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Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 11:31 AM

SRT FR-S/Subaru BRZ Header Back Performance Exhaust System ... NOW RELEASED!
 
Hello Everyone,
As many of you know we got our hands on the FR-S a couple of weeks ago and have been relentlessly doing a LOT of R&D on what parts we will be making for this particular platform.

We decided to start with by addressing the exhaust system. The first thing we did was remove the entire system to study the factory design and then figure out what improvements we needed to make.
At the same time we also decided to put in an O2 bung before the primary catalytic converter (pic #'s 2,3) so we could collect un-manipulated A/F numbers from the vehicle. This is VERY important data and gives us some very crucial data that is absolutely needed when one plans on make numerous parts that will have to perform and at the same time be safe for the vehicle. At the same time provides us with data that will tell us what works well with the stock ecu. The data collected will also help us in the future when it comes to tuning the vehicle.

Well here are some preliminary pics of the exhaust system. This system starts at the flange right off the "over" pipe and all the way back. We are using a full stainless steel construction and like all our exhausts and turbo manifolds we make this system will also come with a full lifetime warranty.

As you will see in the pics our system is a truly unique design for this platform. We have kept the number of bends to a minimum and at the same time we use a proper merge collector for the rear section to divide the exhaust flow to both sides equally. This particular design was our 5th design and was the most appealing visually and the sound was exactly where we wanted it to be (videos will be up later along with dyno numbers). The sound has a very nice deep tone/growl at initial throttle in from idle to about 3000 rpm then it actually starts to quiet down with more throttle input all the way to redline so as not to attract attention when one is doing some spirited driving ;)

Well enjoy these pics and we will be posting more pics and videos as they become available. Thanks.

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/1.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/2.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/3.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/4.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/5.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/6.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/7.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/8.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/exhaust/9.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/10.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/11.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/12.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/13.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/14.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/15.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Image...exhaust/16.jpg

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 11:31 AM

OEM Header back exhaust weight: 55.5 lbs

SRT Header back exhaust weight: 38.5 lbs.

Weight Savings: 17lbs!!!

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 11:32 AM

Dyno results, Enjoy:

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/dyno/frs1.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/dyno/frs2.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/dyno/frs3.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/dyno/frs4.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/dyno/frs5.jpg

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/dyno/frs6.jpg


Videos (MORE TO COME SOON):

Start Up, Idle, No Load Free Rev:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l73h2iik9Ms&hd=1"]Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ SRT Header Back Exhaust System - YouTube[/ame]

Dyno Runs:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ8Qh5Oj3xk&hd=1"]Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ Dyno Runs SRT Header Back Exhaust System - YouTube[/ame]


Here is another video that just finished processing.

This is done in our parking lot, sorry for the noisy AC compressors across the parking lot (you can see them, it was extremely hot about 100*). More videos of driveby's and cruising as well as inside/interior cruising coming as soon as this slow pc finishes processing. BTW all the videos are done in 1080P HD resolution with HD sound for best replication and for your viewing pleasure. Enjoy!!!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ldjk90kucI&hd=1"]SRT Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ Header back exhaust system - YouTube[/ame]


And here is the long awaited videos of the drive by's. (The next video is inside/interior cruising/spirited driving and just having fun stay tuned should be up within the hour). ENJOY!!!!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zESpyDCmbak&hd=1"]SRT Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ Header Back Exhaust Drive By Vids. - YouTube[/ame]


Inside car footage, Long Video:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZQzlTOvjo&hd=1"]SRT Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ Header Back Exhaust System Inside Car footage - YouTube[/ame]


Under car footage from behind:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owUiJwZ_z6o&hd=1"]SRT Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ Header back Exhaust System - Under car footage. - YouTube[/ame]

mattles 06-21-2012 12:17 PM

All I can say is -Wow. If there was ever an OEM+ option for the FRS/BRZ this is it right here. Subscribed.

Draco-REX 06-21-2012 12:21 PM

That is very clean looking. NIce.

Now we need vids.

Take off mild, take off full, and drive-by. Interior video of cabin noise too.

Weights would be nice to know too.

Bu-Tang 06-21-2012 12:46 PM

Yes this is exactly the look i was hoping someone would develop!!!! Keep the Updates coming :D

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattles (Post 270648)
All I can say is -Wow. If there was ever an OEM+ option for the FRS/BRZ this is it right here. Subscribed.

