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ravisraval 10-21-2015 05:27 AM

Vibration on hard right turns
 
Not sure what the deal is. I just got all 4 wheels balanced, and I still have a rhythmic vibration that I feel through the steering wheel. Thoughts?

Kuri 10-21-2015 09:43 AM

check to be sure the wheels are properly mounted.

shiumai 10-21-2015 11:07 AM

Do you feel the vibration when going straight or only on hard right turns? are you braking in the turn or off the brakes? Doesn't sound like wheel balancing or mounting to me if you don't feel any vibration except in that particular circumstance. stock wheels and suspension? recent alignment or work done?

stugray 10-21-2015 11:51 AM

Is your car lowered, or do you have overly wide tires/wheels?

mav1178 10-21-2015 03:14 PM

as the responses have suggested, you need to be more specific in order for internet armchair mechanics to be able to diagnose.

totopo 10-21-2015 03:24 PM

how many miles do you have? check your wheel bearings.

JS + BRZ 10-21-2015 03:28 PM

turn harder?

ravisraval 10-21-2015 03:41 PM

Kw v3, rpf1 17x9 245/40 mpss.
Car has just under 80k miles.
Only feel the vibration under hard rights, not when going straight or left . No braking midcorner.
Come to think of it, my mechanic (neal@theracersline) did mention my front passenger wheel bearing was in so so condition.

Kuri 10-21-2015 03:50 PM

That would do it^


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ravisraval 10-21-2015 04:34 PM

Is a wheel bearing something the dealer would replace under warranty, or is it considered a wear item? I have the extended warranty until 125k miles.

mav1178 10-21-2015 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravisraval (Post 2427269)
Is a wheel bearing something the dealer would replace under warranty, or is it considered a wear item? I have the extended warranty until 125k miles.

Your mods will make any warranty claim on wheel bearings sketchy at best. A wheel hub is not that expensive to buy, especially front.

-alex

Ultramaroon 10-21-2015 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravisraval (Post 2427194)
Kw v3, rpf1 17x9 245/40 mpss.
Car has just under 80k miles.
Only feel the vibration under hard rights, not when going straight or left . No braking midcorner.
Come to think of it, my mechanic (neal@theracersline) did mention my front passenger wheel bearing was in so so condition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuri (Post 2427202)
That would do it^

I don't think that's it because the passenger side is unloaded in a right turn. Check for bent wheel or belts slipped in tire. The latter is especially hazardous.

edit: actually, yeah, maybe if the bearing was downright floppy. That's not so-so, more like dangerously failed.

totopo 10-21-2015 04:48 PM

how long is the powertrain covered? Ehh, might as well try a dealer. If it's a subaru USA warranty they get paid pretty well, so may be willing to do it.

mav1178 10-21-2015 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2427290)
how long is the powertrain covered? Ehh, might as well try a dealer. If it's a subaru USA warranty they get paid pretty well, so may be willing to do it.

This is not a powertrain issue. Powertrain would be everything up to the axles, wheel bearings are under bumper-to-bumper warranty.

-alex

mav1178 10-21-2015 05:10 PM

And for the record:

Larger wheels (esp. lower offset wheels) tend to decrease the life of wheel bearings via increased load on them.

-alex

stugray 10-21-2015 05:24 PM

Look for tire rub marks could be right or left side.

totopo 10-21-2015 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2427317)
This is not a powertrain issue. Powertrain would be everything up to the axles, wheel bearings are under bumper-to-bumper warranty.

-alex

Quote:

Powertrain Warranty
This warranty covers repairs needed to
correct defects in materials or
workmanship of any component listed
in the next two columns and supplied
by Scion, subject to the exceptions
indicated under “What Is Not Covered”
on pages 13-14.
Coverage is for 60 months or
60,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Engine
Cylinder block and head and all
internal parts, timing gears and
gaskets, timing chain/belt and cover,
flywheel, valve covers, oil pan, oil
pump, engine mounts, turbocharger
housing and all internal parts, super
charger housing and all internal parts,
engine control computer, water pump,
fuel pump, seals and gaskets.
Transmission and Transaxle
Case and all internal parts, torque
converter, clutch cover, transmission
mounts, transfer case and all internal
parts, engine control computer, seals
and gaskets.
Front-Wheel-Drive System
Final drive housing and all internal
parts, axle shafts, drive shafts,
constant velocity joints, front hub and
bearings, seals and gaskets.
Rear-Wheel-Drive System
Axle housing and all internal parts,
propeller shafts, U-joints, axle shafts,
drive shafts, bearings, supports, seals
and gaskets.
https://www.scion.com/cm-pdf/warranty/2013/fr-s.pdf

of course:
Quote:

WHAT IS NOT COVERED
This warranty does not cover damage
or failures resulting directly or
indirectly from any of the following:
>
Fire, accidents or theft
>
Abuse or negligence
>
Misuse — for example, racing or
overloading
>
Improper repairs
>
Alteration or tampering, including
installation of non-Scion Authorized
Accessories
>
Lack of or improper maintenance,
including use of fluids other than
those specified in the
Owner’s
Manual
>
Installation of non-Scion Authorized
Parts
>
Airborne chemicals, tree sap, road
debris (including stone chips), rail
dust, salt, hail, floods, wind storms,
lightning and other environmental
conditions
>
Water contamination
so OP: go look to see what your extended warranty covers. doesn't hurt to try, the dealer gets paid by scion so they may not care.

mav1178 10-21-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2427540)

Front wheel bearings are not covered under the powertrain warranty.

Rear wheel bearings are covered under the powertrain warranty.

Given that OP has issues with the front passenger wheel bearing... yeah, it's not going to happen if that is the cause of the vibration and will be subject to the regular (or extended) warranty. And given the mods, they will deny it.

-alex

Ultramaroon 10-21-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2427557)
Front wheel bearings are not covered under the powertrain warranty.

Rear wheel bearings are covered under the powertrain warranty.

Given that OP has issues with the front passenger wheel bearing... yeah, it's not going to happen if that is the cause of the vibration and will be subject to the regular (or extended) warranty. And given the mods, they will deny it.

-alex

Meh. It's just a wheel bearing.

Kuri 10-22-2015 10:33 AM

even so. It's not that hard to remove the front hub. At least it's not awd with the axle in the way


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