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Cubix 10-11-2015 06:39 PM

FR-S hits a Charger and runs
 
VIDEO

Saw this posted on Reddit. Charger gets side swiped by a black BRZ and flees.

Fastbrew 10-11-2015 06:56 PM

That Charger sped up to trap the other car. Not saying passing on the inside is right. Just saying.

Veloist 10-11-2015 06:58 PM

That's an FR-S

kberkel 10-11-2015 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 2417037)
That's an FR-S

Word, undeserved subaru hate :D

Quote:

That Charger sped up to trap the other car. Not saying passing on the inside is right. Just saying.
Good catch, lame thing to do. Would've been tight either way!

Fastbrew 10-11-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kberkel (Post 2417038)
Word, undeserved subaru hate :D


Good catch, lame thing to do. Would've been tight either way!

Not if he would have braked instead of speeding up!

People seem to forget that road driving is not about egos, who is right and who is wrong, who is the fastest - it is about risk management.

initialc 10-11-2015 07:22 PM

dunno if he fled.. wish more people who got in accidents on the highway would pull over to the shoulder or next available offramp instead of blocking traffic for everyone else. they probably also hit that civic

jdmblood 10-11-2015 07:23 PM

Damn what kind of music is that though?

murdoc 10-11-2015 07:37 PM

I'll never understand how people run into other cars on the highway...everyone is going the same damn direction.

Then again I'm one of those people who doesn't tailgate, which will piss people behind you off since they really need to get 15 yards closer to their destination RIGHT NOW.

olsonpg 10-11-2015 08:05 PM

This is what happens when two assholes meet on a highway.

ZOMFGAARON 10-11-2015 08:24 PM

The real question I have here is: is the guy in the charger really handicap?


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gravitylover 10-11-2015 08:32 PM

I don't think the Charger sped up to trap the other guy I think he was giving it a little kick to get out ahead and then out of the way. I know I won't jump on the brakes to move to the middle lane and tuck in behind a slower car if I'm otherwise passing the cars in the middle lane to let a faster car go by.

Dave-ROR 10-11-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastbrew (Post 2417035)
That Charger sped up to trap the other car. Not saying passing on the inside is right. Just saying.

I agree but it likely wouldn't have been much clearance if any even if he didn't. The FR-S was clearly weaving in and out and that was a dumb pass attempt to make.

Dave-ROR 10-11-2015 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by initialc (Post 2417043)
dunno if he fled.. wish more people who got in accidents on the highway would pull over to the shoulder or next available offramp instead of blocking traffic for everyone else. they probably also hit that civic

Not that quickly they wouldn't. The chances of that charger making it off are very unlikely. He would have slowed and pulled to the shoulder of the interstate not darted off the road like that. He ran, that's pretty obvious.

jawn 10-11-2015 08:39 PM

RIP speakers.

Fastbrew 10-11-2015 08:43 PM

https://youtu.be/T7YcQ5wh4Ds?t=240

I miss George.

why? 10-11-2015 08:50 PM

has to be more to the story than that. Maybe if the guy didn't hog the left lane he would have seen the idiot driving behind him.

Fastbrew 10-11-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2417093)
I agree but it likely wouldn't have been much clearance if any even if he didn't. The FR-S was clearly weaving in and out and that was a dumb pass attempt to make.

Oh no doubt it was a dumb move. I am just saying that the charger had some defensive options that were missed and it appears as if he actually accelerated into danger. Old motorcycle rule - never accelerate into danger.

Dave-ROR 10-11-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 2417105)
has to be more to the story than that. Maybe if the guy didn't hog the left lane he would have seen the idiot driving behind him.

He was actively passing cars when this happened. He should have been in the left lane. The moron in the FR-S simply should have stayed behind him another 10 seconds and then could have passed without an issue.

