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Hachiroku 02-16-2011 04:15 PM

New Subaru 216a / FT-86 Spy Photos Reveals Hatchback Coupe
 
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It's been a while since we've seen a test car for the new Toyota/Subaru coupe, but a new mule has just surfaced here in the United States and for the first time ever – we can confirm its hatchback configuration!

Look for the Subaru version of the FT-86 to debut at the Geneva Motor Show early next month!


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cyde01 02-16-2011 04:18 PM

best news i've heard in a while! please please please be a hatchback!!!!!!

Dark 02-16-2011 04:34 PM

What I see is dual exit exhaust.

DantKR 02-16-2011 04:44 PM

Is that dual exhaust or just dual pipes? Or is it just the same thing?

4agze 02-16-2011 04:46 PM

Cant wait for Geneva Motor Show lots of good stuff coming out

Dark 02-16-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 26401)
Is that dual exhaust or just dual pipes? Or is it just the same thing?

I believe that what we see is single exhaust with 2 exits.

ft86cbx 02-16-2011 05:03 PM

Perhaps that's how they'll separate the Subaru and Toyota models. Subaru gets hatch and Toyota gets saloon. It could be the most distinguishing features outside the front end branding (headlights, grill, badge etc)

matadormi5 02-16-2011 05:09 PM

This is great news.

I'm curious to why it still looks so much like the old monster mule made of old impreza and legacy parts.
Being so close to production, don't manufacturers usually move onto a closer-to-production test car?

Maybe they knew what it was going to look like for all this time. Or, more likely, they're still just testing components.

Franisco 02-16-2011 05:46 PM

1: I really hope its a hatch
2: This doesn't look like a hatch at all
3: This is still a mule..so its probably not even close to what its going to be

cyde01 02-16-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 26404)
Perhaps that's how they'll separate the Subaru and Toyota models. Subaru gets hatch and Toyota gets coupe.

yeah this would be an intriguing idea!

OldSkoolToys 02-16-2011 06:02 PM

That would suck is Subbie got the hatch and Toyota got the coupe...

I want a toyota hatch, QQ

NESW20 02-16-2011 06:13 PM

that's a trunk, not a hatch.

djohnson 02-16-2011 06:27 PM

Sooooooo.... a Subaru mule in the states... indication that regardless of whether the states get Toyota or Scion, the Suby will be available stateside? one can only hope :happyanim:

iff2mastamatt 02-16-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djohnson (Post 26413)
Sooooooo.... a Subaru mule in the states... indication that regardless of whether the states get Toyota or Scion, the Suby will be available stateside? one can only hope :happyanim:

Yup, we all want it. The hatch looks more practical too.

70NYD 02-16-2011 07:00 PM

They might have just left the moldings/striping of the rear window, so it might not be a hatch just cus there is a gap around the rear window. That being said it does look like the rear window comes up with the boot so who knows :D
Purely for strength vs weight I'd prefer a coupe

kiya 02-16-2011 07:50 PM

Is there firm proof yet that the Toyo version will actually be Scion badged?

Also, in the comments people are talking about a 2013 model, it got pushed back AGAIN?

SUB-FT86 02-16-2011 08:24 PM

I have a feeling the subaru version will be quirky and unnatractive.

ryun84 02-16-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 26418)
I have a feeling the subaru version will be quirky and unnatractive.

Which is exactly what I like about Subarus. Just as long as the car isn't HIDEOUS!

cyde01 02-16-2011 08:44 PM

if the subie's a hatch and unattractive, maybe you could bolt on the jdm toyota front end :bellyroll:

matadormi5 02-16-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djohnson (Post 26413)
Sooooooo.... a Subaru mule in the states... indication that regardless of whether the states get Toyota or Scion, the Suby will be available stateside? one can only hope :happyanim:

I hope it means the car comes stateside.

But it isn't definitive just b/c they're testing it here. The VW Scirocco was tested in the states but those b@stards didn't bring it over.

Dark 02-16-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 26418)
I have a feeling the subaru version will be quirky and unnatractive.

That's what makes a Subaru Subaru, uniqueness. Like our buddy said, as long as it's not ugly, I can accept that.

SUB-FT86 02-16-2011 10:01 PM

Yeah I honestly think Subaru execs despise good looking cars. I've never seen a Subie that makes me go "WOW!!!" that's a gorgeous looking car. I believe Scion/Toyota will be the sleek,sexy, low slunger that will make me go WOW!!!

Sleek/Sharp/Low slung>>>Quirky.

RRnold 02-16-2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franisco (Post 26407)
2: This doesn't look like a hatch at all
3: This is still a mule..so its probably not even close to what its going to be

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 26412)
that's a trunk, not a hatch.

