11-16-2015 02:15 AM

The $15k on top of the trade can almost buy you another twin, or be used for repairs if it breaks down. AAA is awesome for tows btw lol

BlackJesus 11-16-2015 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bacon_cheese_beer (Post 2452659)
I have probably spent 15k$ in mods for my carand owe leas than 10k$. Didnt get an insurance quote, but you do bring up good points. I really love the NSX, but my frs has been my baby all these years.

Ouch. This is a bad deal for you :barf:
Lets just say you owe 10k on loan and hes valuing your car at 25k. Lets say an average frs cost 20k
So thats 15k(He wants) + 10K(you owe) + 10k(money in mods) = 35k that you'll be losing.
Adding the price of the frs youll end up spending 55k on that nsx. Even if you did pay off your loan then the nsx will still end up costing 45k.

If you dont care about losing that much money and want a collectors item then go for it! Ask for ALL OF THE STOCK PARTS <<< $$$$



Ps I understand that Mods doesnt really increase the overall value of a car but this is my opinion based on how much he'll be losing/gaining

Speed2th 11-16-2015 02:45 AM

I was plan to get a nsx instead of my brz. But I don't want to deal a 20 years old car... All seals, bushing, parts can possibly failing. In addition, every miles and damage would really depreciate that collectable car. I end up getting brz instead so I can truly appreciate the fun of driving. It is a nice garage queen if you have a enough money and space for another daily drive

swarb 11-16-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bacon_cheese_beer (Post 2452654)
Yeah i really like the new c7s. And as you mentioned its lack of power for a 40k car doesn't make sense. Compared to the handling of the twins what do you think is better?

NSX by far. But I also didn't push it that hard, maybe 7/10.
Car was on the 15/16 stagger on bridgestone potenza s02(max performance tire). Turn in was amazing and exiting on power was great. Just don't come in the corner too hot or you are in for a handful.

Part of the reason for low power is to have a linear(easy to drive) car that is well balanced and very rewarding if driven smoothly.

swarb 11-16-2015 03:00 AM

I'm sure you are aware of the money pit situation. The thing about the nsx is you can't afford to damage it or drive it 10/10.

Also driving an exotic, people won't leave you alone.
5k maybe, 15k no way, you could throw 15k into your car and be "done"

Atropine 11-16-2015 04:01 AM

Maybe I am wrong to think this...

Non-stock steering wheel on a car that had an Airbag to me usually means the airbag was blown....aka wrecked.

Also cars like this, people tend to fix them under the table and rebuild them w/o insurance getting involved....

Ask me how I know...

So IF you did want this, be wary, and have a mechanic of YOUR choice check it out.

STZ 11-16-2015 04:21 AM

I understand that it's a dream car and all but I'd advise against it.

It's just... too old now. An S2000? Sure. A 23 year old supercar? Probably not the wisest idea.

Ganthrithor 11-16-2015 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Tony (Post 2452624)
Shieet i say go for it, the nsx is also one of my dream car it very reliable. Looks real good cant really go wrong with it. In the future if u do decied you dont like the NA1 you can always sell it out for pretty much the same.price you got it for.and get back in a used 86 for cheap.

I don't know about specific values, but if someone is presenting you with an opportunity to extract most of the value out of a modded car in exchange for a semi-collectible asset that won't depreciate, I'd say that's a very tempting offer provided the car checks out.

I agree-- I don't see how you could go very wrong. I also don't know anything about NSX values though, so it's up to the OP to decide if the trade is fair I guess v0v.

xxBrun0xx 11-16-2015 06:51 AM

If you care about your finances, I'd take the $15k and the NSX. It will appreciate over time, whereas the BRZ will depreciate. Keep the BRZ if you think you'd be paranoid that someone would hit it when you went out, and if this would prevent you from driving it.

Rampage 11-16-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ganthrithor (Post 2452706)
I don't know about specific values, but if someone is presenting you with an opportunity to extract most of the value out of a modded car in exchange for a semi-collectible asset that won't depreciate, I'd say that's a very tempting offer provided the car checks out.

