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mabviper 07-29-2015 12:08 PM

Ferodo DS2500 installation issues
 
I installed my DS2500 pads (front and rear) last night. The rear ones didn't have any issues with installation. Although, I had to take the oem shims out since I couldn't close the caliper.

The front pads, though, gave me some issues. Even without the oem shims, the calipers did not want to close. I didn't get a chance to check my rotor thickness but I've used it for 2 years with numerous autox and track days. I had to get off maybe 1mm of material from the guide pin to get it to close.

Did anybody have this issue? Thanks!

endless_pain 07-29-2015 12:29 PM

Are you sure the pistons are retracted all the way?
You can try opening the nipple and pushing the piston a little more.

mabviper 07-29-2015 12:31 PM

Oh, the pistons where retracted just fine. It goes over both pads. It's the guide pin that was preventing me from closing the caliper. :(

Cuchullain 07-29-2015 01:18 PM

I just put on DS2500 pads about a month ago with no problems. I didn't use the OEM shims either, but I probably could've :iono:

wparsons 07-29-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mabviper (Post 2339121)
Oh, the pistons where retracted just fine. It goes over both pads. It's the guide pin that was preventing me from closing the caliper. :(

What do you mean "closing the caliper"?

FrX 07-29-2015 02:44 PM

I was able to use all the OEM shims perfectly fine with DS2500's. I ran into no issues installing them.

mabviper 07-29-2015 02:56 PM

@wparson, I meant putting the caliper back to where I can install the slide pin bolt.

I should've measured the thickness of the pad prior to installing them. Seems like there's no issues w/ installing the pads with oem shims. I'll check it again after work to see if there's something blocking the slide pins from going in more.

Once I got them installed though, there's no binding.

wparsons 07-29-2015 03:08 PM

Are they blocking the caliper from going far enough onto the pads, or are you just having trouble lining up the slider bolt hole? Were the rotors coming unseated on the hub, making things line up funny?

Any time I've swapped pads, the caliper will actually slide on further than needed so you need to wiggle it around to find the spot where the holes actually line up.

mabviper 07-29-2015 04:23 PM

Yup, that would be it. The slide pin was blocking the caliper from lining up. The rotors seemed like it was seated properly, though I'll check it again. I don't really know what else it could be causing it. It might be the slide pins not going in enough though the exact same problem happened in both left and right sides. :(

Mad_Mike 07-29-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mabviper (Post 2339528)
Yup, that would be it. The slide pin was blocking the caliper from lining up. The rotors seemed like it was seated properly, though I'll check it again. I don't really know what else it could be causing it. It might be the slide pins not going in enough though the exact same problem happened in both left and right sides. :(

Confirm the pins are on the top? Maybe you were putting the inside ones on the outside and vice versa?

wparsons 07-29-2015 06:53 PM

The pads don't have an inside or outside...

Any pictures of it when it's not lining up? Did you try pulling the slider boot in a bit so the caliper will slide down further?

I find it's a bit annoying to line up the slider bolts, but I've never had an issue of getting the caliper on far enough. I'm on my 2nd set of DS2500's on the front, and swap between stock pads and the DS2500's every winter/summer.

White64Goat 07-29-2015 07:31 PM

How do you think those pads perform for non-track usage? I was considering them for D.D. and some track/auto x use and somewhere in the Ferodo literature it said they were NOT for street use, so I didn't go that route. Still on stock.

Mad_Mike 07-30-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2339775)
The pads don't have an inside or outside...

My bad, didn't know the ds2500's don't have those pins like stock.

zkv476 07-30-2015 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 2339809)
How do you think those pads perform for non-track usage? I was considering them for D.D. and some track/auto x use and somewhere in the Ferodo literature it said they were NOT for street use, so I didn't go that route. Still on stock.

Quite the dust monsters if you like to keep it clean, especially if your wheels are brighter. Mine are silver. I dd on them just fine though, and they feel great.

RFB 07-30-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 2339809)
How do you think those pads perform for non-track usage? I was considering them for D.D. and some track/auto x use and somewhere in the Ferodo literature it said they were NOT for street use, so I didn't go that route. Still on stock.


I had no trouble with the ferodo's as a daily driver, other than dusting of course.


:cheers:

kodyo 07-30-2015 07:03 PM

I also DD with ferodo DS2500s without any issues. No cold braking issues or fade on the track. Was able to reuse both OEM shims with no issues. They are a bit heavy on the dust in my opinion, but it doesn't really bother me that much.

Panman 07-31-2015 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kodyo (Post 2341068)
I also DD with ferodo DS2500s without any issues. No cold braking issues or fade on the track. Was able to reuse both OEM shims with no issues. They are a bit heavy on the dust in my opinion, but it doesn't really bother me that much.

Exactly my experience:

Reused OEM Shims.

Great cold and hot bite, and fine for middling track use and driving to and from.

Overheated them once during their life and they were very thin on material at that point.

Fantastic Pads.

No issues with fitting.

wparsons 07-31-2015 10:18 AM

They're pretty easy to overheat once you have some track experience depending on the track, butfor street and autox they're fantastic. Not bad for a couple hot laps, or lapping at 85% either.

drewbot 07-31-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2341684)
They're pretty easy to overheat once you have some track experience depending on the track, butfor street and autox they're fantastic. Not bad for a couple hot laps, or lapping at 85% either.

Even at my experience level, my PMu HC+800's (same hybrid category) were overheated by lap 3 at DDT (2 kink)

Gearhead1 08-25-2015 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2341684)
They're pretty easy to overheat once you have some track experience depending on the track, butfor street and autox they're fantastic. Not bad for a couple hot laps, or lapping at 85% either.

I have no trouble with the DS 2500's on either lapping days or as a dd (except for the dusting). Initially I had problems at the track with overheating, but since adding RooDucts Fan Ducts, those problems are history. Night and day difference. The only other brake system mod I have is RBF 600 fluid. 40 minute sessions at 90+F are now no problem.


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