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Demandred7 08-01-2015 12:05 AM
Take with a gigantic grain of salt
 
I know this is not normally a publication that has a lot of credibility, but....., I'm pulling the trigger and posting it anyway.

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015...-next-86-52888

and this other page that cites it, but, at least translates the power figures into something that North Americans understand:

http://artofgears.com/2015/07/31/rum...gine-for-fr-s/

Tcoat 08-01-2015 12:15 AM
You drunk there Dem?
Motoring Au is fiction at best.

Tromatic 08-01-2015 12:18 AM
LOL. Regardless, the car started so strongly there is nowhere to go but down.

"It's speculated a concept for the next 86 will debut during 2017, with production models appearing in showrooms by 2020 for around 2.5 million yen."

2500000 Japanese Yen equals 20174.3250 US Dollar

OFT, E85 and a Phantom. Done.

Rampage 08-01-2015 12:20 AM
Oh, what a surprise, another 86 rumor started by motoring.com.au. Even complete idiots will eventually get something right if they keep guessing long enough. I really wonder about the rest of the internet sites who constantly pick up their drivel and repeat it as if it is actually from a news source.

I will not even click on it to read it because I refuse to add to their "click" count.

Bergen23 08-01-2015 12:30 AM
First article claims that the twins have "beefy low to mid range torque"

Lol wut

Demandred7 08-01-2015 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2342640)
You drunk there Dem?
Motoring Au is fiction at best.
:lol:they don't let me drink at work :cry:

Just amazed at the audacity of the claims and the pictures of Japanese clippings are a nice touch too.

How other sites quote them is just beyond belief.

Definitely fiction, I guess I'm just bored at work. Almost done though.

Demandred7 08-01-2015 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 2342648)
Oh, what a surprise, another 86 rumor started by motoring.com.au. Even complete idiots will eventually get something right if they keep guessing long enough. I really wonder about the rest of the internet sites who constantly pick up their drivel and repeat it as if it is actually from a news source.

I will not even click on it to read it because I refuse to add to their "click" count.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself for posting. Needed a distraction.

funwheeldrive 08-01-2015 12:38 AM
It's an interesting article. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some truth in there.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2342664)
It's an interesting article. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some truth in there.
Always the optimist. If there is one bit of "truth" it is purely by accident.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2342660)
:lol:they don't let me drink at work :cry:

Just amazed at the audacity of the claims and the pictures of Japanese clippings are a nice touch too.

How other sites quote them is just beyond belief.

Definitely fiction, I guess I'm just bored at work. Almost done though.
Drugs?
Well at least you woke everybody up.

Demandred7 08-01-2015 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2342667)
Drugs?
Well at least you woke everybody up.
Lol, honestly, I wish I was in bed sleeping.

I'll be done within the hour.

Then I can have a good dram. No promises on what craziness I'll be posting then.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2342669)
Lol, honestly, I wish I was in bed sleeping.

I'll be done within the hour.

Then I can have a good dram. No promises on what craziness I'll be posting then.
This one will be hard to top.
Should be a fun ride though. Now we just have to keep track of how many people post the same thing.

Bergen23 08-01-2015 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2342671)
This one will be hard to top.
Should be a fun ride though. Now we just have to keep track of how many people post the same thing.
Seriously though, I get home after 20 days, forgetting my car is getting warranty work done and it's not at home, so I was a little bummed out. Came on here to get a last minute fix before bed and this is the drivel I log on to? It's guaranteed there'll be a repost of this.

I'm just glad it was posted with "take with a grain of salt" and not "omg! 2017 frs is gunna be bomb diggity, yo"

Demandred7 08-01-2015 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergen23 (Post 2342674)
Seriously though, I get home after 20 days, forgetting my car is getting warranty work done and it's not at home, so I was a little bummed out. Came on here to get a last minute fix before bed and this is the drivel I log on to? It's guaranteed there'll be a repost of this.

I'm just glad it was posted with "take with a grain of salt" and not "omg! 2017 frs is gunna be bomb diggity, yo"
I am far too old to be a dudebro, but, then you already knew that.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2342676)
I am far too old to be a dudebro.
Nobody is too old for a dudebro!

Demandred7 08-01-2015 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2342679)
Nobody is too old for a dudebro!
So you're saying its a state of mind and not an age....?

I always thought that they went hand-in-hand.

extrashaky 08-01-2015 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2342629)
I know this is not normally a publication that has a lot of credibility...]
Then don't fucking post it.

m.box.design 08-01-2015 01:20 AM
The new scion iA is a mazda 2 with a different bumper. Toyota is also adopting the skyactiv from Mazda which is speculated to be used in the next Yaris.

