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justinsstang 09-21-2015 10:38 PM

Brake upgrade for a DD, spirited driving.
 
I'll come right out and say the OEM brakes perform pretty well for the cars use, but my girlfriends birthday is coming up and she wants red calipers. I was going to paint the stock calipers, but after inspecting them the stockers just look boring and probably wouldn't look much better anyways

What is the lowest cost caliper upgrade (and rotors/pads if necessary) to have that full face look like brembos, wilwoods, etc.

I was going to just buy caliper covers but I honestly think those are pretty lame. Better braking would be great, but its not the main goal here. Even if it had the same braking capabilities but would shed some weight that would be enough for me to justify a cheap brake upgrade for her.

I'm thinking cheap as in $500 or less if possible. Not trying to buy some brembos or wilwoods. I'd possibly go a little higher if it was a big upgrade.

Thanks, please don't troll me for trying make the brakes look nicer for her. She don't really care about added brake performance and I want her to have the full face painted caliper look instead of the OEM ones painted. She has no idea I'm considering doing this.

cjd 09-21-2015 10:47 PM

Paint, stainless lines, properly bleed and consider a pad upgrade (DS2500 or something?) in the front and rear.

Never cheap on brakes. Doubly so when stock are quite decent. I don't even think any of the "not recommended if you plan to use them" oddball upgrades like the STI stuff can meet your price.

wootwoot 09-21-2015 10:53 PM

300zx brake swap would work.

justinsstang 09-21-2015 11:52 PM

What year on the 300zx brakes, and what are the benefits to them/where do I get them?

Mr.ac 09-22-2015 12:05 AM

The urge to go off on you....is too much but,
For under $500 nope. Maybe if you find something off eBay.
But really,
Paint them. If you want a good look take them off, give it 3 or 4 coats.
If you want to kick it up a notch powder coat them.
If you truly want to be a baller stencil in Brembo, STI, TRD, or even her name on them.

Good luck

Jrdad 09-22-2015 12:49 AM

If you're looking for a budget bbk than this is an option

http://www.racingbrake.com/322x25mm-...m-p/2127-k.htm

Fastbrew 09-22-2015 12:59 AM

Just add SS lines, bracket, change fluid - paint the things and call it a day.

CSG Mike 09-22-2015 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsstang (Post 2397344)
I'll come right out and say the OEM brakes perform pretty well for the cars use, but my girlfriends birthday is coming up and she wants red calipers. I was going to paint the stock calipers, but after inspecting them the stockers just look boring and probably wouldn't look much better anyways

What is the lowest cost caliper upgrade (and rotors/pads if necessary) to have that full face look like brembos, wilwoods, etc.

I was going to just buy caliper covers but I honestly think those are pretty lame. Better braking would be great, but its not the main goal here. Even if it had the same braking capabilities but would shed some weight that would be enough for me to justify a cheap brake upgrade for her.

I'm thinking cheap as in $500 or less if possible. Not trying to buy some brembos or wilwoods. I'd possibly go a little higher if it was a big upgrade.

Thanks, please don't troll me for trying make the brakes look nicer for her. She don't really care about added brake performance and I want her to have the full face painted caliper look instead of the OEM ones painted. She has no idea I'm considering doing this.

If you want the look, caliper covers are really your only option at your price range.

Cheaping out on a fundamental safety item on the car is not a good idea, so if your goal is really just the look, then go for the look with a cover, or painting the caliper.

Dave-ROR 09-22-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2397512)
If you want the look, caliper covers are really your only option at your price range.

Cheaping out on a fundamental safety item on the car is not a good idea, so if your goal is really just the look, then go for the look with a cover, or painting the caliper.

Agree. I think the covers are really dumb but if you really want the look, they are your best option at this point.

Of course, when others see it they will also think it's dumb and that she's a ricer but.... :shrug:

I hate painted calipers too but I'd rather see that than a ghetto BBK with questionable parts.

