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mdfm1286 08-16-2015 07:25 PM

TRD big brake kit adaptation
 
Hey guys & gals!

I just recently got my RS1 and cant wait to start doing stuff to it. First things first I want to upgrade my brakes. I know that Toyota won't sell TRD calipers for my Yuzu yet but I was wondering if I could adapt the ones on any of their other models?? Let me know what you guys think.

P.S. I know allot of you are going to say (Just get brembo or stoptech or wilwood) I am considering that option but with this built I really want to stay as close as possible to Toyota parts. Plus it just seems right to have TRD brakes on a TRD model.

ryoma 08-16-2015 07:58 PM

I would advise against installing brakes developed for a different car onto your RS1. I believe Japan has a TRD brake package for some sort of special edition GT86, but the last time I heard it was extremely expensive.

humfrz 08-16-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mdfm1286 (Post 2359208)
Hey guys & gals!

I just recently got my RS1 and cant wait to start doing stuff to it. First things first I want to upgrade my brakes. I know that Toyota won't sell TRD calipers for my Yuzu yet but I was wondering if I could adapt the ones on any of their other models?? Let me know what you guys think.

P.S. I know allot of you are going to say (Just get brembo or stoptech or wilwood) I am considering that option but with this built I really want to stay as close as possible to Toyota parts. Plus it just seems right to have TRD brakes on a TRD model.

Hello mdfm1286 and welcome to our happy group ....... :clap:

Yep, I agree with @ryoma, I would't be messing with the brakes that aren't specific to the car.

So, what do you find "weak" about the OEM brakes ..... ??

Unless you're gonna track it heavy, maybe you will find the OEM brakes will stop your car just fine ..... ??



humfrz

socal_48 08-16-2015 10:42 PM

Here are some links from TRD Japan and Nigel JDM.

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/86_pe...ine/price.html

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/86_pe...rts_brake.html

http://www.nigel-jdmparts.com/toyota...n-frs-1?page=2

jflogerzi 08-16-2015 10:56 PM

At stock power your better off just getting better pads, and fluid. These are the same brakes of the 15 WRX… More weight and power. Brakes are fine.

PWBRZ 08-17-2015 02:26 AM

If you do any tracking at all changing pads and putting in good/fresh fluid are important and should suffice. Also, stainless brake lines are nice to have for a better feeling brake pedal. Next step up would be aftermarket rotors for the front - for example, DBA 4000 series. If you continue to do more tracking you might want to consider track only pads.

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2359309)
Hello mdfm1286 and welcome to our happy group ....... :clap:

Yep, I agree with @ryoma, I would't be messing with the brakes that aren't specific to the car.

So, what do you find "weak" about the OEM brakes ..... ??

Unless you're gonna track it heavy, maybe you will find the OEM brakes will stop your car just fine ..... ??



humfrz

That is exactly what I plan on doing with it. That is why upgrading my brakes and rotors is a total priority.

continuecrushing 08-17-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mdfm1286 (Post 2359983)
That is exactly what I plan on doing with it. That is why upgrading my brakes and rotors is a total priority.

how many track days have you done before?

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 03:57 PM

Thanks for the info guys. the Brake upgrade sounds to much for a stock engine but I am also planning on upgrading to boost with the Ptunning setup. Considering that I will gain allot of power from that setup I have to plan ahead on how I will stop with out brake failure due to excessive heat or not enough surface area on my discs. wheels are also something that is bothering me I bought that care with the TRD wheels on it already and did not know that they were only 7.5 wish concerns me a little.

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 2360034)
how many track days have you done before?

I haven't tracked Yuzu (on a real circuit) yet but I will soon my first time will be with stock vehicle for learning and comparison purposes. Now please don't think that I am an idiot with to much money. No this is all research and it will probably take a bit of time to be completed but it will happen.

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2359309)
Hello mdfm1286 and welcome to our happy group ....... :clap:

Yep, I agree with @ryoma, I would't be messing with the brakes that aren't specific to the car.