The most fault we can put on the charger driver is that it appears that he sped up, although the engine noise might be from the BRZ so it's hard to say how much if any he really sped up. I think he did a little, but not enough to make a difference. I certainly wouldn't think the moron would have made that move so I wouldn't have slammed on my brakes if I were that charger driver.

Not that I'd ever be a charger driver, but still.


Watching the video again and covering most of the screen except for the dashed centerline.. I actually don't think the charger sped up at all now.

extrashaky 10-11-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmblood (Post 2417045)
Damn what kind of music is that though?

Music? I thought the guy had bad gas.

The guy claims in the YouTube comments that he had the cruise control set, but to me it looked like he was speeding up between cars and slowing down when he came alongside other cars in the right lane. I'm not convinced the Charger driver wasn't being a tool.

track junkie 10-11-2015 09:11 PM

The FRS driver must be drunk, probably why he fled. He had terrible judgment and no coordination.

Dave-ROR 10-11-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2417128)
Music? I thought the guy had bad gas.

The guy claims in the YouTube comments that he had the cruise control set, but to me it looked like he was speeding up between cars and slowing down when he came alongside other cars in the right lane. I'm not convinced the Charger driver wasn't being a tool.



Try covering everything on your monitor except where the white lines meet the hood. Minus a couple of sections where the broken line changes, it really looks like he had CC on. Turn off the volume as well to avoid the FR-S engine note increase.

totopo 10-12-2015 01:52 AM

Dude, even if he did speed up... The proper response is to ram them????

If you change lanes and there is an incident, you are always the one at fault. Period.

Then a hit and run????!!!?? That's completely reprehensible. Also an automatic misdemeanor. I hope he got a shot of the license plate and they charge that punk.

What's with all the people defending the fr-s? Just because someone owns the same car with you they are now saints and every one else is a douche? Give me a break. If it was the other way around no one would be defending anything.

Tcoat 10-12-2015 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
Dude, even if he did speed up... The proper response is to ram them????

If you change lanes and there is an incident, you are always the one at fault. Period.

Then a hit and run????!!!?? That's completely reprehensible. Also an automatic misdemeanor. I hope he got a shot of the license plate and they charge that punk.

What's with all the people defending the fr-s? Just because someone owns the same car with you they are now saints and every one else is a douche? Give me a break. If it was the other way around no one would be defending anything.

This^^^^

There is no doubt at who screwed up here and it was not the Charger.

Packofcrows 10-12-2015 02:28 AM

That bass though!~


Owner should edit the vid or least listen to it again. Think I hear a phone number?


...just saying.

Fastbrew 10-12-2015 02:48 AM

This is as good a place as any to bring up passing lane habits in the US - we suck at it. Especially when compared to Germany, Switzerland, GB. I have driven in all of these countries and I can report back - we really suck at utilizing the passing lane correctly.

Here is the proper use.

1) Don't stay in it.
2) Get out of it as soon as possible
3) If you see someone coming up fast behind you - speed up or slow down but get out of the way. Don't start a passing move if someone is going to be on your ass. - Basically - help a bro out and don't make them brake.
4) Flashing your brights is not rude although in the states I use my left turn indicator. It's a way of saying please move over.

Many US drivers would be pulled over and given tickets for their driving habits in other countries.

I am really looking forward to many US drivers embracing autonomous cars in the hope that it will pull them all over to the right.

Rampage 10-12-2015 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastbrew (Post 2417375)
This is as good a place as any to bring up passing lane habits in the US - we suck at it. Especially when compared to Germany, Switzerland, GB. I have driven in all of these countries and I can report back - we really suck at utilizing the passing lane correctly.

Here is the proper use.

1) Don't stay in it.
2) Get out of it as soon as possible
3) If you see someone coming up fast behind you - speed up or slow down but get out of the way. Don't start a passing move if someone is going to be on your ass. - Basically - help a bro out and don't make them brake.
4) Flashing your brights is not rude although in the states I use my left turn indicator. It's a way of saying please move over.

