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FT86_Zero 06-19-2012 11:03 PM

TEST DRIVE!!!AND LOTS OF PICS
 
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I tested a Blue Auto GTS in Toyota Glebe.....one word to describe - PERFECT!!

The pictures look awesome right? as they were captured by DSLR.....just for the 86!!!

FT86_Zero 06-19-2012 11:06 PM

and folks please be advised DON' choose GT, the interior quality will make you disappointed!! Trust me

Gir 06-19-2012 11:06 PM

So glad I chose blue.

JiB 06-19-2012 11:27 PM

How'd it drive?

shaoster 06-19-2012 11:31 PM

mmm ... time to rock up to the Glebe dealership :)

FT86_Zero 06-19-2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JiB (Post 267581)
How'd it drive?

I said it is perfect!

Just go and test it yourself!! You will find out!!

Nardi330 06-19-2012 11:50 PM

man, how to modify the front plate holder for slimline plate.....

Toy86 06-19-2012 11:55 PM

THanks for the pics man, Does glebe delaership have a manual demo car?

Gir 06-20-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FT86_Zero (Post 267544)
and folks please be advised DON' choose GT, the interior quality will make you disappointed!! Trust me

I really liked the GT interior, but I can tell it will be a big opinion point for people.

davey90 06-20-2012 12:16 AM

@FT86_Zero,bet you didn't want to get out of the car right? LOL! I was in a Black GT one before (shown on my Avatar <---), going into a White GTS This Saturday. Can't wait!

EDIT: not testing thist Saturday =( Car not in till Tuesday.... :sigh:

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy86 (Post 267622)
THanks for the pics man, Does glebe delaership have a manual demo car?

Not at the moment, probably later......Give them a call to book a test driving...If you just go there, maybe you won't have a chance to test...I saw a man did this today..haha...My friend is working there, therefore lucky for me...

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 267612)
man, how to modify the front plate holder for slimline plate.....

Not too sure .......:mad0259:

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gir (Post 267632)
I really liked the GT interior, but I can tell it will be a big opinion point for people.

hey man, have you seen a real GT? I bet if you see you won't get it....:D

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by davey90 (Post 267665)
@FT86_Zero,bet you didn't want to get out of the car right? LOL! I was in a Black GT one before (shown on my Avatar <---), going into a White GTS This Saturday. Can't wait!

:happy0180: You know...haha..and the sound of engine is just awesome..

Gir 06-20-2012 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FT86_Zero (Post 267704)
hey man, have you seen a real GT? I bet if you see you won't get it....:D

Drove one last night. I'll admit I haven't been in a GTS yet, but I really loved the minimalist feel of the GT.

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gir (Post 267762)
Drove one last night. I'll admit I haven't been in a GTS yet, but I really loved the minimalist feel of the GT.

You'd better to see a GTS, I bet the GT won't bother you anymore...haha:D

dangerfield 06-20-2012 12:55 AM

That blue looks really really good!

All these pics are such a tease, can't wait to pick up my car already. I've just been told this morning that it's going to take a few extra days for my 86 gts to be ready which sucks major balls.. already made plans for a bit of a cruise this weekend but that won't happen now! >_<

LeftFootBrake 06-20-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gir (Post 267762)
...I really loved the minimalist feel of the GT.

Sashimi = Minimalist
GT = Cheap interior
GTS = Barely acceptable interior (clock from the 80's, open centre storage, no electric driver's seat with memory, no steering wheel controls, ...)

Check out the interior of something like the Veloster if you want to see what it should look like. The Koreans are beating the Japanese at interior design imo.
Even the Americans are doing better! And when it comes to interior functionality, there really isn't a case that better functionality and usability requires more weight. The same weight of silicon is required for a nokia as an iPhone, for example, despite the drastically different experience provided.

IMO, the interior is going to be this car's resale value achilles heel. I expect refreshes will revamp it. That's assuming Toyota have realised their interiors are one of their biggest weaknesses. And given they are part of the iPhone car integration programme, I imagine it's not lost on them.

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dangerfield (Post 267778)
That blue looks really really good!

