2016 BMW M2
 

So I've recently decided last week at the pub, it was pretty much me and someone else. I took the plunge yesterday and put down a deposit on a 2016 M2.


Cons:


-Appears a bit porky at ~3400-3500lbs
-Will lose down-to-earth status(always thought >30k on a car isn't sensible)
-GT350 and Hellcat will easily tack and jibe past the BMW
-Can not wear Old Navy clothes anymore(sorry Julia Louis-Dreyfus)
-Exclusivity uncertain(2017+ production is cloudy)
-Would prefer 8000+ rpm limit
-No CF roof



Pros:


-use of forced induction likely will appease many environmentalists
-arriving in a BMW gives a better 'business' appearance vs. FT-1, GT350, Hellcat, etc.)
-short-term exclusivity (only ~100 for Cdn market in 2016)
-looks great but probably not a heat score

I like it, and I really wanted to like it but... I feel like it's just too much like a M235i at first glance.

Makes it hard to justify the price difference; though I'm sure the driving experience itself is great, as M cars usually are.

Did they release pricing on the m2 already?

Please just do call it your "Bimmer"!

It costs too much money for what you get. Compared to the equivalent M3?

No. I do recall the 1M was 47K when it came out. It was approximately 10K more than the 135i. Just off the top of my head, the 235i starts at 43K so I'm guessing 55K.



I can't compare the M3 with M2 as one is a sedan and the other a coupe. It is irrelevant for most Americans but here in Canada, the 235i starts at 45K so a mere 2k difference, helps a lot.


On the topic of exchange rate, I might be wrong but European Delivery for US customers is extremely lop-sided compared to Cdn customers with the strong USD.

I've read the steering rack feel on the M3/M4 is a major disappointment. Can anyone chime in? The rack is a major component for me when deciding on a vehicle but at my age now, I can live with a 'bad' one.


As long as the steering column doesn't impale through my orbital I'm happy!

I drove the F80 M3 and I can confirm this. The steering wheel feel is very disconnected, while in sport+ mode, the steering is extremely artificially heavy, but it still feels very rubberbandery.

I owned a E90 M3 and while that steering rack wasn't the best either but it is MILES better than the F80 one. I would say the EPS in FRS is much better than the new bimmers.

I'm a little confused. Why would you put a down payment on a car you have no details on. What if the price turned out to be to high or you decide you don't like the looks??

It will be the best BMW money can buy. But even so I think it should either be cheaper or it should have more CF and S55 engine for the price they are asking.

Huge hit. Love it. Can't wait to drive one.

Working for BMW and having driven plenty of F80/F82/F83's you've read correct about the rack feel. It's an extremely artificial and uncomfortable feel at first if you're use to legitamate unadulterated road feel, but you get used to it like all things in life. What I can say is despite being disconnected the steering feels accurate as hell and the car, despite it's weight, feels extremely nimble when cornering (then again it IS a BMW). My opinion is to test drive the M235i and an F82/F83. Compare the two and see where you could splice them to get a good idea of what the new M2 will feel like; I don't see BMW deviating too much from the current M feel.

In the grand scheme of things, the car will definetly be pretty damn good and I highly doubt you'll be disappointed or regretting your decision to pick one up. BMW takes pride in their M-line.

You sound like a bankruptcy councilor! A good record I have with vehicles I've owned in my lifetime, is that they have all had good resale value.


I think it is a bit greedy to assume the M2 will have as good a resale as the 1M but I will venture to say it will be better than the M3/M4.


I've noticed with the exception of tipping, it is cheaper to dine out most of the time unless you buy cheap meats and sale items at the supermarket. It is strange, the vibe of what appears to be single people grocery shopping. It has changed in the last 10-15 years on that front and imo, it doesn't sometimes look good.


I live in a posh neighborhood where the local pub serves drinks for $3.25. That little bit helps as well.

what?

completely off topic but i agree :clap:

wow did that take a turn into the middle of nowhere, I am totally cracking up. You are right but that is too funny.