Thank you, we appreciate it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 270656)
That is very clean looking. NIce.

Now we need vids.

Take off mild, take off full, and drive-by. Interior video of cabin noise too.

Weights would be nice to know too.

Yes, we will have all the vids and dyno etc. up by this weekend. Including weight numbers and all the pertinent details.

Genomaxter 06-21-2012 12:55 PM

I love that design for the Y pipe going to the mufflers. Very clean and keeps all the components up inside the body and gives plenty of clearance for an underbody diffuser. Very nicely done!

uspspro 06-21-2012 01:31 PM

Dynos!

Any chance of making a "catback" version (connecting at the downpipe)

Ranatsu 06-21-2012 01:42 PM

That is quite nice.

CoRi J 06-21-2012 01:46 PM

me gusta! o_o

Reflections 06-21-2012 01:52 PM

Really clean looking system! Should have some good flow, very little bends.

boarder1995 06-21-2012 01:56 PM

Sign me up (pending videos and dynos)! Any estimation of cost?

Filipino Royale 06-21-2012 02:00 PM

wow! thats nice!! sound test please.

baldolera 06-21-2012 02:07 PM

Can't wait to see some in-car driving vids, and dyno vids. MAAAAAD

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genomaxter (Post 270710)
I love that design for the Y pipe going to the mufflers. Very clean and keeps all the components up inside the body and gives plenty of clearance for an underbody diffuser. Very nicely done!

Yes sir, that's what we were aiming for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uspspro (Post 270773)
Dynos!
Any chance of making a "catback" version (connecting at the downpipe)

Yes we also have an over pipe to replace the oem, but that piece will be optional to keep cost for us as well as for the customers down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflections (Post 270817)
Really clean looking system! Should have some good flow, very little bends.

That was the whole premise to the design, not to mention keep the rear aesthetics as symmetrical and appealing as possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boarder1995 (Post 270827)
Sign me up (pending videos and dynos)! Any estimation of cost?

The final cost figures have not been finalized as of yet, we will post another topic discussing the pricing at the appropriate classified section once we have the final numbers. However, let's put it this way, it is significantly less expensive than anything that is currently available. ;)

kanundrum 06-21-2012 02:22 PM

size of piping?

Snoopyalien24 06-21-2012 02:22 PM

Cannot wait to hear this on the street in a video

MarkRacerX 06-21-2012 02:27 PM

Looking GREAT !!!

Can't wait to hear it ROAR and see what gains !

Thank you!!

bimmerboy 06-21-2012 02:43 PM

wow finally someone steps up and goes against the stock design. IDK why so many aftermarket companies are simply making replica OEM style exhausts...You can tell by looking at this exhaust it will flow better than stock...

+1 for clips of it under load

rupert 06-21-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift Racing Technologies (Post 270869)
The final cost figures have not been finalized as of yet, we will post another topic discussing the pricing at the appropriate classified section once we have the final numbers. However, let's put it this way, it is significantly less expensive than anything that is currently available. ;)

I'm imagining that this will be much lighter than the stock setup. If it sounds as great as it looks, you will have my money (provided I can get my BRZ lol).

Tunagoat 06-21-2012 02:47 PM

Long time lurker signed up to ask 2 things

1- will this clear a 1 peice driveshaft whenever one is developed
2 - is that mufflers or resonators -- many tracks want mufflersaround here to stay under 98db

Best looking exhaust I've seen so far.. Tips are perfect in size too

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanundrum (Post 270881)
size of piping?

2.5"

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerboy (Post 270925)
wow finally someone steps up and goes against the stock design. IDK why so many aftermarket companies are simply making replica OEM style exhausts...You can tell by looking at this exhaust it will flow better than stock...
+1 for clips of it under load

TY sir, we strive to be original and at the same time make some of the best parts in the industry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupert (Post 270926)
I'm imagining that this will be much lighter than the stock setup. If it sounds as great as it looks, you will have my money (provided I can get my BRZ lol).

