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Rifle 10-08-2015 12:06 AM

1320Performance UEL Catless Header - Partial Review
 
So this is a partial review of the 1320 Header, as I do not have access to a dyno to test the true 'performance' of this header.

Let's start with price.

For $349, this makes it one of the cheapest, if not, the cheapest header available on the market. When I picked this up today from my group buy, this is what I received.

http://i.imgur.com/oNEX8zZ.jpg

The gaskets are grimspeeds, which I purchased externally.

Let's take a closer at the build quality.

http://i.imgur.com/DVGdBcU.jpg

For those of you who will ask, PLM overpipe/Berk Catted FP.

http://i.imgur.com/c0cqXKJ.jpg

Next up, merge collector.

http://i.imgur.com/xrpQrZA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jhP3CIa.jpg

Honestly, looks better then a few 'high end' headers I've seen/looked into.

Here's the flanges:

http://i.imgur.com/CHGSvdz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fsTJbUE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i37VAgy.jpg

and the Flex Pipe and the Welds:

http://i.imgur.com/yqef1sj.jpg


So it looks pretty good, but how about the install?

My car hit 2500 miles today, has seen one rain, and therefore, I used no PB blaster - however, 5k+, make sure you soak you exhaust bolts. Incase you wondered what 2500 miles looks like without the stock header on,

http://i.imgur.com/rma3lSS.jpg

Pretty straight forward install. The runners are ran close together and since it's UEL, they run over top two of the bolts, center bolt on each mount.

Driver side,
http://i.imgur.com/fMGcnuI.jpg

Passenger side,
http://i.imgur.com/p0Qz8qN.jpg

......

And installed!

http://i.imgur.com/uVMPvTB.jpg


Overall, I'm highly satisfied with the results of this header and would recommend it without any performance based results.

If anyone in the DMV area has a dyno that can run it for science, let me know!

I need to do a proper exhaust video, but I'm sure people want to hear it... So.

1320Header, PLM Overpipe, Berked Catted FP, Invidia N1, Moto-East stage 2 93 Oct Tune
And the rattle you hear in this video is a leak against the block..
https://instagram.com/p/8jsg0nxImV/


Here's a small exhaust video of the 1320 UEL with an Invidia N1. Cold start/2.5K/4K/6k/turn off.

Was afraid the neighbors would kill me, so no launch control or red line. I can do those another day when I'm not at home!

[ame]http://youtu.be/1Cwev4GZGPo[/ame]

1320uel, PLM overpipe, Berk Catted Front Pipe, Invidia N1 Catback - my header has a small exhaust leak, so if you think you hear it, ignore it! Getting it swapped soon enough.'

Swapped out! Source of the leak:
http://i.imgur.com/qzC5FJn.jpg

dentalprodigy 10-09-2015 09:19 AM

Looks great. Would love an youtube vid once you get the chance. Been considering this.

WhiteFRS69 10-09-2015 09:55 AM

please post a sound clip!

looks like a solid piece


edit:
saw the Instagram link, sounds good!

Timmy_Jones 10-09-2015 09:57 AM

Here they come! I can hear them! Everyone is suddenly a professional welder and going to compliment/critique the welds!

Looks like a nice piece, looking forward to the before and after dyno.

raven1231 10-09-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 2415033)
Here they come! I can hear them! Everyone is suddenly a professional welder and going to compliment/critique the welds!

Looks like a nice piece, looking forward to the before and after dyno.

And the collector bro

Rifle 10-09-2015 11:03 AM

Lol. So far, I love it. I'm about to leave for work shortly, let's see if I can take a cold-start video without waking up the neighborhood... unlikely..

jawn 10-09-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2413453)
If anyone in the DMV area has a dyno that can run it for science, let me know!

@ptuning is having a dyno day tomorrow - you may want to give them a call.

https://www.facebook.com/PTUNING/pho...3029821196269/

350matt 10-09-2015 12:35 PM

pulling the O2 sensor out of the exhaust stream with that right angled adapter seems very odd to me
I wouldn't run that if it was me
any reason why the sensor can't screw in normally?

LOLS2K 10-09-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350matt (Post 2415239)
pulling the O2 sensor out of the exhaust stream with that right angled adapter seems very odd to me
I wouldn't run that if it was me
any reason why the sensor can't screw in normally?

It's a mechanical CEL eliminator. Some screw in "normally" and others have right angles and other funky angles depending on application. I have also seen them used for clearance reasons.

ryoma 10-09-2015 03:13 PM

does that o2 sensor elbow actually work in eliminating the CEL? if it does, I'm getting this header right now lol. only reason I'm staying away from headers is because I don't want to get a tune with it at this moment.

Rifle 10-10-2015 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoma (Post 2415529)
does that o2 sensor elbow actually work in eliminating the CEL? if it does, I'm getting this header right now lol. only reason I'm staying away from headers is because I don't want to get a tune with it at this moment.

With a tune, got a CEL. My tuner forgot to turn it off. I did not use the Supplied "cap", and hooked up both o2 sensors.


