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airjonny 11-11-2015 06:17 PM

BRZ patent drawing
 
http://jalopnik.com/these-are-the-pa...-br-1741899142


Could be nothing. Is it common to submit patents for concepts with no shot of production?

Tcoat 11-11-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by airjonny (Post 2448570)
http://jalopnik.com/these-are-the-pa...-br-1741899142


Could be nothing. Is it common to submit patents for concepts with no shot of production?

Yes. I read once that some where around 5% of the patents filed ever get made.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97469

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97473

campy 11-11-2015 06:28 PM

They're probably just filing the patent for their old BRZ STI concept car (the one pictured in the article) so no other company can make a car or a body kit that looks like it. Just a typical corporation protecting their intellectual assets.

Tcoat 11-11-2015 06:29 PM

LOOK
When you guys link these threads can you at least copy and paste the text? Otherwise every one of us that goes to read the fiction gives them another click and perpetuates the issue. They are slow on news now and grasping at straws for every click they can get and I for one do not wish to support them.

kch 11-11-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by airjonny (Post 2448570)
Could be nothing. Is it common to submit patents for concepts with no shot of production?

absolutely common. people patent shit that is physically impossible with today's technology in the hopes that it becomes feasible some day.

airjonny 11-11-2015 07:27 PM

Ok thanks guys. My apologies, I was searching for a jalop article before I made this thread. Forgot that autoguide was the OG post.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 11-11-2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2448573)
Yes. I read once that some where around 5% of the patents filed ever get made.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97469

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97473

Patent hounds or trolls, some companies seriously run a business on this, they make patents for ideas just in a concept phase and go no further just to increase there stock shares and stir interest, and just wait to litigate people for a "stolen" idea and go up them begging for a license fee for less than it would cost to go to court, but in the end litigation is the best answer for the person being trolled.

NOHOME 11-12-2015 11:30 AM

Without the relevant claims, those drawings have no meaning. The written claims at the end of the patent are what patent protection is being asked for.

Packofcrows 11-12-2015 12:11 PM

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Tcoat 11-12-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2449264)
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Hey Pack, what are your thoughts on Jalopnik?

Packofcrows 11-12-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2449350)
Hey Pack, what are your thoughts on Jalopnik?

Its a car entertainment site, but not trustworthy for the most part.


/sniff :burnrubber:

Tcoat 11-12-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2449394)
Its a car entertainment site, but not trustworthy for the most part.


/sniff :burnrubber:

Like Car and Driver, Autoblog, AutoNews and a couple of others that once upon a time were reliable news sites but lost all journalistic integrity someplace along the way in their search for clicks.

jawn 11-12-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2449394)
Its a car entertainment site, but not trustworthy for the most part.


/sniff :burnrubber:

To be fair, in the article they did acknowledge that patent filings are mostly meaningless.

Tcoat 11-12-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2449399)
To be fair, in the article they did acknowledge that patent filings are mostly meaningless.

Yes they did which just begs the question of why they published the article in the first place? Just because the clickbaits did first? Nothing else to write about?
"This, that, the other thing and oh by the way it really doesn't mean much"

jawn 11-12-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2449402)
Yes they did which just begs the question of why they published the article in the first place? Just because the clickbaits did first? Nothing else to write about?
"This, that, the other thing and oh by the way it really doesn't mean much"

It's the nature of how internet media is monetized. You don't get into internet automotive journalism for altruistic reasons. There are no Woodwards or Bernsteins coming out of this crop of internet journalists.

Tcoat 11-12-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2449411)
It's the nature of how internet media is monetized. You don't get into internet automotive journalism for altruistic reasons. There are no Woodwards or Bernsteins coming out of this crop of internet journalists.

Exactly.

jawn 11-12-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2449425)
Exactly.

But what can you do? People either aren't taught or didn't learn to discern or make value judgments on the quality of source materials. We see this all of the time with "my buddy told me..." stories on this forum, and dudebros like GTX.

Tcoat 11-12-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2449430)
But what can you do? People either aren't taught or didn't learn to discern or make value judgments on the quality of source materials. We see this all of the time with "my buddy told me..." stories on this forum, and dudebros like GTX.

My disrespect of internet news site goes back a ways and is not restricted to car sites. I have had internet access at work since 1993 and at home since 1995 and have watched in horror as totally reliable sites morphed into the equivalent to the tabloids that used to be at grocery store checkouts (if they are still there I don't notice then anymore).
Of course the first sites were text only and the info had to have enough importance two warrant posting so it was almost always totally reliable. Then as things picked up you started to see a bit more filler but many of the more worthy sites still sold magazines and charged subscriptions (both for paper and internet access) so they had to ensure the content was of some quality. Then the whole advertising revenue based on number of clicks concept came into being and the whole thing went to hell and has been getting worse ever since. Now you can cross check your facts in 200 different places but still not be sure it is correct in the end.
Old guy internet rant over.

JDsThatGuy 11-12-2015 03:05 PM

first rule of patent law, patent at the highest level that you can. Just because they have a patent doesn't mean they'll ever do anything with it

Packofcrows 11-12-2015 03:25 PM

I think they publish cr@p like that so that if the idea pulls through, they can claim "being the first."

It's like those doomsday fanbois who are always claiming the world ends tomorrow so that if it does, they 'could' receive credit.

I.E. the crazy Yosemite guy from 2012 (movie).

I hate it though, it's not factual in my eyes...or factual enough... like claiming that women drivers are killers behind a killer machine or that Marajeehuwaaanah kills.


https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c4&oe=56C034ED

jawn 11-12-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2449501)
I think they publish cr@p like that so that if the idea pulls through, they can claim "being the first."

It's like those doomsday fanbois who are always claiming the world ends tomorrow so that if it does, they 'could' receive credit.

I.E. the crazy Yosemite guy from 2012 (movie).

I hate it though, it's not factual in my eyes...or factual enough... like claiming that women drivers are killers behind a killer machine or that Marajeehuwaaanah kills.


https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c4&oe=56C034ED

You're overthinking it. Content is evaluated and monetized based on the number of clicks it generates. People are stupid. You can make a lot of money exploiting stupid people for money by posting "hot" news about lowest common denominator interests. The average new car in the US costs around $30K. Most people who read car blogs are car enthusiasts. There are only so many enthusiast cars around $30K. This is why every car website runs the same clickbait articles on 86s, WRXs, Mustangs, Camaros, and Miatas. Most people have the buying power to get into one of these cars, so like it or not, this is where the content will be.

BRZoomTX 11-13-2015 10:18 AM

Its a patent to protect the prototype design. Subaru patents the design of all their prototypes. This is nothing new, and a news site just trying to generate clicks.

stevesnj 11-13-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZoomTX (Post 2450291)
Its a patent to protect the prototype design. Subaru patents the design of all their prototypes. This is nothing new, and a news site just trying to generate clicks.

Or they're dummies and don't know this... :bonk:

Tcoat 11-13-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 2450601)
Or they're dummies and don't know this... :bonk:

Either way it doesn't instill confidence in their credibility.

BRZoomTX 11-13-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 2450601)
Or they're dummies and don't know this... :bonk:

I doubt it. The BRZ STi is such a hot topic lately. More and more click-bait articles being posted on Facebook every day that eventually trickle there way to here and Reddit.

I just wish people would stop believing everything they hear online.


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