Yes I just updated post number 2 with the weights of ours vs. OEM. A weight savings of a whopping 20.7 lbs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunagoat (Post 270933)
Long time lurker signed up to ask 2 things
1- will this clear a 1 peice driveshaft whenever one is developed
2 - is that mufflers or resonators -- many tracks want mufflersaround here to stay under 98db
Best looking exhaust I've seen so far.. Tips are perfect in size too

I guess welcome aboard :)
1) Maybe it will really depend on the DS tubing OD, however, just keep in mind there are several reasons that an OE will do two piece DS design rather than a single piece, you have to consider harmonics, related to length, diameter, and thickness of DS tubing used. In other words a single piece DS is not necessarily better than a 2 piece DS.
2) Kind of in between not really resonators nor really mufflers. This exhaust is no where near 98db, it really is not loud at all. We will post video clips soon. There is absolutely no drone inside the cabin and the exhaust sound levels under WOT is actually less prevalent than the intake sound inside the cabin in the higher RPM Range. :thumbup:

MTeator 06-21-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift Racing Technologies (Post 270869)
Yes we also have an over pipe to replace the oem, but that piece will be optional to keep cost for us as well as for the customers down.

Is this a yes, there's a catback version that keeps all the original cats so that it would be legal for SCCA stock?

RiskyTrousers 06-21-2012 04:26 PM

Will you be developing a version with a high flow cat? This would be what I'm looking for.

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTeator (Post 271107)
Is this a yes, there's a catback version that keeps all the original cats so that it would be legal for SCCA stock?

Negative, if you are looking for an exhaust that keeps the auxiliary cat in place then no that is not standard issue with this particular system.
However, we can and will install a high flow metallic core cat in the OE location for those of you that would like to get one in there, of course that is an optional item that will have additional cost with it.
Please keep in mind that the actual primary cat is still in the vehicle, the primary cat is built into the header system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiskyTrousers (Post 271114)
Will you be developing a version with a high flow cat? This would be what I'm looking for.

See above ^^ reply.


PS. Post number 2 has been updated with some pics as well as weight figures.

Shagaliscious 06-21-2012 05:02 PM

Wow, that exhaust looks beautiful! Do you know if the car will have a problem with emissions with just the primary cat.?

MTeator 06-21-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift Racing Technologies (Post 271130)
Negative, if you are looking for an exhaust that keeps the auxiliary cat in place then no that is not standard issue with this particular system.
However, we can and will install a high flow metallic core cat in the OE location for those of you that would like to get one in there, of course that is an optional item that will have additional cost with it.
Please keep in mind that the actual primary cat is still in the vehicle, the primary cat is built into the header system.

Ah bummer, thought it looked nice but can't use it :/

mike2100 06-21-2012 05:19 PM

Love it, can't wait to hear how it sounds

Symbiont 06-21-2012 05:54 PM

I love the look of the system, and am really looking forward to seeing numbers and vids on it.

I'm really looking for something that can pass emissions in California, as well, however. Is this system 50 state street legal, or is it primarily designed for track events/states with less stringent requirements?

catharsis 06-21-2012 06:33 PM

So far this looks like the best designed and most thought out exhaust yet. Very minimal bend angles.

uspspro 06-21-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 271292)
I love the look of the system, and am really looking forward to seeing numbers and vids on it.

I'm really looking for something that can pass emissions in California, as well, however. Is this system 50 state street legal, or is it primarily designed for track events/states with less stringent requirements?

To be "officially legal" you cannot touch anything from the air filter to the last cat.

You can get away with aftermarket cats, if they are covered by a heat shield, or it's a place they cannot see too easily.

You can away with just the primary cat, since there is no O2 sensor checking for the 2nd one. If the smog guys don't peak under and look for the 2nd one.

My plan is to run a header that retains the primary cat with a metal heat shield (I will make one if I have too). Then run a cat'd DP. I may try and fab up mounting for the 2nd cat heatshields if I find it's needed for a more stock look.

jedibow 06-21-2012 06:57 PM

B E A utiful! that is a good looking design. Will wait to see numbers, and hear exhaust note!

civicdrivr 06-21-2012 07:18 PM

Looks great. Cant wait to see dynos and videos.

Symbiont 06-21-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uspspro (Post 271359)
To be "officially legal" you cannot touch anything from the air filter to the last cat.

You can get away with aftermarket cats, if they are covered by a heat shield, or it's a place they cannot see too easily.

