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iwantafrs 09-28-2015 12:03 AM

BRZ more limited than ever?
 
I went on cars.com to find a new BRZ. I typed in my zip code and the nearest one is 119miles away, and ONLY 80 results for an automatic in the US. I also went to 6 dealerships and none of them have an automatic in stock. even finding a manual would be somewhat difficult. There might be 1-2 manual BRZ for sale in the whole NYC. Is it hard for you guys to one too?

There are 1121 matches for an automatic and 632 Manuals for the FRS
and like I said, 80 matches for an automatic and 448 manual for the BRZ
on cars.com in the United States

ryoma 09-28-2015 12:39 AM

I don't think cars.com has the full inventory. who knows how often they refresh their data and where they get their data from

extrashaky 09-28-2015 02:29 AM

I was just over at my Subaru dealer here in town. They had five sitting in the "sporty" row with the Imprezas. I didn't bother looking, but it wouldn't surprise me if all of them were automatics. The manuals sell quicker.

Back in New Orleans the Subaru dealer always had several on the lot, and they were always autos. The manuals tended to come in and go right back out off the lot within a week. Usually the demand is higher for autos, but it's upside down for the BRZ.

The shortage you see is probably just a NY thing. Hell, I used to live there, and I wouldn't want a BRZ in the city. Cars take a real beating there. A BRZ would be trashed inside of three months.

tvrbob86 09-28-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoma (Post 2403210)
I don't think cars.com has the full inventory.

It is not an inventory database. It's a sales tool, like Autotrader. Some dealers (and other sellers) list on one, some on the other, some on both, some on neither.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoma (Post 2403210)
who knows how often they refresh their data and where they get their data from

They get their data from the dealers that list the cars for sale. I would bet Cars.com refreshes its data almost constantly, but what is added and removed is totally seller/dealer dependent. Some list as soon as they know what's coming in, some list when it hits the lot, others don't list at all. Some remove right away, some let listings linger for a month or longer.

I recently inquired about a low-mileage 1995 Miata M Edition that an Atlanta-area BMW dealer had listed. The CARFAX that they provided showed that it sold a month ago, but they still listed it on their website and on Cars.com. They finally removed it after I sent inquiries every day for almost a week. They sent repeated emails asking what they could do to help me but never responded when I asked if the car was still available. What they wanted me to do was call so they'd get my number and hound me every day by phone, too.

PNW-BRZ 09-28-2015 03:01 AM

I just got back from a week in NYC. The entire time I was there I saw 1 BRZ parked outside of a firestation. At home (Washington), I typically see 2-4 per day. It may just not be a big market for them.

swarb 09-28-2015 03:36 AM

Go to every single dealer website in your area and click inventory. It's usually updated daily so it is pretty accurate. It should also mention in stock or in transport/awaiting delivery.

Just get a FR-S...

nzer 09-28-2015 03:58 AM

At least you still have them. Here in New Zealand Subaru have stopped selling them completely. They really struggled marketing it here as they promote AWD as safe and struggled with the RWD fun fitting into that message and the implication that AWD isn't fun.

FR-Sizzle 09-28-2015 04:41 AM

Op you do realize the 2016 is about to be out and I believe taking orders already. You really think they are gonna have any available when the 2016 is so close

swarb 09-28-2015 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle (Post 2403292)
Op you do realize the 2016 is about to be out and I believe taking orders already. You really think they are gonna have any available when the 2016 is so close

Do you realize the 2016 is out already?

kilohercas 09-28-2015 06:06 AM

Strange that some one want automatic transmission inside this type of car. I will never buy automatic, where is the fun in that...
I guess inside USA things are a bit different

iwantafrs 09-28-2015 09:38 AM

Yes 2016 is out but none of them are available in NYC to show

on the other hand, there are many WRX and even the blue series on the sales floor.

berkbrzfan 09-28-2015 10:50 AM

Yes, there are no 2016 automatics showing up near NYC. There are a couple of 2015 automatics more than 100 miles away in Delaware and Maryland. For manuals, you have more options as there are a bunch of them much closer in Connecticut and New York.

adamg 09-28-2015 11:43 AM

OP i thought youwantafrs

Turbo95eg6 09-28-2015 12:25 PM

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Speed2th 09-28-2015 12:34 PM

cars.com is a advertisement program, dealers have to paid to list their cars for sale. BRZ and FRS sales are poor compared to other car models (you can look up the number on google), it is waste of space and resource to have them in the lot especially for places that snows. I think the 86 never achieved to their expected sale number.

extrashaky 09-28-2015 01:12 PM

I don't understand what the drama is about. If you go into a dealership and say you want a BRZ with an automatic, and the nearest one is 100 miles away, the salesman will get on his computer and his phone and find out what it will take to get that car for you. When I bought mine, the guy got on the computer and looked all around the region to tell me what was available out there, including colors and trim packages. I ended up ordering mine and waiting for delivery, but if I had been desperate to get a BRZ sooner, I could have had it.

You may have to pay a transfer fee for the cost of getting it to your local dealership. You may not, depending on how bad they want to sell you a car. Dealers trade cars back and forth all the time. Right now would be a good time to go in and ask, since Thursday is the end of the month, and the salesmen may be getting a little anxious about meeting their monthly numbers.

If you need to test drive it, just go down to Delaware or wherever you find one and drive it. 100 miles is nothing if it's something you really want. I just drove 500 miles round trip (twice) to buy a truck. If you just sit at home wishing for it, it may never happen.

NyC Zn6 09-28-2015 02:22 PM

Pretty sure majority are buying new. Makes no sense to get a used on when you can throw a couple grand more and get a new one. Unless you want a 13' to build a race car or some shit lol.

jawn 09-28-2015 02:38 PM

Dealers are just starting to get 2016s in. Selection will always be limited during model year transitions.

LWAA 09-28-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilohercas (Post 2403302)
Strange that some one want automatic transmission inside this type of car. I will never buy automatic, where is the fun in that...
I guess inside USA things are a bit different


I can't drive shift on LHD cars. Still confuses the hell out of me after driving in the uk for almost 20 years. But as soon as I drove my first automatic here I said I'd never drive another manual. The AT BRZ is huge fun, and that without even trying the paddles yet.


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Side 09-28-2015 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilohercas (Post 2403302)
Strange that some one want automatic transmission inside this type of car. I will never buy automatic, where is the fun in that...
I guess inside USA things are a bit different

After a few weeks of research on the forums (especially this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6485) I willingly ordered a 2016 Automatic.

I've only driven automatic and don't feel any particular need to switch considering how close the performance is between the two.

Chad11491 09-28-2015 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Side (Post 2404175)
After a few weeks of research on the forums (especially this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6485) I willingly ordered a 2016 Automatic.

I've only driven automatic and don't feel any particular need to switch considering how close the performance is between the two.

The auto is over a second slower to 60, as well as you lose some of the driver engagement and fun by not having a manual, which is the whole reason this car exists. But autos are fine if you don't know how, or aren't willing/able to drive a stick.

/troll

Dorb 09-28-2015 07:28 PM

I see the FRS's all the time but not any BRZ's here Northwest of Dayton, Oh.

aznatama 09-28-2015 07:41 PM

Feel free to buy mine.

Side 09-28-2015 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad11491 (Post 2404196)
The auto is over a second slower to 60, as well as you lose some of the driver engagement and fun by not having a manual, which is the whole reason this car exists. But autos are fine if you don't know how, or aren't willing/able to drive a stick.

/troll

I'm coming from an automatic 95 Accord EX, I'm sure the BRZ will be a significant upgrade over my current driving experience :P

Unnone 09-30-2015 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Side (Post 2404239)
I'm coming from an automatic 95 Accord EX, I'm sure the BRZ will be a significant upgrade over my current driving experience :P

I just got mine last week came from 8 years in an automatic civic. Never driving stick before, crash coursed for an hour before going to the dealership in my dad's MG. Drove stick for the second time at the dealership, didn't stall it (it's really not hard and the brz is way easier than a car from the 60s lol.) bought the car and drove home solo 45 miles home. Had to ebrake Hill launch when I got into town because I knew I wasn't fast enough to not roll back words into the dude 2in from my bumper. Accidentally triggered traction control. Had a fucking blast.

Seriously buy manual, watch YouTube vids, read up on it, and drive some low speed streets and just learn 0-25 mpg and back to Zero. Do that and you'll be set anything above 20mph is easy it's just first gear you have to learn.

Also the adrenaline of being scared shitless in traffic for stalling is a magnificent high!

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