Many US drivers would be pulled over and given tickets for their driving habits in other countries.

I am really looking forward to many US drivers embracing autonomous cars in the hope that it will pull them all over to the right.

Incredibly stupid move by the FR-S driver.

The guy in the Charger is obviously a left lane camper. He had plenty of room to move to the right lane in between cars but then that would have required him to check his mirrors and actually use his turn signal.

Who knows how long that FR-S was behind him in the left lane wanting around before he decided to make that ill advised move? Honestly, I kind of hope that they do not track down the Scion owner and the guy that posted the video has to pay for the damage himself. IMO they were both in the wrong. Most states in the US do have laws that say you must move to the right when possible and allow faster traffic to pass on the left no matter how fast you are going.

Braces 10-12-2015 08:24 AM

[QUOTE=Rampage;2417Most states in the US do have laws that say you must move to the right when possible and allow faster traffic to pass on the left no matter how fast you are going.[/QUOTE]


What about the left lane HOV lane during non HOV hours. If someone speeds up to you in the HOV lane ... Are you supposed to move to the right? I'm talking about the crazy state of Arizona where people move in and out of the HOV constantly.

DarkSunrise 10-12-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastbrew (Post 2417040)
People seem to forget that road driving is not about egos, who is right and who is wrong, who is the fastest - it is about risk management.

Very true - someone should tell the FR-S driver that! :D

It's never worth risking a crash to pass another car on the highway. I've even seen idiots drive on shoulders to make passes - stupid life decisions. But I've also seen slow drivers camp in the left lane and create miles of traffic behind them. Both sides need to try harder to be less asshole-ish, and work with other drivers on the road, not try to thwart them.

Some people don't seem to get that we live in a society. I've seen some of the most anti-social behavior by people on the highway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by murdoc (Post 2417053)
I'll never understand how people run into other cars on the highway...everyone is going the same damn direction.

:clap:

DJCarbine 10-12-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 2417411)
Honestly, I kind of hope that they do not track down the Scion owner and the guy that posted the video has to pay for the damage himself.

Really? Property damage and risk of personal injury are warranted for camping the left lane? Maybe next time the frs driver should just ram people in the back to make them get out of the way :iono:

Who am I kidding, the frs driver would have made it but the torque dip screwed him over. All hail the superior logic and skills of mystery frs driver who broadsided the challenger, it's clearly the cars fault.

Lorico 10-12-2015 08:36 AM

The way I see it. It's 2 assholes on the road. One with a camera and handicap plates the other Normal young asshole.

The idiot with the handicap plates shouldn't have been on the left hand lane and should have moved over if they see people tailing. Just for courtesy. Ofcourse he didn't which caused the FRS owner to try to over take. Handicap guy tries to trap him and BAM!! Handicap man needs to be on the handicap lane (RH side)

I HATE slow ass drivers in the left. Hope he learns his lesson

DJCarbine 10-12-2015 08:45 AM

Youtube comments about people with handicaps shouldn't be in the left lane.... that's not from this forum is it? It's not like he is running down the highway, he is in a car. Handicaps have nothing to do with this.

:edit

Nevermind, sigh.

Dadhawk 10-12-2015 08:46 AM

Actually, not sure the Charger speeds up, it may be an illusion based on it passing the car in the other lane. If you watch the lines instead they remain pretty steady in terms of how quickly they approach.

murdoc 10-12-2015 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorico (Post 2417442)
The way I see it. It's 2 assholes on the road. One with a camera and handicap plates the other Normal young asshole.

The idiot with the handicap plates shouldn't have been on the left hand lane and should have moved over if they see people tailing. Just for courtesy. Ofcourse he didn't which caused the FRS owner to try to over take. Handicap guy tries to trap him and BAM!! Handicap man needs to be on the handicap lane (RH side)

I HATE slow ass drivers in the left. Hope he learns his lesson

The charger had just passed one car and was about to pass a second...

