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riironman 10-23-2015 12:23 PM

63,000 and throwout bearing ruined everything
 
I have the extended 5 year 100,000 warranty and they wont cover any of it. the throwout bearing failed and destroyed flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, fork and pilot sleeve . its bull shit. I drive a 1000 miles a week and worried since I have one of the higher mileage cars on here we will see issues coming up. so I have to pay $2530.14 to fix...oh but they will pay for a #$@$% rental car!

Tcoat 10-23-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429471)
I have the extended 5 year 100,000 warranty and they wont cover any of it. the throwout bearing failed and destroyed flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, fork and pilot sleeve . its bull shit. I drive a 1000 miles a week and worried since I have one of the higher mileage cars on here we will see issues coming up. so I have to pay $2530.14 to fix...oh but they will pay for a #$@$% rental car!

All of those (other than the flywheel if it was the only issue) are considered "wear items" and are not covered by warranty. It states it very clearly in the regular warranty but I don't know the wording of the extended. Some dealers have been know to cover it but unfortunately they don't have to.

riironman 10-23-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2429485)
All of those (other than the flywheel if it was the only issue) are considered "wear items" and are not covered by warranty. It states it very clearly in the regular warranty but I don't know the wording of the extended. Some dealers have been know to cover it but unfortunately they don't have to.

yes but I thought the thowout bearing is part of the drivetrain

Tcoat 10-23-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429493)
yes but I thought the thowout bearing is part of the drivetrain

It should be in my opinion but the second they call it a bearing it becomes a "wear" part.
Is yours a 13? I have already gone past your mileage with my 14 and have not had an issue yet but it is such a common problem on here I think it is just a matter of time (unless they changed something for the14 MY).

riironman 10-23-2015 12:40 PM

yes a 13. you have over 63,000?

Tcoat 10-23-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429510)
yes a 13. you have over 63,000?

Not by much but a little. I work in 3 different cities then where I live and spend 14 hours a week just driving from plant to plant.

riironman 10-23-2015 01:07 PM

so far only thing that has failed me is battery, tail lights full of water and the usual oil leak on valve cover. and now this.

raven1231 10-23-2015 01:11 PM

All the reason to upgrade! Sorry to hear it though man.

I never buy extended warranties because the things that actually wear down aren't covered, so, unless you haven something very abnormal happen you're paying out of pocket anyway. Guess that's how they make money though, just the same as any insurance.

Tcoat 10-23-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429560)
so far only thing that has failed me is battery, tail lights full of water and the usual oil leak on valve cover. and now this.

All I have had was a squeaky window and they fixed that right up.

riironman 10-23-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 2429567)
All the reason to upgrade! Sorry to hear it though man.

I never buy extended warranties because the things that actually wear down aren't covered, so, unless you haven something very abnormal happen you're paying out of pocket anyway. Guess that's how they make money though, just the same as any insurance.

but I messed up when Toyota said they had to pull tranny to make sure if they would cover it. if I knew all along I wouldn't of been covered I wouldn't of went to Toyota . it was over 700 just to pull tranny. and they will only put oem parts back in.

raven1231 10-23-2015 01:40 PM

[quote=riironman;2429602]
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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 2429567)
All the reason to upgrade! Sorry to hear it though man.

I never buy extended warranties because the things that actually wear down aren't covered, so, unless you haven something very abnormal happen you're paying out of pocket anyway. Guess that's how they make money though, just the same as any insurance.[/Q

but I messed up when Toyota said they had to pull tranny to make sure if they would cover it. if I knew all along I wouldn't of been covered I wouldn't of went to Toyota . it was over 700 just to pull tranny. and they will only put oem parts back in.

I hear ya man...That's shitty. Would cost you another 700 just to have them put it back too.

Estey 10-23-2015 01:42 PM

[quote=riironman;2429602]
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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 2429567)
All the reason to upgrade! Sorry to hear it though man.

I never buy extended warranties because the things that actually wear down aren't covered, so, unless you haven something very abnormal happen you're paying out of pocket anyway. Guess that's how they make money though, just the same as any insurance.[/Q

but I messed up when Toyota said they had to pull tranny to make sure if they would cover it. if I knew all along I wouldn't of been covered I wouldn't of went to Toyota . it was over 700 just to pull tranny. and they will only put oem parts back in.