+1 it looks like a trunk!

I hope there are two flavors available from Subie and Toyota!

Matador 02-17-2011 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 26400)
What I see is dual exit exhaust.

:word:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 26423)
Yeah I honestly think Subaru execs despise good looking cars. I've never seen a Subie that makes me go "WOW!!!" that's a gorgeous looking car. I believe Scion/Toyota will be the sleek,sexy, low slunger that will make me go WOW!!!

Sleek/Sharp/Low slung>>>Quirky.

a) They aren't going to be that much different

b) guys FFS, it's still a test mule with a hacked together body.

Dimman 02-17-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 26420)
if the subie's a hatch and unattractive, maybe you could bolt on the jdm toyota front end :bellyroll:

SilEighty-style? Could be interesting. Who will be first with a frankenstein?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 26423)
Yeah I honestly think Subaru execs despise good looking cars. I've never seen a Subie that makes me go "WOW!!!" that's a gorgeous looking car. I believe Scion/Toyota will be the sleek,sexy, low slunger that will make me go WOW!!!

Sleek/Sharp/Low slung>>>Quirky.

I really think the previous generation Legacy was a really good-looking sedan without the quirkiness. This pic's not the best as they look sleeker and sharper in real life...

http://www.speedsportlife.com/photop..._FrontSide.jpg

NESW20 02-17-2011 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiya (Post 26417)
Is there firm proof yet that the Toyo version will actually be Scion badged?

Also, in the comments people are talking about a 2013 model, it got pushed back AGAIN?

NO. LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE. YOU'VE BROKEN MY CAPS LOCK KEY AND NOW I HAVE TO YELL AT YOU. THERE IS NO PROOF OF ANY KIND, ANYWHERE ON HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE INTERNET ABOUT IT BEING A SCION.

there is also no reason to believe that it has been pushed back to 2013. just wait a couple weeks until Geneva, and i'm sure we'll have at least a little bit more information.

DantKR 02-17-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 26425)
+1 it looks like a trunk!

I hope there are two flavors available from Subie and Toyota!

+2

linkwpc 02-17-2011 10:10 AM

Looking good! I want the subie one NOW!

DantKR 02-17-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkwpc (Post 26447)
Looking good! I want the subie one NOW!

Still looks like a mule to me. Unless you have better imagination than I do :P

linkwpc 02-17-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 26450)
Still looks like a mule to me. Unless you have better imagination than I do :P

Let hope I do :D

Aki 02-17-2011 05:15 PM

This does NOT prove it's a hatch.

Plus, even the mule isn't a hatch. If you look closely, the mule is simply a shortened Subaru Impreza sedan. Same exact tail lights, same C-pillar, same rear windows.

People also aren't understanding the point of a mule. It's to test the chassis of the car while borrowing from the parts bin externally, in order to not reveal the design of the car. If you're going to go by the mule, then the Subaru version is going to be a shortened sedan... which it won't be.

My bet is still on it being a coupe.

DantKR 02-17-2011 05:19 PM

I still think it's funny that people think it looks like a hatch. I don't think it's possible w/ the angle of the truck and rear windshield that it would have any of opening like a hatch.

enc0re 02-17-2011 07:36 PM

That's no hatch. Look at the left hand corner of the trunk touching the rear window section. You can see the glass through the gap in the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel.

But if Subaru were to get a hatch, and Toyota a coupe, I'd be in a real dilemma.

NESW20 02-17-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aki (Post 26468)
This does NOT prove it's a hatch.

Plus, even the mule isn't a hatch. If you look closely, the mule is simply a shortened Subaru Impreza sedan. Same exact tail lights, same C-pillar, same rear windows.

People also aren't understanding the point of a mule. It's to test the chassis of the car while borrowing from the parts bin externally, in order to not reveal the design of the car. If you're going to go by the mule, then the Subaru version is going to be a shortened sedan... which it won't be.

My bet is still on it being a coupe.

thank you. :clap: :respekt::thumbup:

Matador 02-17-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 26450)
Still looks like a mule to me. Unless you have better imagination than I do :P


http://sidowsky83.com/images/donkey_shrek.jpg

:bellyroll:

Jordo! 02-18-2011 04:26 AM

Are these even new pictures...?

Mouse 02-18-2011 11:13 AM

To me the mule kinda looks like a Corrado.

DantKR 02-18-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 26506)
Are these even new pictures...?

They're new as it's just showed up in the US for testing I think. But the mule itself looks exactly the same.

fernan2 02-18-2011 03:29 PM

the thread it self is stupid, and thats NOT a hatch. :)

DantKR 02-18-2011 03:31 PM

Where in PR are you? I have family in guaynabo.


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