HA.

"what?" liked by "why?"

That was random....

Gayyyyyy
Like every other BMW.

What exactly makes it gayyyyy?

Everything.

groce, looks like a beefier 1 series

Can you start with one item?

Reliability

the fact that i see shit like this at least twice a day

Having driven M cars in the past (Z3, Z4, 3 series), I know that BMW will do a stellar job with the 2 series.

My girlfriend has a 228i Msport (MT) and its a fast, well sorted, quality car. That being said, I don't find it as fun to drive as the FR-S. The seating position is a bit high, the steering feel needs work (blame electric steering) and the entire ethos is somewhat removed from the GoKart style experience I prefer.

That being said, its a fast capable car even without treatment from the M engineers. It will be a treat no doubt and a proper 'm3' throwback.

It won't be a throw back. EPS and a turbo engine ruin the driving experience, compared to the BMWs that made the brand great.


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Myself and parents have owned multiple BMWs from 2000 onward that have been driven over 160000km in some cases. Not one has had a major reliability problem or repair.

I was very very interested in the M2 after owning my 135i and missing out on the 1M boat, but for the price and the amount I rake in each year its not justifiable. Plus I really like owning a convertible that weighs under 3000lbs.

That's good to hear man.
For me though, it was the other way around. I bought a BMW 335I which I after found out was one of the most unreliable BMW's on the market. I had a lot of engine issues so I got rid of it.

After paying so much money for a brand that I expected quality from I was disappointed so it's why I have a sour taste from BMW now.

If I would ever jump back into luxury cars it would be Volvo. I owned a Volvo XC90 for 5 years and never had issues. But I doubt I'll ever jump back into luxury...I'm very happy with the Accord. 60,000Km and no problems.

I hear you. I drive a S2000 and Tacoma now and both seem to be problem free and cheap to run and repair. I had more problems with my BRZ than any other car I have owned.

Both awesome rides i must say. The S2000 is one the...if not, greatest japanese RWD sports cars.
And i'm not s fan of pick up trucks, but i always told myself, if i were to ever buy one it would be the tacoma haha :cheers:

The Tacoma is great, I average 12-13L/100km around town on regular, good capability off-road with the ability to tow and haul most things I need, and its actually pretty fast with the 6 speed.

If I recall your BRZ was very heavily modded though so how many of those problems were a result of that? (not asked in anger just curious)

No it was mostly fit and finish and paint problems with the odd electrical issue here and there. Not one problem with the mods (other than some noise from the camber plates and belt system on the S/C).

Well not really huge "problems" more like dislikes then.
I was thinking like blown engine, bad tranny type things when you said you had so many problems.

Well the entire passenger side and roof of my car was repainted at 49km on the odometer due to runs in the factory paint. Dash pad never fit right and had sharp edges, drivers seat squeaked badly over sharp bumps, dome light never worked, crickets, third brake light came loose, second gear would never engage if it was below 0 Celsius outside even when warmed up, and front bumper was not lined up smooth against the headlight from the start.

Wow they must have had an off day when they built that puppy! Some of those issues I have never even heard of before much less never had myself. I think that would even put me off and I ma pretty forgiving for such things.

Yeah it really sullied my ownership time with the car and was certainly a good part of the reason I sold it.

Pretty much the reason for me and the BMW.

I loved the exterior, it was very elegant, and loved the space grey color.
The interior...it was a very nice place to sit especially on long drives...but the mechanical issues were what spoiled the short 1 year ownership unfortunately.

Speaking about our FRS/BRZ cars. My stock muffler was already rusting even though I didn't even drive the car in the winter and this is the 2015 model :bonk:
Though I think the 2015 model had a lot of problems fixed, like the taillights fogging up etc...

And I do agree, the paint is very cheap. I have like these 2 chip marks on my rear bumper...not sure from what...maybe the wind was strong haha :lol: