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02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 03:42 PM

Is my tire toast?
 
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Just noticed this today, must have been from a pot hole or some debris on the road... No puncture, looks like it's just a chunk of the rubber that's been taken out, drove home about 50 miles and damaged area didn't get bigger...

These are the stock tires... I'm in NJ so was planning on switching over to winter tires mid / end of November.

Does this kind of damage pose any real danger?

Should I bite the bullet and just switch to winter tires now (temperatures right now are low 60's mid 50's as a high and then mid 40's as low... with random spikes of "hot" 70 days and cold sub 40 days)?

Tcoat 10-24-2015 03:44 PM

Get a new one and do is soon. Side wall damage like that is not repairable and could blow at any time. Don't screw around with it.

jawn 10-24-2015 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2430482)
Get a new one and do is soon. Side wall damage like that is not repairable and could blow at any time. Don't screw around with it.

This.

continuecrushing 10-24-2015 03:52 PM

x3

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2430484)
This.

You guys suck... (j/k)

For my knowledge though, what is the real risk here - just that, that area of the tire is now weaker and much more susceptible to damage / failure?

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Also is it too early for winter tires? I keep reading that weather tires typically function best in temperatures under 45 degrees (Fahrenheit) .

I went over to weather.com and here are the average temperatures for the next two weeks:

High: 60.9 F
Low: 41.2 F

The following week for which they only have historical data (Week of Nov. 8th) is around:

High: 56 F
Low: 36 F

jawn 10-24-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2430499)
You guys suck... (j/k)

For my knowledge though, what is the real risk here - just that, that area of the tire is now weaker and much more susceptible to damage / failure?

---

Also is it too early for winter tires? I keep reading that weather tires typically function best in temperatures under 45 degrees (Fahrenheit) .

I went over to weather.com and here are the average temperatures for the next two weeks:

High: 60.9 F
Low: 41.2 F

The following week for which they only have historical data (Week of Nov. 8th) is around:

High: 56 F
Low: 36 F

Yeah, the sidewall is way more likely to fail.

For what it's worth, I'm waiting for the high temps to drop below 50F, which looks like it might be the first or second week of November this year. Ideally, I'd push it off as late as possible (like the day before forecasted snow, provided it isn't freezing overnight), but I have to order the winter tires in, so there has to be a bit of a lead time to account for.

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2430505)
Yeah, the sidewall is way more likely to fail.

For what it's worth, I'm waiting for the high temps to drop below 50F, which looks like it might be the first or second week of November this year. Ideally, I'd push it off as late as possible (like the day before forecasted snow, provided it isn't freezing overnight), but I have to order the winter tires in, so there has to be a bit of a lead time to account for.

Ok, sounds like what I was planning to do is essentially what you are doing so at least I had the right approach...

I might just order the snows and keep the car garaged for a week or two now before putting them on =(

stugray 10-24-2015 04:10 PM

Definitely unfixable.

In fact if you were to take your car to a tire place for them to evaluate, IF they had the wheel off they would not be allowed to put it back on and let you leave with it.

PNW-BRZ 10-24-2015 04:40 PM

I'd get the snows sooner rather than later. This is not like a nail leak, where it's gradual. When this pops most likely sidewall will be under pressure and it will be quick, possibly causing loss of control. Your not only gambling your life, but others as well.

Tcoat 10-24-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2430499)
You guys suck... (j/k)

For my knowledge though, what is the real risk here - just that, that area of the tire is now weaker and much more susceptible to damage / failure?

---

Also is it too early for winter tires? I keep reading that weather tires typically function best in temperatures under 45 degrees (Fahrenheit) .

I went over to weather.com and here are the average temperatures for the next two weeks:

High: 60.9 F
Low: 41.2 F

The following week for which they only have historical data (Week of Nov. 8th) is around:

High: 56 F
Low: 36 F

For the sake of an extra week or so on the winter as opposed to sudden and possibly catastrophic side wall failure just change now.

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PNW-BRZ (Post 2430533)
I'd get the snows sooner rather than later. This is not like a nail leak, where it's gradual. When this pops most likely sidewall will be under pressure and it will be quick, possibly causing loss of control. Your not only gambling your life, but others as well.

Point taken, I think I will look into ordering the winters and installing ASAP.

I went to a shop who didn't seen to think it was that concerning (given the depth which doesn't show well in the picture), but it's probably better to not play with fire...
Better to be safe than sorry.

Packofcrows 10-24-2015 07:53 PM

Junk it. Its done. Safety first yo! Dont let it get worse and damage your rim!

Any sidewall damage is not recomended for repair.

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2430561)
For the sake of an extra week or so on the winter as opposed to sudden and possibly catastrophic side wall failure just change now.

Tcoat you do a long commute right? Do you have any recommendations for snow tires for 50 - 100 mile a day light snow driving?

Since I'm an accountant, I'll probably be working 6 days a week January - March which at 100 miles a day comes out to roughly 7,200 miles (if I were to drive the FR-S every day - which won't be the case as I am going to try bum Honda Pilot / Toyota Corolla off parents when it's doable for them) just going to and from work (which I guess is all I do during those 3 months anyway :lol:)...