All these pics are such a tease, can't wait to pick up my car already. I've just been told this morning that it's going to take a few extra days for my 86 gts to be ready which sucks major balls.. already made plans for a bit of a cruise this weekend but that won't happen now! >_<

HOHO, be patient, your baby girl is coming soon....:D

Nardi330 06-20-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267793)
Sashimi = Minimalist
GT = Cheap interior
GTS = Barely acceptable interior (clock from the 80's, open centre storage, no electric driver's seat with memory, no steering wheel controls, ...)

Check out the interior of something like the Veloster if you want to see what it should look like. The Koreans are beating the Japanese at interior design imo.
Even the Americans are doing better! And when it comes to interior functionality, there really isn't a case that better functionality and usability requires more weight. The same weight of silicon is required for a nokia as an iPhone, for example, despite the drastically different experience provided.

IMO, the interior is going to be this car's resale value achilles heel. I expect refreshes will revamp it. That's assuming Toyota have realised their interiors are one of their biggest weaknesses. And given they are part of the iPhone car integration programme, I imagine it's not lost on them.

i guess you know the purpose of this car and if the stuff you pointed out worries you then you probably should wait for the Veloster Turbo??!!

i like the simplisity of the interior. similar in concept to cars like the JDM Type Rs, GT3 RS etc. simple, functional and focusing on the driving experience.

Devie 06-20-2012 01:14 AM

Wow these pictures are making me think about getting a blue instead of white. Cheers chief.

Raz555 06-20-2012 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 267612)
man, how to modify the front plate holder for slimline plate.....

Yeah I'm wondering the same. Hopefully that plate mount will come off and someone will make a slimline mount using the same holes.

Nardi330 06-20-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Raz555 (Post 267818)
Yeah I'm wondering the same. Hopefully that plate mount will come off and someone will make a slimline mount using the same holes.

it should be able to unbolt it and come off but there seems to be something holding the thing to the grill.

i hope this is not the case. if the holder comes off without any issues i'll probably try to mount the plate directly to the bumper. hope the holes will match but i doubt it. or cut the bottom half of the holder off and mount the plate like normal.

anyway who will see the car soon, please investigate this for the community.

thanks.

mark 06-20-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267793)
Sashimi = Minimalist
GT = Cheap interior
GTS = Barely acceptable interior (clock from the 80's, open centre storage, no electric driver's seat with memory, no steering wheel controls, ...)

Check out the interior of something like the Veloster if you want to see what it should look like. The Koreans are beating the Japanese at interior design imo.
Even the Americans are doing better! And when it comes to interior functionality, there really isn't a case that better functionality and usability requires more weight. The same weight of silicon is required for a nokia as an iPhone, for example, despite the drastically different experience provided.

IMO, the interior is going to be this car's resale value achilles heel. I expect refreshes will revamp it. That's assuming Toyota have realised their interiors are one of their biggest weaknesses. And given they are part of the iPhone car integration programme, I imagine it's not lost on them.


seriously? you want an electric drivers seat? you do realise they weigh a lot!. :thumbdown: steering wheel controls would be pointless as im sure a few people would rather swap the wheel for a nardi DD...

im glad that they didnt include it. I wouldnt have paid for it. why put up the RRP for these extras which detract from the overall persona of the car..? I personally wouldnt wish for such additions:thumbsup:

LeftFootBrake 06-20-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mark (Post 267825)
seriously? you want an electric drivers seat? you do realise they weigh a lot!. :thumbdown:

The electric seat was just one example, and not worthy of being picked on to underpin my point. Regardless, I was waiting for the "weight penalty" response. It's certainly not lost on me that it would add a weight penalty, so make everyone happy and have it as an option. It's a bit like the crowd who don't think this car should come with an option to select gears by using a flappy paddle. I think they're sadly mistaken as a result of being too narrow minded regarding the target demographics of the product.

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steering wheel controls would be pointless as im sure a few people would rather swap the wheel for a nardi DD...
I don't know what a "nardi DD" is, sorry. But I can assure you that they are not pointless for the majority. That's why the majority (all except the 86?) of cars at this price point have them.