Damn, thats terrible :thumbdown: I would look at your extended warranty, and if there are any parts that would be covered under warranty I would take it up with them, and argue the bill.

I remember debating if I should pay for a B.S. diagnostic when my ignition coil failed, but I later found out that it wasnt covered under warranty, so im glad I didnt. I kept on asking them if it would be covered if it turned out to be a bad ignition coil, and they never gave me an answer.

anyways, good luck man! I hope everything turns out for the better

Im at 70,300 miles in my AT, and so far I have only had a failed ignition coil which I replaced myself, but my battery is going too. Ill leave my lights on for a couple minutes while pumping gas, and my car wont start lol

humfrz 10-23-2015 02:20 PM

DANG! .........that sucks .........:mad0260:

May I ask when your car was built ... ??

Do you have any power (SC/TC) mods ...??

Do you track the car ... ??


humfrz

jawn 10-23-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Estey (Post 2429622)
Im at 70,300 miles in my AT, and so far I have only had a failed ignition coil which I replaced myself, but my battery is going too. Ill leave my lights on for a couple minutes while pumping gas, and my car wont start lol

Batteries going bad sounds about right. With as many electronics as cars have these days, we can probably expect this to be the new normal - batteries needing replacement after only a few years.

riironman 10-23-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2429682)
DANG! .........that sucks .........:mad0260:

May I ask when your car was built ... ??

Do you have any power (SC/TC) mods ...??

Do you track the car ... ??


humfrz

no extra power mods . just cosmetics. I bought in December of 2012. I drive about 1000 miles a week.

Tt3Sheppard 10-23-2015 02:57 PM

There is a whole number of threads here about this issue along with the squeaky clutch which I think is related. I'm at 64k and I have been hearing the squeaky clutch so hopefully I will not have the same issue but seems like a matter of time. Toyota needs to recall this shit already.

kevman_101 10-23-2015 03:15 PM

I would trailer it home and install an aftermarket clutch, light weight flywheel and the rest.

Probably cost a ton less too. But for the other parts... that I don`t know how much work and difficult it is.

GotBRZ1691 10-23-2015 03:33 PM

^ +1

Sigh-on-Rice 10-23-2015 03:42 PM

Was there any sign of a problem before it happened? Any weird noise? Was everything normal without any weird noise and it broke all of a sudden?

mav1178 10-23-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429471)
I have the extended 5 year 100,000 warranty and they wont cover any of it.

Not saying Subaru will be better, but their extended warranty covers most wear & tear items.

http://www.subaru.com/owners/resourc...ity/index.html

As is the case with most of these things, you need to read the fine print before you buy.

-alex

Estey 10-23-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2429704)
Batteries going bad sounds about right. With as many electronics as cars have these days, we can probably expect this to be the new normal - batteries needing replacement after only a few years.

Yeah definitely. Its a little sooner than I expected, but its to be expected nonetheless.

Scenic Driver 10-23-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2429507)
I have already gone past your mileage with my 14 and have not had an issue yet but it is such a common problem on here I think it is just a matter of time (unless they changed something for the14 MY).

I just crossed 80k on my 13 and no issues with mine either. I've been contemplating changing the bearing, clutch, etc at 100k before my luck runs out.

Tcoat 10-23-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scenic Driver (Post 2429813)
I just crossed 80k on my 13 and no issues with mine either. I've been contemplating changing the bearing, clutch, etc at 100k before my luck runs out.

That is my loose plan at this point. If I start to hear weird things I may move that up but so far so good.

yaser.salameh 10-23-2015 06:50 PM

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Ok since I'm in the middle of doing a clutch/flywheel/bearing replacement I thought I would chime in. Currently just below 100k miles. Was at the track and throw out bearing decided to melt so I ordered all new parts. Forgot to order new throw out bearing clips since mine melted so waiting on that little part. Attachment 123407Attachment 123408Attachment 123409Attachment 123410Attachment 123411Attachment 123412Attachment 123413

riironman 10-23-2015 07:06 PM

I wonder if the aftermarket high performance last longer than oem on a stock motor

yaser.salameh 10-23-2015 07:17 PM

63,000 and throwout bearing ruined everything
 
Forgot to mention I have the sprinted intercooled supercharger kit for the last 25k ish miles

Rampage 10-23-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429471)
I have the extended 5 year 100,000 warranty and they wont cover any of it. the throwout bearing failed and destroyed flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, fork and pilot sleeve . its bull shit. I drive a 1000 miles a week and worried since I have one of the higher mileage cars on here we will see issues coming up. so I have to pay $2530.14 to fix...oh but they will pay for a #$@$% rental car!