Since install, I have experienced a small exhaust leak, but am unable to pinpoint the location of such. We have since installed a second header into another car with no leak present. I am in the process of swapping out my header (1320 has pretty good customer service - and so does my group buy guy), and once I do so and reinstall the header, I will reconfirm if it was the header or my additional pieces leaking, however, that won't be until Wednesday or Thursday. 😑

vien 10-10-2015 01:12 PM

Does the cell cause any issues with performance at all or just a annoyance?

Respect BRZ 10-10-2015 01:16 PM

So this group buy the op spoke of... Where do we get in on it?

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raven1231 10-10-2015 01:22 PM

it's over

Respect BRZ 10-10-2015 01:24 PM

Someone needs to get another one going... Not it. But I will definitely be able to get in on it.

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Rifle 10-10-2015 01:44 PM

Added YouTube video.

Rifle 10-10-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vien (Post 2416185)
Does the cell cause any issues with performance at all or just a annoyance?

Annoyance, makes cruise control not work. I have an ECUTek so I can just clear the code though.

vien 10-10-2015 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2416215)
Annoyance, makes cruise control not work. I have an ECUTek so I can just clear the code though.

I see well that sucks, but besides the cruise anything else?

Rifle 10-10-2015 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vien (Post 2416223)
I see well that sucks, but besides the cruise anything else?

Nope.

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 10-13-2015 03:24 PM

Does the header come with the overpipe -> header bolts & nuts or do I have to source that? If so, what bolt sizes did you use?
Thanks!

Rifle 10-21-2015 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit of Caerbonnog (Post 2418804)
Does the header come with the overpipe -> header bolts & nuts or do I have to source that? If so, what bolt sizes did you use?
Thanks!

Header comes with NOTHING - not even a cheap pair of gaskets. Normally, if you're using an aftermarket OP, they will have the nuts+bolts, as stock OP has studded bolts + nuts.

I used the PLM overpipe with no issues.


Also, we were able to pinpoint the source of my leak:

http://i.imgur.com/qzC5FJn.jpg

We used larger gaskets + torqued to spec, and this still happened. I'm assuming non-level, but I don't have a decking tool to say so. My vendor swapped it out for me no problem.

New header installed, and no issue! :thumbup:

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 10-22-2015 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2427793)
Header comes with NOTHING - not even a cheap pair of gaskets. Normally, if you're using an aftermarket OP, they will have the nuts+bolts, as stock OP has studded bolts + nuts.

I used the PLM overpipe with no issues.


Also, we were able to pinpoint the source of my leak:

http://i.imgur.com/qzC5FJn.jpg

We used larger gaskets + torqued to spec, and this still happened. I'm assuming non-level, but I don't have a decking tool to say so. My vendor swapped it out for me no problem.

New header installed, and no issue! :thumbup:

Yeah I received my header about a week ago. Unfortunately the Nameless op/fp I also ordered came without the op to header bolts. So far, how are you liking the header?

Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk

Rifle 10-22-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit of Caerbonnog (Post 2428007)
Yeah I received my header about a week ago. Unfortunately the Nameless op/fp I also ordered came without the op to header bolts. So far, how are you liking the header?

Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk

I love it. It has the snake sound to it, but only on the inside. Paired with the N1, you're not hearing shit anyway. It's aggressive af.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-25-2015 09:37 PM

Awesome setup, this review made it next on the mod list

Teseo 12-23-2015 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2431531)
Awesome setup, this review made it next on the mod list

When done make a video pls

Teseo 12-23-2015 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2415083)
Lol. So far, I love it. I'm about to leave for work shortly, let's see if I can take a cold-start video without waking up the neighborhood... unlikely..

Video doesnt work

Teseo 01-06-2016 08:57 PM

Anyone can confirm if the header and overpipe cant fit well? And need buy the overpipe of them to fit the header?

calvinwilson1 06-27-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2427793)
Header comes with NOTHING - not even a cheap pair of gaskets. Normally, if you're using an aftermarket OP, they will have the nuts+bolts, as stock OP has studded bolts + nuts.

I used the PLM overpipe with no issues.


Also, we were able to pinpoint the source of my leak:

http://i.imgur.com/qzC5FJn.jpg

We used larger gaskets + torqued to spec, and this still happened. I'm assuming non-level, but I don't have a decking tool to say so. My vendor swapped it out for me no problem.

New header installed, and no issue! :thumbup:

So you no longer have the whistle/rattle?
I just installed my manifold and found it to have the whistle noise :(
Your original link for the video with the rattle no longer works

Rifle 06-27-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinwilson1 (Post 2690019)
So you no longer have the whistle/rattle?
I just installed my manifold and found it to have the whistle noise :(
Your original link for the video with the rattle no longer works

This is a super old thread. Had the whistle until I winded up getting rid of the header. Went through two different headers from them both had nothing but issues. Ended up just buying a Tomei EL header and called it a day.

ELorinD86 09-08-2016 06:23 PM

The whistle flutter on these headers are caused by the flex pipes at least in my case. I had the them removed and no more terrible whistle of flutter noise.


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