If we wanted pure track day cars, we wouldn't be buying brand new cars, surely? Performance can be added relatively cheaply to second hand platforms. Instead, I pay for a brand new design that gets the balance between the various dimensions right. I'm not suggesting they haven't done a sterling job with this car. They have. And that's why I preordered one at the start of the year. But I'm also not suggesting it's anything like done yet. Particularly the interior. Having said all that, the GTS interior I have seen is a bit better than what I was actually anticipating, given the FR-S photos on this forum.

Nardi330 06-20-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267851)
I don't know what a "nardi DD" is, sorry.

that's me lol

http://www.tunersgroup.com/images/large/large926.jpg

Gir 06-20-2012 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267793)
Sashimi = Minimalist
GT = Cheap interior
GTS = Barely acceptable interior (clock from the 80's, open centre storage, no electric driver's seat with memory, no steering wheel controls, ...)

Check out the interior of something like the Veloster if you want to see what it should look like. The Koreans are beating the Japanese at interior design imo.
Even the Americans are doing better! And when it comes to interior functionality, there really isn't a case that better functionality and usability requires more weight. The same weight of silicon is required for a nokia as an iPhone, for example, despite the drastically different experience provided.

IMO, the interior is going to be this car's resale value achilles heel. I expect refreshes will revamp it. That's assuming Toyota have realised their interiors are one of their biggest weaknesses. And given they are part of the iPhone car integration programme, I imagine it's not lost on them.

My 80's Honda has all the extra luxury crap, and I'm over it. I never use 90% of it, and it makes the car feel complicated and bloated.

I want a car to drive, and that's it. The GT does it perfectly.

Minovsky 06-20-2012 01:45 AM

sigh scion really bad at doing things why they make the break handle stitching different and why no hid -.- who the fk made tht decision anyways Good pics! wish it was toyota instead of scion in canada and us -.-

FT86_Zero 06-20-2012 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 267863)

Hahaha:happyanim:

davey90 06-20-2012 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 267612)
man, how to modify the front plate holder for slimline plate.....

is slimline the Premium plates

like this?

LeftFootBrake 06-20-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 267807)
i like the simplisity of the interior. similar in concept to cars like the JDM Type Rs, GT3 RS etc. simple, functional and focusing on the driving experience.

I can appreciate where you are coming from. (fwiw, I'll be surprised to hear you enjoy the analogue speedo with the ridiculously small spacing, for example, but only time will tell.)

I think it's a bit weird that Tadasan spent time and effort on a frameless mirror whilst simultaneously agreeing, for example, to a clock straight from the 80's and a poorly designed analogue speedo. Just seems a bit odd to me, sorry.

Devie 06-20-2012 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267851)
The electric seat was just one example, and not worthy of being picked on to underpin my point. Regardless, I was waiting for the "weight penalty" response. It's certainly not lost on me that it would add a weight penalty, so make everyone happy and have it as an option. It's a bit like the crowd who don't think this car should come with an option to select gears by using a flappy paddle. I think they're sadly mistaken as a result of being too narrow minded regarding the target demographics of the product.


I don't know what a "nardi DD" is, sorry. But I can assure you that they are not pointless for the majority. That's why the majority (all except the 86?) of cars at this price point have them.

If we wanted pure track day cars, we wouldn't be buying brand new cars, surely? Performance can be added relatively cheaply to second hand platforms. Instead, I pay for a brand new design that gets the balance between the various dimensions right. I'm not suggesting they haven't done a sterling job with this car. They have. And that's why I preordered one at the start of the year. But I'm also not suggesting it's anything like done yet. Particularly the interior. Having said all that, the GTS interior I have seen is a bit better than what I was actually anticipating, given the FR-S photos on this forum.

The only thing I would've prefered they kept was the steering wheel buttons. Although in my mini the ribbon connecting the buttons to the car snapped, and before it snapped steering was very, very stiff, and going around a tight slow corner in a drive thru is where it snapped. If that snapped in a faster corner, it could've ended badly.
Also in the mini, it was $700 for the replacement part, not including install.

Electric seats in a 2dr coupe is USELESS. They take too long to move around.

I sat in the GT yesterday. I didn't mind it at all. I'll be driving the GTS on saturday.

dangerfield 06-20-2012 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by davey90 (Post 267873)
is slimline the Premium plates

like this?

