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sledheadguy 09-29-2015 11:18 PM

made decision: I think........
 
bought this 14 in early feb of this year. Also put on blizzaks Ice Tracks for the winters left. Was thinking of parking it now!


but why? I have winter tires...not gonna keep it a very long time. My truck is great in the winter..esp with remote start. for those cold days.


But I drove my frs starting in feb of this year. It was a blast to drive in the snow.


Park or no park?

Cole 09-29-2015 11:28 PM

I prefer driving my FRS over my work truck in the winter.

ToySub1946 09-29-2015 11:41 PM

I'll assume you drive where streets are salted.

As you know salt ruins cars over time.

If you can afford to replace the car within 5 years of purchasing it, I'd say go ahead and drive it, enjoy that Torsen differential. And certainly it's fun driving a vehicle with traction control and anti-lock brakes in winter conditions....and turning them off for donuts and such.

If you decide to have both vehicles on the road at once, in the winter, keep a tow strap in the truck or car. Pull the car out of deep snow with the truck.

There's just nothing more fun (mentally uplifting) in a gloomy winter, than a vehicle which is balls on fun in the snow...an excuse to take weekend road trips as well.


I've experienced one winter with a car which was great in the snow. Over and over that winter, I told myself...it's way cheaper than a weekly trip to a shrink.

humdizzle 09-29-2015 11:52 PM

If you are driving the FRS in winter why the hell do you need a truck. Thats like having 2 daily drivers...

Cal3000 09-30-2015 12:03 AM

1st world problems

humfrz 09-30-2015 12:36 AM

Why not drive both year around ...... depending on the weather/road conditions that day .... ??


humfrz

Tcoat 09-30-2015 07:01 AM

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Need I say more?

dnieves 09-30-2015 07:06 AM

Do you have a stainless steel exhaust, if not, think of the rust!


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GT86_PRAGUE 09-30-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2405945)
Need I say more?

https://www.pinterest.com/donnab10/meanwhile-in-canada/

sledheadguy 09-30-2015 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2405695)
I'll assume you drive where streets are salted.

As you know salt ruins cars over time.

If you can afford to replace the car within 5 years of purchasing it, I'd say go ahead and drive it, enjoy that Torsen differential. And certainly it's fun driving a vehicle with traction control and anti-lock brakes in winter conditions....and turning them off for donuts and such.

If you decide to have both vehicles on the road at once, in the winter, keep a tow strap in the truck or car. Pull the car out of deep snow with the truck.

There's just nothing more fun (mentally uplifting) in a gloomy winter, than a vehicle which is balls on fun in the snow...an excuse to take weekend road trips as well.


I've experienced one winter with a car which was great in the snow. Over and over that winter, I told myself...it's way cheaper than a weekly trip to a shrink.


I agree driving in snow..esp..new snow is a blast to drive.

DarkSunrise 09-30-2015 09:28 AM

If there's salt on the ground, drive the truck. If the snow is nice and fresh, do drift donuts in the FR-S. Problem solved?

Cole 09-30-2015 10:00 AM

Ps, salt corrosion shouldn't be a huge deal for the first 6-7 years for a brand new car. Iirc most of the panels are zinc plated. That'll hold off corrosion for a decent span of time. If it's really a big deal, get regular washes that spray the undercarriage.

Shit, it's a 25k car, it's not rare. And in a few years, they'll still fetch a pretty penny as I see them being the next 240, so you can charge a drift tax.

Tcoat 09-30-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2406007)
Ps, salt corrosion shouldn't be a huge deal for the first 6-7 years for a brand new car. Iirc most of the panels are zinc plated. That'll hold off corrosion for a decent span of time. If it's really a big deal, get regular washes that spray the undercarriage.

Shit, it's a 25k car, it's not rare. And in a few years, they'll still fetch a pretty penny as I see them being the next 240, so you can charge a drift tax.

This^
Cars made within the last 15 to 20 years just simply do not rust like the ones before that. The coatings and treatments have come so far it is amazing. My old 2003 Lancer that is now owned by a guy just down the road still looks brand new after 13 winters in the heart of salt country winter roads.
I have a big chip on my front fender that happened a week after I got the car last year and I have deliberately left it un painted to see how bad it would rust (I am weird that way sometimes). So far after a year, including one very salty winter, the bare steel remains untouched by even surface rust. I am extremely optimistic that the body panels on these cars are well treated and rust resistant.
Yes, uncoated bolt heads, suspension wear points, exhaust brackets, exhaust components, etc are going to rust but that is going to happen if you drive it in the winter or not.
I get where the fear comes from as I had 70s and 80s cars that had rusted so bad that after 5 years they were missing whole floor and/or body panels but those days are long gone. Unless of course we are talking Mazda then that is a whole different story.

yanfoo 09-30-2015 10:32 AM

hey @Tcoat I was about to say it wasn't all that true until I read your last sentence...