I agree-- I don't see how you could go very wrong. I also don't know anything about NSX values though, so it's up to the OP to decide if the trade is fair I guess v0v.

This is a good point. The NSX will go up in value if it has a clean title, can be returned completely to stock, has a stock color, high quality, paint job and does not go up in miles much more. If you are going to have to use it as your daily then forget it. If it will just be a weekend pleasure car then it is worth looking into. Not many car purchases are "investments" but this could potentially be one if it checks out 100%.

Areas of concern should be the engine replacement, paint quality, mods and car history.

Tcoat 11-16-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xxBrun0xx (Post 2452738)
If you care about your finances, I'd take the $15k and the NSX. It will appreciate over time, whereas the BRZ will depreciate. Keep the BRZ if you think you'd be paranoid that someone would hit it when you went out, and if this would prevent you from driving it.

Ummm the trade was the BRZ and $15 K for the NSX not $15K and the NSX for the BRZ.

The NSX will appreciate, yes. But if used as a DD the value increase will drop dramatically with every single mile driven. This is an often overlooked aspect of a collector car vs a driven car. To gain or even maintain value you have to severely limit the use you actually get out of the car.

Chupacabra 11-16-2015 01:23 PM

Hard pass on this one my friend.

This particular NSX isn't the one you should look for as it's unlikely to appreciate as quickly as a more original, cleaner example.

I think you'd be giving up too much.

BlackJesus 11-16-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2452910)
Ummm the trade was the BRZ and $15 K for the NSX not $15K and the NSX for the BRZ.

The NSX will appreciate, yes. But if used as a DD the value increase will drop dramatically with every single mile driven. This is an often overlooked aspect of a collector car vs a driven car. To gain or even maintain value you have to severely limit the use you actually get out of the car.

Simply put
*OP going to lose atleast 25k + his Brz for a NSX
*If OP is DD the NSX then the value will drop so its going to be hard to enjoy the car
* Old supercars = More Headache + More money. Even if its a honda
*Insurance is going to be a huge factor. Since they are going to value the car at a different price unless you convince them otherwise.
*Its a Gen 1 (91-94) Here is a list of problem with them:
clutch
hoses
water pump/ timing belt
tires
snap ring
climate control
sound system
Average stuff but be prepared since its an older car!
*Value of a gen 1 stays around 25k-35k for a GOOD condition.

In the end its OP choice. If you like it and can afford it then get it. If you cant afford it then dont do it. You already have a great looking FRS with a Supercharger (something that i want but cant afford). Just remember NO LOOKING BACK!

Who8myrice 11-16-2015 01:28 PM

5 speed 1st gen Nsx and out of built car + 15k.
I love Nsx but not this deal.

Guff 11-16-2015 01:37 PM

Hey OP, run the VIN and see if it's been in any wrecks first. These aluminum frame cars will never be the same if they've been in a wreck.

Here's my advice, drive it. You might fall in love with, or you might realize it's not the car for you. Older cars have creaks and rattles everywhere and that's just part of their personality, but it might not be your taste.

Also, figure out your insurance situation. You are going to need to insure it through a collector's insurance company so you can have set value coverage. Regular insurance will value this car at 20k, but with set value, you can set it at a fair market value and have it's value reevaluated every year. The downside here is that you will likely be mileage limited. My good buddy had his Supra insured at $55k, but is limited to 6000 miles a year.

Other than that, I can't say much. If it is financially viable, then it's not a bad choice. Life is far too fleeting to get stuck on the same page. But I suppose filing for bankruptcy is pretty crappy too, so take a long look at your finances.

NyC Zn6 11-16-2015 04:21 PM

I would as my FR-S in my weekend warrior...if you daily the FR-S then nahh.

avishenoy1 11-16-2015 04:54 PM

40k for that NSX is a steal.