Somebody probably got drunk and overspeculated this sharing between mazda and toyota to include the 86.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2342681)
So you're saying its a state of mind and not an age....?

I always thought that they went hand-in-hand.
No way dudebro.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by indesign (Post 2342685)
The new scion iA is a mazda 2 with a different bumper. Toyota is also adopting the skyactiv from Mazda which is speculated to be used in the next Yaris.

Somebody probably got drunk and overspeculated this sharing between mazda and toyota to include the 86.
Overspeculated. Love the word. Should be in motoring's motto.

mav1178 08-01-2015 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2342645)

2500000 Japanese Yen equals 20174.3250 US Dollar
http://www.subaru.jp/brz/brz/grade/
http://toyota.jp/86/grade/
The actual production cars all start around ~2.5 million yen.

The USD > JPY conversion rate should not be a gauge of actual car price across different regions. You need to consider local PPP to determine whether the car pricing is the same or not.

Just because it sells for ~$20k USD in Japan doesn't mean MSRP will be $20k.

-alex

soulreapersteve 08-01-2015 01:45 AM
Free shipping takes too long.

First world issues.

Demandred7 08-01-2015 02:21 AM
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Then don't fucking post it.
Wow:flame:

Tcoat 08-01-2015 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2342713)
Wow:flame:
Dudebro what did you expect? I mean really you had to know what would go down as soon as you said motoring wrote it.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2342699)
http://www.subaru.jp/brz/brz/grade/
http://toyota.jp/86/grade/
The actual production cars all start around ~2.5 million yen.

The USD > JPY conversion rate should not be a gauge of actual car price across different regions. You need to consider local PPP to determine whether the car pricing is the same or not.

Just because it sells for ~$20k USD in Japan doesn't mean MSRP will be $20k.

-alex
Thank you! I have had this debate with the Canadian rates many times and nobody seems to get it. You cannot just take foreign values, convert to American dollars and call it even since there are 100s of factors involved. In Japan a yen is a yen and converting it to dollars means nothing unless you are paying in them.

Demandred7 08-01-2015 08:55 AM
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Dudebro what did you expect? I mean really you had to know what would go down as soon as you said motoring wrote it.
Man, what was I thinking last night? I guess I should hit myself with this:

Brndn704 08-01-2015 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2342682)
Then don't fucking post it.
extrashaky? More like extraMOODY. :mad0260:

Bergen23 08-01-2015 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2342679)
Nobody is too old for a dudebro!
I'd like to say you were a dudebro in your younger years, but I know how most army guys are. Fucking weirdos.

Everyone joins because they don't fit in, and they'd rather spend every waking moment being yelled at and berated for doing weak ass push-ups. Or maybe that was just me.

Tcoat 08-01-2015 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergen23 (Post 2342823)
I'd like to say you were a dudebro in your younger years, but I know how most army guys are. Fucking weirdos.

Everyone joins because they don't fit in, and they'd rather spend every waking moment being yelled at and berated for doing weak ass push-ups. Or maybe that was just me.
Just you. I was never once berated for anything in the first half and did the yelling and berating in the second.

cdq85 08-01-2015 10:53 AM
so all this time, we actually DO have beefy low to mid-range power. I've been avoiding 3500-4500 rpm's for no reason.....damn

Datcrazyeric 08-01-2015 12:30 PM
"Subaru, is throwing shade on the entire Toyota 86 project altogether. A few Subaru executives are upset that Toyota’s 86 has watered down Subaru’s image of boxer engines and all-wheel drive systems."

Stopped reading once I got to this point.

extrashaky 08-01-2015 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Datcrazyeric (Post 2342908)
Stopped reading once I got to this point.
I stopped reading when I saw "motoring.com.au." Anything posted on that site is complete horseshit. It's the Weekly World News for the automotive industry. Next they'll be telling us Bat Boy was sighted driving a BRZ.

Datcrazyeric 08-01-2015 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2342928)
I stopped reading when I saw "motoring.com.au." Anything posted on that site is complete horseshit. It's the Weekly World News for the automotive industry. Next they'll be telling us Bat Boy was sighted driving a BRZ.
Its the automotive online article version of The Onion.

Kinda reminds me of that quote from MIB when K says "Sometimes they get lucky"

GreenMonster 08-01-2015 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2342664)
It's an interesting article. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some truth in there.
It's click bait, but toyota is working w/ mazda on other projects. The next gen Yaris is going to be based on the Mazda 2.

2020 is a long ways off, so anything is possible...


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