You can away with just the primary cat, since there is no O2 sensor checking for the 2nd one. If the smog guys don't peak under and look for the 2nd one.

My plan is to run a header that retains the primary cat with a metal heat shield (I will make one if I have too). Then run a cat'd DP. I may try and fab up mounting for the 2nd cat heatshields if I find it's needed for a more stock look.

Per this site, I'm not sure if that's completely accurate:

Quote:

California Vehicle Code Section 27156 and the Federal Clean Air Act prohibit modifications that increase motor vehicle emissions. Since if properly designed, most performance modifications do not increase vehicle emissions, these same laws also allow the installation of parts or modifications proven by their manufacturers and the ARB not to increase vehicle emissions.

Exempted parts are add-on or modified parts that have undergone an ARB engineering evaluation. If the part or modification is shown to not increase vehicle emissions, it is granted an exemption to emission control system anti-tampering laws. This exemption is called an Executive Order (EO) and allows the modification to be installed on specific emission controlled vehicles. Every Executive Order part or modification has an assigned number that can be verified by Smog Check stations, BAR Referee stations, or by the ARB.

uspspro 06-21-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 271470)
Per this site, I'm not sure if that's completely accurate:

Right, if they get CARB EO.

No mfg is going to get away with getting a CARB EO for something that messes with the stock cats.

Intakes.. sure.

Ever since they came up with the revised catalytic converter laws, you pretty much need OEM on modern cars until it is 7 + years old.

Quote:

New California Aftermarket Catalytic Converters
As of January 1st, 2009, What You Can and What You Cannot Sell/Required:

*Please Note - Installers may not install a new aftermarket catalytic converter in a vehicle unless all of the following conditions are met:

(A) The vehicle is specifically included in the vehicle application list for which the new aftermarket catalytic converter has been exempted;

(B) The vehicle is more than 7 years old or has more than 70,000 miles on its odometer;

(C) The vehicle is beyond the coverage of the OEM catalyst warranty period (which can vary from 7 years or 70,000 miles to as high as 15 years or 150,000 miles).2 Installers may reference the vehicle owner’s manual/warranty booklet or contact the vehicle manufacturer or its representative to verify the applicable OEM catalyst warranty;

(D) The vehicle has a legitimate need for replacement of the existing converter that has been established and documented by the installer on the repair invoice. If the OEM converter is present, the installer must make a determination that it is not functioning properly before acting to replace it;

(E) The exempted new aftermarket catalytic converter is installed in the same location as the OEM catalytic converter it is designed to replace. The front face of the installed catalytic converter shall be no more than three inches further upstream or downstream in the exhaust from where the front face of the OEM catalytic converter was located. The installation may not alter the location, position, or orientation of oxygen sensors upstream and downstream of the catalytic converter(s);

(F) The exempted new aftermarket catalytic converter is installed on a one-for one catalytic converter (not substrate) basis;

(G) The exempted new aftermarket catalytic converter is installed with all other required catalytic converters (no consolidation of catalytic converters, nor addition of extra catalytic converters is allowed); and

(H) A warranty card has been filled out by the installer, signed by the customer, attached to the repair invoice, and a copy returned to the manufacturer.

(I) Installers shall keep documentation regarding the installation of the new aftermarket catalytic converters including all of the above information. This documentation shall be made available to ARB or its representative as provided for in title 13, section 2222(b)(8). All such records shall be maintained for four years from the date of sale or installation of the catalytic converter.

Symbiont 06-21-2012 07:56 PM

Hey, I can dream, can't I? :(

uspspro 06-21-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 271470)
Per this site, I'm not sure if that's completely accurate:

Also, when I said "get away with" I did not mean it was exactly legal :happy0180:

Swift Racing Technologies 06-21-2012 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 271202)
Wow, that exhaust looks beautiful! Do you know if the car will have a problem with emissions with just the primary cat.?

It should pass emissions in all states except the "Peoples Republic of Californication"

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTeator (Post 271241)
Ah bummer, thought it looked nice but can't use it :/

Of course you can, why would you not be able to?

Symbiont, uspspro unfortunately with CA 99.99 % of aftermarket parts are not legal unless they are CARB EO cert'ed.

uspspro 06-21-2012 10:38 PM

People in CA can use it.. just swap it out for a couple of hours every 2 years :)


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