Yeah pretty much same size but the standard white background and black text.

I was hoping getting custom premium plates were options when getting the new car registered but apparently you can't, have to wait until after you drive away. :thumbdown:

I'm getting that exact style though (black & red), will look epic on Tornado Grey!

davey90 06-20-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dangerfield (Post 267886)
Yeah pretty much same size but the standard white background and black text.

I was hoping getting custom premium plates were options when getting the new car registered but apparently you can't, have to wait until after you drive away. :thumbdown:

I'm getting that exact style though (black & red), will look epic on Tornado Grey!

Ahhh! ok, when i get my car it comes with Premium plates. so i'm not sure if they are going to put the premium plates on a standard plates holder or they have a premium plate holder. hmm...

LeftFootBrake 06-20-2012 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Devie (Post 267885)
Electric seats in a 2dr coupe is USELESS. They take too long to move around.

I'd argue the number of seats don't matter.

EDIT: sorry, misread your point about the number doors (doh!). I take your point on speed of moving the seat to enable rear passengers. But I expect usage of the rear seat on the driver's side happens infrequently enough to be offset by the advantages when you get it right and integrate rear-vision and side-mirrors and trigger them with the proximity keyfob, everything's done before you sit down. So on a performance comparison, electric absolutely smashes manual except when you have someone behind the driver. Not to mention reducing the effort of tuning everything to your tastes just once.

I'm also the first to agree that electric seats done badly are far worse than having manual. And most electric implementations, particularly historically, have been shocking. So if the choice was only between manual or crappy electric, they're chosen wisely. But then you have to ask why was crappy electric the only alternative?

But guys, I'm not hung up on the seats, so please stop picking just on that example. :)

Quote:

Although in my mini...edited...
I'm pretty sure Mini are renowned as being just about the most unreliable car on the planet, so I can understand if you've been burnt by reliability and they're euro so again I can understand the cost smack. :) Love the car other than that aspect. But don't want to see that emotional baggage carried across to a manufacturer with a reputation for reliability. :)

Anyway, I never intended to write so much on the interior design or be seen to be ruthlessly bashing it. This thread is about other matters.

Varvs 06-20-2012 02:09 AM

Cousin has a 350GT with electric seats. takes you 3 minutes to get someone into the back seat.

my 180 has regular rail seats and it takes you 5 seconds.


No wheel controls was disappointing news but honestly as long as your head unit isnt touch screen and you have some tactile feedback you dont need to concentrate too hard. I can change gears and tracks at the same time pretty easily in my car (probably due to the close proximity of those two devices but my point stands)

and for those planning on fitting "omg sweet nardis" you will be breaking compliance by removing your airbag. just a heads up.

LeftFootBrake 06-20-2012 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dangerfield (Post 267886)
I was hoping getting custom premium plates were options when getting the new car registered but apparently you can't, have to wait until after you drive away. :thumbdown:

I'm not sure what the situation is with "premium plates" in NSW at the moment but every brand new car I've bought previously had slimline black and white plates when it drove off the lot. So I'm confused by this comment.

Nardi330 06-20-2012 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267878)
I can appreciate where you are coming from. (fwiw, I'll be surprised to hear you enjoy the analogue speedo with the ridiculously small spacing, for example, but only time will tell.)

I think it's a bit weird that Tadasan spent time and effort on a frameless mirror whilst simultaneously agreeing, for example, to a clock straight from the 80's and a poorly designed analogue speedo. Just seems a bit odd to me, sorry.

re. the speedo, i agree and that's why i got the GTS and all BRZ have the digital speedo regardless of grade.

re. the clock, it guess cost needs to be cut somewhere and i don't really mind with such trival item.

Varvs 06-20-2012 02:17 AM

the clock is fine. what do you want, some kind of whale bone-faced analog time piece with swiss movement?

dangerfield 06-20-2012 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake (Post 267908)
I'm not sure what the situation is with "premium plates" in NSW at the moment but every brand new car I've bought previously had slimline black and white plates when it drove off the lot. So I'm confused by this comment.

The keyword was "custom" haha. Don't have a choice in colours or content.. Oh well.


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