I am just curious. When you stop at a traffic light or stop sign, do you hold the clutch in the whole time you are waiting to go or do you shift to neutral and release the clutch then re-engage when it is time to go? I am not criticizing either method. I am just curious what method you used during the 63K miles you drove.

riironman 10-23-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by yaser.salameh (Post 2429959)
Ok since I'm in the middle of doing a clutch/flywheel/bearing replacement I thought I would chime in. Currently just below 100k miles. Was at the track and throw out bearing decided to melt so I ordered all new parts. Forgot to order new throw out bearing clips since mine melted so waiting on that little part. Attachment 123407Attachment 123408Attachment 123409Attachment 123410Attachment 123411Attachment 123412Attachment 123413

So i guess its common

lupindub 10-23-2015 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2429572)
All I have had was a squeaky window and they fixed that right up.

Yo did that happen only when it was wet or is it always squeaky?

Tcoat 10-23-2015 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lupindub (Post 2430086)
Yo did that happen only when it was wet or is it always squeaky?

Only when wet. I had the "freezing windows" TSBs done and it fixed it right up.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1409711423


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1389643313

Tcoat 10-23-2015 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2430028)
So i guess its common

Very common. Mostly in the 13s but pops up now in then in others as well.

Tcoat 10-23-2015 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by yaser.salameh (Post 2429993)
Forgot to mention I have the sprinted intercooled supercharger kit for the last 25k ish miles

That is sort of good to know actually!

solidONE 10-23-2015 11:40 PM

Mine took a shit at about 27K. Toyota refused to honor warranty.

I know guys with +100K hondas that have had their clutches dumped every stoplight/stop sign since new and the clutches still functioning perfectly. WTF, subaru/scion/toyota, WTF...

Mysta316 10-23-2015 11:53 PM

You have every right to take the car without them finishing the job. You do have to pay for the work they have completed since you authorized them to take it out for a inspection.

My finance guy even told me not to buy the extended warranty knowing that I work on cars for a living. Because it does not really cover anything that will wear out from use. And the normal warranty from my certified pre owned warranty will take care of.

Packofcrows 10-24-2015 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429493)
yes but I thought the thowout bearing is part of the drivetrain

like Tcoatty says, it is a wear item.... but can be fought under 25k. Call Toyota asap and explain. They might be able to cover up to 50%. Depends on rep there.

superleggera 10-24-2015 08:41 AM

$2500 seems insane for what they are replacing.. i know dealers are marked up, but really?

ZionsWrath 10-24-2015 10:50 AM

lmao dude, #@$! dealers. Seriously.

I know a guy that had to pay 2 hours labor for a disconnected coil pack. They wouldnt cover under warranty either because car wasnt dealer serviced so they claimed it was knocked loose by whoever was last under the hood. Even though no one was for 3 months.

Personally I have only had 1 good dealer experience. I steer FAR clear. That money you paying them will get you really nice service at an enthusiast shop. With any parts you want.

And yea, sometimes its better to cut your losses and learn never to go back. Just pay the bill and take it as a lesson learned. Take your "performance" car to a "performance" shop. I learned that by paying $1000 for an interval service on my last car. Which was basically an oil change, air filter, and rotor resurface. But I got the service adviser special 10% discount! lmao

Pat 10-24-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 2429975)
I wonder if the aftermarket high performance last longer than oem on a stock motor

If your engine is stock and you plan on keeping it that way, I'd go with OEM parts.

86Hiro 10-24-2015 06:34 PM

I work for a dealership and can personally tell you that the issues you had, AREN'T covered by ANY warranty except the 3-Year/36k bumper to bumper warranty. After that, your basically screwed. Its sad but true.

strat61caster 10-24-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 2430358)
lmao dude, #@$! dealers. Seriously.

I know a guy that had to pay 2 hours labor for a disconnected coil pack. They wouldnt cover under warranty either because car wasnt dealer serviced so they claimed it was knocked loose by whoever was last under the hood. Even though no one was for 3 months.

wtf I replaced mine in my driveway in an hour.


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