Hell yeah Mazda's are different, my wife's '09 is rusting VERY badly...

Tcoat 09-30-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by yanfoo (Post 2406025)
hey @Tcoat I was about to say it wasn't all that true until I read your last sentence...

Hell yeah Mazda's are different, my wife's '09 is rusting VERY badly...

My son in law's 08 Mazda 3 looked like a 20 year old heap by 2014
Pretty sure it is a business plan they have. They install what they call the "anti rust modules" that I think are actually programed to create rust at a pre programed point.
Year 1 - perfect
Year 2 - flawless
Year 3 - pristine
Year 4 - doors fall off and wheel wells disappear so go buy a new one

Cole 09-30-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2406022)
This^
Cars made within the last 15 to 20 years just simply do not rust like the ones before that. The coatings and treatments have come so far it is amazing. My old 2003 Lancer that is now owned by a guy just down the road still looks brand new after 13 winters in the heart of salt country winter roads.
I have a big chip on my front fender that happened a week after I got the car last year and I have deliberately left it un painted to see how bad it would rust (I am weird that way sometimes). So far after a year, including one very salty winter, the bare steel remains untouched by even surface rust. I am extremely optimistic that the body panels on these cars are well treated and rust resistant.
Yes, uncoated bolt heads, suspension wear points, exhaust brackets, exhaust components, etc are going to rust but that is going to happen if you drive it in the winter or not.
I get where the fear comes from as I had 70s and 80s cars that had rusted so bad that after 5 years they were missing whole floor and/or body panels but those days are long gone. Unless of course we are talking Mazda then that is a whole different story.

I also mitigate corrosion in massive steel structures for a living , so I know a thing or 69 about this stuff lol

Tcoat 09-30-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2406036)
I also mitigate corrosion in massive steel structures for a living , so I know a thing or 69 about this stuff lol

And that can be some of the scariest rust ever!

Over the years I have completed total restorations of:
61 Karman Gaia
58 Chevy
58 Ford
64 1/2 Mustang

The guys with anything made after 1995 or so don't know shit about rust (again with the Mazda disclaimer).

86geek 09-30-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2406065)
And that can be some of the scariest rust ever!

Over the years I have completed total restorations of:
61 Karman Gaia

The guys with anything made after 1995 or so don't know shit about rust (again with the Mazda disclaimer).

Wow! Haven't heard about a VW Karman Ghia in a long time. I have a friend who's Uncle tracks a gutted out '68 Ghia every month. My best friend in high school had a '69 Ghia with brown metallic flake imron paint. :drool:

Tcoat 09-30-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 2406334)
Wow! Haven't heard about a VW Karman Ghia in a long time. I have a friend who's Uncle tracks a gutted out '68 Ghia every month. My best friend in high school had a '69 Ghia with brown metallic flake imron paint. :drool:

Yep in all it's 1.2 liter 35hp glory!

http://www.ltv-vwc.org.uk/wheelspin/...u-lose-adv.jpg

thill 09-30-2015 04:00 PM

The car is not some collectors edition Ferrari or Porsche. Just put it the winter tires on it that you already bought and use the car for the intended purpose. Wash it regularly, but just enjoy it. I seriously doubt it will affect your resale value at all if you drive in the snow and properly maintain the car vs keeping it in the garage. I guess the only benefit is keeping the mileage lower, but in the end the car will depreciate whether you are driving it or not and then you are paying for something you are not enjoying.

People overthink this stuff. Enjoy it. It is a fun car in the snow with snow tires.

Tcoat 09-30-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thill (Post 2406451)
The car is not some collectors edition Ferrari or Porsche. Just put it the winter tires on it that you already bought and use the car for the intended purpose. Wash it regularly, but just enjoy it. I seriously doubt it will affect your resale value at all if you drive in the snow and properly maintain the car vs keeping it in the garage. I guess the only benefit is keeping the mileage lower, but in the end the car will depreciate whether you are driving it or not and then you are paying for something you are not enjoying.

People overthink this stuff. Enjoy it. It is a fun car in the snow with snow tires.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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stevesnj 09-30-2015 07:43 PM

If your truck is capable in the snow why drive the car? Isn't the truck more of a sure thing?