Tcoat 10-24-2015 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2430678)
Tcoat you do a long commute right? Do you have any recommendations for snow tires for 50 - 100 mile a day light snow driving?

Since I'm an accountant, I'll probably be working 6 days a week January - March which at 100 miles a day comes out to roughly 7,200 miles (if I were to drive the FR-S every day - which won't be the case as I am going to try bum Honda Pilot / Toyota Corolla off parents when it's doable for them) just going to and from work (which I guess is all I do during those 3 months anyway :lol:)...

Just about any winter tire will work equally well just stay away fro "performance" snow tires. I went with 16/205/55 on steel rimes and they worked well.

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2430703)
Just about any winter tire will work equally well just stay away fro "performance" snow tires. I went with 16/205/55 on steel rimes and they worked well.

Thanks one more question, at what size will I run into the issue of the rim not clearing my calipers (is there a way to check?)?

I'm 99.7% sure I'll be fine with the ones in my cart right now, but was just curious as I've had a few people tell me to make sure.

Tcoat 10-24-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2430772)
Thanks one more question, at what size will I run into the issue of the rim not clearing my calipers (is there a way to check?)?

I'm 99.7% sure I'll be fine with the ones in my cart right now, but was just curious as I've had a few people tell me to make sure.

What are you looking at?

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 11:06 PM

http://m.tirerack.com/tires/TireDeta...S&autoModClar=

Goodyear ultra grip wrt, just trying to see if there was any reason they might not fit

Tcoat 10-24-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2430784)
http://m.tirerack.com/tires/TireDeta...S&autoModClar=

Goodyear ultra grip wrt, just trying to see if there was any reason they might not fit

Those will be perfect.

stevesnj 10-24-2015 11:32 PM

What county in Jersey? Camden Cnty. here

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-24-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 2430801)
What county in Jersey? Camden Cnty. here

Hunterdon (Central)

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-25-2015 07:21 PM

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Still haven't hit submit on my cart yet... Because I'm wondering if I really need the steel wheels, my current stock rims are a bit scraped up as they are...

Other than durability do steel wheels make much of a different for winter driving (added weight / traction?)?

Also I pulled this from the tirerack website for one of the local "recommended installers":

1. Can't I just install mounted/balanced tires from tirerack as you would a spare?

2. Is this saying this particular dealer charges $5 per mounted/balanced tire to install? They quoted me at $20...

Akari 10-25-2015 08:47 PM

Yeah, if you have new wheels/tires then you can just pull the old ones off, put the new ones on and torque your lugs properly. Sounds like that $5/ea is for exactly that service if you don't want to do it yourself.

The wheel itself makes really no noticible difference. Typically I put snow tires on my OEM rims and then summer tires on a better wheel.

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-25-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Akari (Post 2431431)
Yeah, if you have new wheels/tires then you can just pull the old ones off, put the new ones on and torque your lugs properly. Sounds like that $5/ea is for exactly that service if you don't want to do it yourself.

The wheel itself makes really no noticible difference. Typically I put snow tires on my OEM rims and then summer tires on a better wheel.

Thanks, if it seems like I confirm and then re-confirm and re-confirm again everything it's probably because I am (unintentionally)... This car is kind of my crash course in car maintenance / care.

Looks like all that's left for me (for real this time) is to figure out is whether to run stock rims in winter or get steelies... Will probably end up flipping a coin at this rate :bonk:

02.ACCORD.DUDE 10-25-2015 11:13 PM

I put my order in today, ended up going with the 205/55R-16 Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT.

With the steel rims it came out to $782 - but I should be getting a "rebate"* of $110 eventually...

*It's a Goodyear VISA so presumably you can only use the car at Goodyear, not entirely sure what I'd spend the $ on, most likely as an emergency fund I guess in case I get a flat / need a new rim, TPMS, etc.

Thank you everyone for the help, Thursday is going to take forever to get here...

Tcoat 10-30-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2431562)
I put my order in today, ended up going with the 205/55R-16 Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT.

With the steel rims it came out to $782 - but I should be getting a "rebate"* of $110 eventually...

*It's a Goodyear VISA so presumably you can only use the car at Goodyear, not entirely sure what I'd spend the $ on, most likely as an emergency fund I guess in case I get a flat / need a new rim, TPMS, etc.

Thank you everyone for the help, Thursday is going to take forever to get here...

http://m.memegen.com/m4rnf5.jpg

RustySocket 10-30-2015 10:24 PM

This is what happened to me a couple of weeks ago in my truck. Made a nice mess of the rear quarter panel as well.


I'm damn glad I wasn't pulling my travel trailer on the freeway when it blew. BTW, no previous sidewall damage. Once everything is fixed, new tires, and damage will be close to 3500$


http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7gbxxh0o.jpg

Tcoat 10-31-2015 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RustySocket (Post 2437380)
This is what happened to me a couple of weeks ago in my truck. Made a nice mess of the rear quarter panel as well.


I'm damn glad I wasn't pulling my travel trailer on the freeway when it blew. BTW, no previous sidewall damage. Once everything is fixed, new tires, and damage will be close to 3500$


http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7gbxxh0o.jpg

Thanks Rust. I am going to save this pic and your story for the guys that think they can't go just a little further on a damaged tire. I have blown a couple but they were in the pre cellphone/camera days so had no pics.


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