So, what do you find "weak" about the OEM brakes ..... ??

Unless you're gonna track it heavy, maybe you will find the OEM brakes will stop your car just fine ..... ??



humfrz

Thanks for the welcome!!! Im still learning how to use the forum lol.

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by socal_48 (Post 2359342)

Thank you so much for this info
the 6 piston mono blocks are certainly expensive

jawn 08-17-2015 04:37 PM

It's about what you'd pay for a 6-pot/4-pot Brembo front/rear kit, which if I recall correctly, is what the TRD BBK is.

continuecrushing 08-17-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdfm1286 (Post 2360121)
I haven't tracked Yuzu (on a real circuit) yet but I will soon my first time will be with stock vehicle for learning and comparison purposes. Now please don't think that I am an idiot with to much money. No this is all research and it will probably take a bit of time to be completed but it will happen.

If you haven't tracked yet, track the car FIRST. Then decide what you need/want.

ryoma 08-17-2015 05:06 PM

if you truly want a BBK, I would say go with the RR kit: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90379

it's pretty affordable with good results and it has been track tested.

however, I would personally upgrade pads, fluid, rotors (maybe), and lines (if you want) before going to the BBK. test it out on the track and see if it has enough stopping power. unless your "home" track is going to have multiple 90+ MPH straights into tight turns, I doubt you'll need a BBK even if you're boosted.

I have winmax W5 pads with RT700 fluid and SS lines when I went to SoW and it stopped me fine after I was going 90+ MPH at the end of the straight into the turn. no fade at all, even after multiple laps.

nzer 08-17-2015 05:14 PM

The only reason I'd get the TRD brakes is if you like the look of the big red calipers and want the TRD logo. Also meant my warranty was valid as my car came with them.

They are rebranded brembos as others have said. I did know the brembo model numbers but can't locate them at the moment.

There's much better value for money so logo/look/warranty would be the reasons.

Here's mine

With weds SA10R wheels
http://iforce.co.nz/i/qyjlpxwz.h1s.jpg

Being installed by Toyota
http://iforce.co.nz/i/x4kd1xc2.tgm.jpg

With original TRS SF2 wheels
http://iforce.co.nz/i/n2vbld1w.rje.jpg

.

AZP Installs 08-17-2015 05:47 PM

I wouldn't worry about the calipers and rotors if you are a Novice track driver.

However once you move up you will want a BBK.

The Stoptech ST40 has been tested over and over and is stock on most Porsche 911s so the range of pads available for it are enormous and relatively inexpensive.

We use the 328mm Kit on our Spec86 Cup race car and Project BRZ track and street car.

Pricing is very reasonable at about $1600 shipped and they are designed specifically for the BRZ/FRS including Pads, Lines, Calipers and Rotors. Hit us up if you want to talk brakes or suspension. sales@azpinstalls.com

-mike

CSG Mike 08-17-2015 07:19 PM

We can always get you a Brembo setup, that you can repaint to show TRD instead of Brembo :)

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 08:33 PM

Again guys thanks for the great info yes looks play a big role on why I want the TRD but overall performance is scrificed ill just safe a bit more. I plan on going to the limit with Yuzu.

mdfm1286 08-17-2015 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzer (Post 2360218)
The only reason I'd get the TRD brakes is if you like the look of the big red calipers and want the TRD logo. Also meant my warranty was valid as my car came with them.

They are rebranded brembos as others have said. I did know the brembo model numbers but can't locate them at the moment.

There's much better value for money so logo/look/warranty would be the reasons.

Here's mine

With weds SA10R wheels
http://iforce.co.nz/i/qyjlpxwz.h1s.jpg

Being installed by Toyota
http://iforce.co.nz/i/x4kd1xc2.tgm.jpg

With original TRS SF2 wheels
http://iforce.co.nz/i/n2vbld1w.rje.jpg

.

beautiful my friend just beautiful!!!


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