I know an NSX owner who frequently gets offers for 60k+, granted his is bone stock and in amazing condition, but the fact that the car is appreciating is huge.

Edit, thought you were gonna pay him 15, if he's paying you 15 plus the NSX then that's an amazing deal. Take the cash and buy a cheap daily.

bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by avishenoy1 (Post 2453221)
40k for that NSX is a steal.

I know an NSX owner who frequently gets offers for 60k+, granted his is bone stock and in amazing condition, but the fact that the car is appreciating is huge.

Edit, thought you were gonna pay him 15, if he's paying you 15 plus the NSX then that's an amazing deal. Take the cash and buy a cheap daily.

No its the other way around. Its my car +15k for the NSX

86Tony 11-16-2015 06:08 PM

Even tho its a 20 year old car. I still think its much more reliable then the 86 a nsx owner will tell you that the motor is complety broken in at 80,000km also you dont have to worry about rust since chasis is aluminum. Id say go for it. When the new nsx comes out i think the car will go up in price if kept well. The main thing about this car is its super reliable finding a new motor is much cheaper then lookin for a fa20 it will hold it value no matter what. Its a green light in my books if the nsx checks out fine

MokSpeed 11-16-2015 06:18 PM

If the NSX checks out do it. If you feel regret later then buy a new FR-S/BRZ.

chaoskaze 11-16-2015 06:36 PM

Trade for a 92 NSX??
 
Err NSX?!!! Dooooo IT!


It's a fun investment.... & 99% will go up in value if it's in decent condition.


But ya like Guff said... Make sure it's never in accident. Have someone really knows about NSX to go look @ it with you. (NSX community is so small, ppl know about them probably knows the owner & what the car been through)

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KR-S 11-16-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2453347)
Err NSX?!!! Dooooo IT!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0"]Shia LaBeouf "Just Do It" Motivational Speech (Original Video) - YouTube[/ame]

bacon_cheese_beer 11-16-2015 07:17 PM

ran the VIN JH4NA1156NT000916 and turns out it was damaged on the passenger side, pretty big hit to where they most likely replaced the entire door, not salvage. but as mentioned above, I don't know what the extent is on the damage as far as Aluminum frame goes. if someone can pull out the pics, I don't know how to without paying for a report.

chaoskaze 11-16-2015 07:40 PM

Trade for a 92 NSX??
 
^ don't get it then. Not worth ur car with all the mods +15 k? Do it right or don't do it.

Unless you just wanna get an NSX no matter what... But with accident like that. The investment aspect of the purchase is gone.


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Tcoat 11-16-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bacon_cheese_beer (Post 2453403)
ran the VIN JH4NA1156NT000916 and turns out it was damaged on the passenger side, pretty big hit to where they most likely replaced the entire door, not salvage. but as mentioned above, I don't know what the extent is on the damage as far as Aluminum frame goes. if someone can pull out the pics, I don't know how to without paying for a report.

Does it say how long ago it was damaged? If recent then here is your chance to test the honesty of the seller. He keeps making a big deal of the fresh paint in the ad so ask him why he got it painted. If he is honest he will tell you about the damage. If he isn't he will give some story. If he tells a story run like the wind. Also be interested to know why it has a newer engine. (there goes the value for matching numbers) Was it also a casualty of the crash that caused the damage?
From what I have seen on the value of these things this deal just seems too good.

KR-S 11-16-2015 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2453474)
Does it say how long ago it was damaged? If recent then here is your chance to test the honesty of the seller. He keeps making a big deal of the fresh paint in the ad so ask him why he got it painted. If he is honest he will tell you about the damage. If he isn't he will give some story. If he tells a story run like the wind. Also be interested to know why it has a newer engine. (there goes the value for matching numbers) Was it also a casualty of the crash that caused the damage?
From what I have seen on the value of these things this deal just seems too good.

I missed that, actually. I can't justify paying $40K for a damaged NSX with a replaced engine on top of that.

Actually, don't do it.


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