Dave-ROR 10-12-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorico (Post 2417442)
The way I see it. It's 2 assholes on the road. One with a camera and handicap plates the other Normal young asshole.

The idiot with the handicap plates shouldn't have been on the left hand lane and should have moved over if they see people tailing. Just for courtesy. Ofcourse he didn't which caused the FRS owner to try to over take. Handicap guy tries to trap him and BAM!! Handicap man needs to be on the handicap lane (RH side)

I HATE slow ass drivers in the left. Hope he learns his lesson

No way was the frs moron behind him for long. There was a good stretch before the incident where the charger was camping in the left lane and there was no one on the right. No one who would have tried that maneuver would have just sat there during that stretch. He would have passed then instead. Also, it appears the charger was speeding hence he passed multiple cars himself so its unlikely that he was a "slow ass driver" camping in the left lane.

I switch to the right after passing myself, unless I don't see anyone about to pass my and there is a slower moving vehicle in the right lane that ill have to pass in 30 seconds or less. Not worth the effort to weave back and forth in that case. And he passed the second one in what, 10 seconds?

Handicap drivers can't be in the left? Are you fucking kidding me? Also, do what I said before, the charger did NOT speed up to block.

Dave-ROR 10-12-2015 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2417448)
Actually, not sure the Charger speeds up, it may be an illusion based on it passing the car in the other lane. If you watch the lines instead they remain pretty steady in terms of how quickly they approach.

Yeah, the visual illusion combined with FRS engine noise tricked me at first also. After blocking everything to examine it I'm 99.999% sure that he didn't speed up at all.

Dave-ROR 10-12-2015 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 2417445)
Youtube comments about people with handicaps shouldn't be in the left lane.... that's not from this forum is it? It's not like he is running down the highway, he is in a car. Handicaps have nothing to do with this.

:edit

Nevermind, sigh.

Those are clearly from the moron lorico. I wonder if this charger is in Ontario. Maybe lorico is the moron in the video.

extrashaky 10-12-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
Dude, even if he did speed up... The proper response is to ram them????

Please quote the post where someone said the proper response was to ram the Charger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
If you change lanes and there is an incident, you are always the one at fault. Period.

Please quote the post where someone said the FR-S driver wasn't at fault.

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
Then a hit and run????!!!?? That's completely reprehensible.

Please quote the post where someone said it wasn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
What's with all the people defending the fr-s?

Please quote the post where someone defended his actions. Keep in mind that pointing out that the other driver may have been behaving immaturely is not an attempt to excuse the FR-S driver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
Just because someone owns the same car with you they are now saints and every one else is a douche?

Please quote the post that says that FR-S drivers are saints, or that everyone else is a douche.

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
Give me a break.

Please explain why you think you need a break, when you're the one accusing people on this board of saying things they didn't say.

Celica00 10-12-2015 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totopo (Post 2417352)
Dude, even if he did speed up... The proper response is to ram them????

If you change lanes and there is an incident, you are always the one at fault. Period.

Then a hit and run????!!!?? That's completely reprehensible. Also an automatic misdemeanor. I hope he got a shot of the license plate and they charge that punk.

What's with all the people defending the fr-s? Just because someone owns the same car with you they are now saints and every one else is a douche? Give me a break. If it was the other way around no one would be defending anything.



I hate that I agree w/ you. But the charger was dedicated to his lane. The frs's burden is to get in that lane w/o affect anyone already dedicated to it.


**** move from the charger but retarded response from the frs.


edit: since when are we censoring lol

Dave-ROR 10-12-2015 10:20 AM

Video was removed, probably due to asshat comments from members of this forum.

Lorico 10-12-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2417473)
Those are clearly from the moron lorico. I wonder if this charger is in Ontario. Maybe lorico is the moron in the video.

No those comments aren't mine.

Comments like these shouldn't be coming from a moderator. Now who is moderating you?


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