Otherwise, the 300zx setup mentioned above (search for it) would be your best bet. It has decent OEM parts but it still pretty obviously an OEM setup transplanted over. For more you could do STI brakes but I'd probably go 300z before the STI ones.

bee_are_zee 09-22-2015 10:50 AM

Wrx 4pots are cheap. Direct bolt on. Completely safe. And come in red.

Dave-ROR 09-22-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bee_are_zee (Post 2397734)
Wrx 4pots are cheap. Direct bolt on. Completely safe. And come in red.

And functionally worst than OEM. There's a reason I didn't suggest them. They provide less clamping force than the sliding 2 pots.

bee_are_zee 09-22-2015 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2397776)
And functionally worst than OEM. There's a reason I didn't suggest them. They provide less clamping force than the sliding 2 pots.


Sounds like he isn't really concerned with performance, that's why I mentioned them. But yea this is just another case of you have to pay to play.

justinsstang 09-22-2015 05:38 PM

Well I wouldn't want worse performance. The reason I don't want to paint the calipers is that they aren't full face, the hole in the middle of the face is ugly lol. I'm surprised sti breaks are worse than the FRS... 40k car vs 25k car

ryoma 09-22-2015 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsstang (Post 2398316)
Well I wouldn't want worse performance. The reason I don't want to paint the calipers is that they aren't full face, the hole in the middle of the face is ugly lol. I'm surprised sti breaks are worse than the FRS... 40k car vs 25k car

the STI brakes are brembos, which are better than our stock ones. he was referring to the WRX brakes.

however, there has been quite a long discussion on whether or not the STI brakes would be safe in the long run for our cars since you have to do some modifying to properly convert them for the 86. you be the judge on whether or not you want to do it. there's quite a few threads on this forum about it

wparsons 09-22-2015 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsstang (Post 2398316)
Well I wouldn't want worse performance. The reason I don't want to paint the calipers is that they aren't full face, the hole in the middle of the face is ugly lol. I'm surprised sti breaks are worse than the FRS... 40k car vs 25k car

They were talking about the WRX 4 piston fixed calipers, not the STI brembos.

I wouldn't bother with the STI brembos either though. They're roughly equivalent to stock in braking power and heat resistance, not worth the cost unless you're doing it totally because you like the look of them.

justinsstang 09-22-2015 05:44 PM

Is there not a better full face caliper with bracket I can bolt on to the stock rotors and retain stock lines with? Better braking isn't top priority if I do this for her, but I won't do a mod that decreases braking ability either. Something that I can upgrade the lines and rotors later if.I want to. This car will eventually get a turbo kit but probably will never see over 300rwhp and it doesn't need monster breaks with the weight of the car and power well be pushing.

bee_are_zee 09-22-2015 05:50 PM

Short answer. No not in that price range.

8R6 09-22-2015 06:10 PM

please dont get caliper covers :(

Dave-ROR 09-22-2015 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bee_are_zee (Post 2398329)
Short answer. No not in that price range.

^^^


What he said.


The 300z stuff is close but would need to source good calipers, etc, paint them and so on and I don't expect you'll love the look of them.. especially as they said Nissan on them.

justinsstang 09-22-2015 08:26 PM

I could probably shave the Nissan off with a dremel and sand it down and paint it and put a brembo sticker on it lol... Might never see the Nissan. How would I go about getting all I need for the zx brake swap and how much would it cost? And we're talking front and rear correct

Dave-ROR 09-22-2015 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsstang (Post 2398447)
I could probably shave the Nissan off with a dremel and sand it down and paint it and put a brembo sticker on it lol... Might never see the Nissan. How would I go about getting all I need for the zx brake swap and how much would it cost? And we're talking front and rear correct

Not the rear I don't believe. Search for it on the forums.

sosick 09-23-2015 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jrdad (Post 2397438)
If you're looking for a budget bbk than this is an option

http://www.racingbrake.com/322x25mm-...m-p/2127-k.htm

I was looking for this

STV3 09-23-2015 02:17 PM

With a limit of $500 your only two options are paint the stocks or get caliper covers. The very last thing you'd ever want to cheap out on is the cars braking system.


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