Sarlacc 09-30-2015 08:07 PM

I've got a truck, too. A 4x4 Nissan with low gear series. I use it as a work horse in the forest and for supply runs.
I use my GT86 for everything else, all year.
I've had dents and scratces and rust spots. All taken care of by insurance and warranty. No worries.
The car is great in the snow, by the way. If you like that kind of spirit, of course :-)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/1...5cfa2ed3_h.jpg

caliprep 09-30-2015 08:17 PM

Lol even though I hate the cost of living, I feel lucky to be living in Cali.

sledheadguy 10-20-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 2406767)
If your truck is capable in the snow why drive the car? Isn't the truck more of a sure thing?

because the car is a blast to drive in the snow. up where I live its the common thing to store your summer driver its its a sports car. I am now second guessing it

yanfoo 10-20-2015 03:34 PM

Been driving mine for the past 2 winters, zero issues, 100% of the fun.

My old Suzuki Vitara (a real 4x4) was the only thing that was more fun, just because you could drift all 4 wheels at the same time...

I say enjoy it, on my part I just can't live without it...


edit: and oh, mine's a 13, 55000km, looks like out of the showroom floor. All it needs is care when spring comes around. A few ThOROUGH washes in wheel arches, engine bay and such. You need to go everywhere the pressure washer won't.

Of course it isn't perfect after only 1 wash, it usually takes me 3 or 4 to get it where I want it to be.

No rust, no nothing. I'm telling you it's still brand new, even cleaner than some that are put aside for winter months.

sledheadguy 10-20-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by humdizzle (Post 2405712)
If you are driving the FRS in winter why the hell do you need a truck. Thats like having 2 daily drivers...

whats wrong with that? been doing that since jan. kinda like it

Tcoat 10-20-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sledheadguy (Post 2425946)
because the car is a blast to drive in the snow. up where I live its the common thing to store your summer driver its its a sports car. I am now second guessing it

I am a huge advocate for driving a car all year round... usually.
I drive mine year round because I bought it as an inexpensive, fun, nice looking DD and have no expectations of keeping it looking nice or having it more then 5 years. If you want to keep it a long time and not having it look like it went through a meat grinder then storage is the better option. These cars are more then competent in the snow but if you do have the option of driving something else it should be considered. Now if you don't mind the little bit of wear and tear the winter causes then it is indeed a blast to drive in the snow.

sledheadguy 10-20-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2405945)
Need I say more?

hahaha..no shit.....but that feeling after a light snow. You dont hear anything in cab. Like no sound......its like floasting on air. And thinking of driving the truck for 6 months straight after driving this car since feb. im so confused. But when it gets cold and theres not much snow and everything is ice......its an ass jarring ride. esp it northing canada

sledheadguy 10-20-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2406790)
I've got a truck, too. A 4x4 Nissan with low gear series. I use it as a work horse in the forest and for supply runs.
I use my GT86 for everything else, all year.
I've had dents and scratces and rust spots. All taken care of by insurance and warranty. No worries.
The car is great in the snow, by the way. If you like that kind of spirit, of course :-)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/1...5cfa2ed3_h.jpg

nice ride

sledheadguy 10-20-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2425959)
I am a huge advocate for driving a car all year round... usually.
I drive mine year round because I bought it as an inexpensive, fun, nice looking DD and have no expectations of keeping it looking nice or having it more then 5 years. If you want to keep it a long time and not having it look like it went through a meat grinder then storage is the better option. These cars are more then competent in the snow but if you do have the option of driving something else it should be considered. Now if you don't mind the little bit of wear and tear the winter causes then it is indeed a blast to drive in the snow.

hmm im second guessing parking it......was never thinking of keeping it long time....hmmmmm

Tcoat 10-20-2015 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sledheadguy (Post 2425986)
hmm im second guessing parking it......was never thinking of keeping it long time....hmmmmm

Then my first post in this thread stands!

sledheadguy 02-27-2016 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2406790)
I've got a truck, too. A 4x4 Nissan with low gear series. I use it as a work horse in the forest and for supply runs.
I use my GT86 for everything else, all year.
I've had dents and scratces and rust spots. All taken care of by insurance and warranty. No worries.
The car is great in the snow, by the way. If you like that kind of spirit, of course :-)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/1...5cfa2ed3_h.jpg

that black looks good in this pic....damn......really

HeadBanger 02-28-2016 09:19 AM

If you're asking this you seem pretty boring and should just sell the car.

Demandred7 02-28-2016 09:32 AM

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Sarlacc 02-28-2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sledheadguy (Post 2562624)
that black looks good in this pic....damn......really

Thanks... it is good :-)

purearsenal 02-28-2016 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2562808)
Simply this:

At least you'll get money when you resell. The new guy isn't going to give you shit for the girlfriend.


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