FRS won't rev passed 2.5 for launch.
 

Hey guys. I'm new here. Also, this is my first actual car I've been building on my own and I'm a noob to all these (forgive me). I currently own a 2013 FR-S AT (I know, I know.. should've got MT) and I noticed it won't let me rev passed 2.5k when I'm holding the break down.. This sucks so much because I can't burn out or launch. The other day I somewhat did a burn out by holding the break all the way down, letting it go little by little and flooring the gas. I had VSC off and it just fishtailed forward but I can't do it anymore.. help!!! I feel like my car loses power every once in a while. I'll step on the gas all the way down and it takes forever for it to accelerate.. any help with that? thanks guys. I appreciate the help

what mode did you have the transmission set in?



and why are you doing burnouts?

I usually move them around. I'll sometimes have it in the manual mode. I notice the only way for me to get torque is to down shift and floor the gas.. other wise the car takes so long to rev up. I'm getting new wheels tomorrow so figured I might as well have fun with my Prius tires. lol

weird, the manual transmissions require this method too... must be something wrong with the twins!

LOL at burnouts in this car.

You cannot rev past 2.5k because you have reached the "brake stall" speed of the torque converter.

Here is a good explanation what that means:

http://hughesperformance.com/index.p...=1:latest-news

And here is a thread on what to buy to get past that (new torque converter):

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53020

is there a way to bypass that without spending that much money? Like a fuse/chip that can be removed? I know there's a way by easing off the break a bit.

try starting your burnout by turning.. like a mini donut.


oh wait.. that's drifting.

I'm pretty sure this is a standard safety feature on all Toyota AT-transmission cars after the TOYOTA: "MOVING FORWARD" incidents.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1268270584.jpg

that was proven to be a giant hoax..

ohhhh silly americans, blaming their own inability to drive on the car..

I didn't know you could do a burn out on a twin. I have mt and I've never been able to do one, there's a bit of wheel spin but that's about it.

To impress those freshman high school girls, duh.

No, it is a mechanical / design limitation.

Here's some more information on how a torque converter works, and why there is a stall speed:

http://www.sonnax.com/articles/90-Hi...ction-and-More

Hey, it was enough for them to release firmware updates on my parent's Highlander so it could only rev to around 2k with the brake on. It was enough to get sued over it. It was enough for them to change their motto.

Whether you're joking or not, it's really hard to tell... _/(*-*)\_

Buy skinny rear tires and turn the AC off.

You're not trying hard enough. Dump the clutch after 5.5k - 6k RPM, you'll get the wheels going.

I can see this quickly becoming my new fav thread :popcorn:

yeah lol@ burn out on twin. trying to show off?

Make sure you press the brake pedal lighter then gas it.

Back in my day a burn out consisted of just flooring it at launch and spinning the tires really fast. This was impressive.
Holding the brakes and spinning the tires was a brake stand. This is what you did in Daddy's Buick and only impressed non car folks.
Has this changed?
Is my terminology all screwed up now?

http://i.imgur.com/vzpla.jpg

Sometimes I wonder in here why questions are not just simply answered and when other members don't have an answer or guess, harassment is given instead. I see this as a very common thing in here the more I sift through the site and try and learn about the car. A little joking is fine here and there but some people take it too far when others are just looking for an honest answer. Not every seemingly silly question is not a call to troll. There are some drivers out there with this car being their first. This isn't my first car but I still didn't understand why the car was holding back at the 2-2.k RPM mark either until I found the thread in here below I posted. I don't see why when this subject comes up, some people act like this is a new concept. Whether people want to believe it or not holding the brake and giving it gas does indeed make the car leave a little quicker off the line. It is the same as holding the car at 4k and dropping the clutch on a manual.
This is not that hard to understand here. Up until this car every one of the automatic vehicles(multiple car, trucks,vans) I have owned were able to have the the brake and gas pressed at the same time and you release the brake at any RPM you want to "launch" the vehicle.

To the OP, this thread gives you exactly the answer you are looking for: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8283 You just have to mess around with it and learn to find the sweet spot where it lets you get past that 2-2.5 RPM mark it seems. Several people describe how it's done in there.

Edit: Fixed link

BRAKE.

I tried to do a burnout one time.

I blew the tranny.

Finally, someone who understands. It's fun to see people joking but it sucks wanting to find an answer and not being able to find it. Thank you so much for your help. I knew there was a way because I did it once and I spent all day last night trying and I couldn't get it.. I'll look into it! thank you:thanks:

wait the link sends me back to this thread

He is a master troll.

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You obv didn't search that hard.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=FRS+auto+launch

Hmmmm..... is OP troll???

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92020

no.. I'm not lying. I literally just got my FRS two weeks ago. I know small things like suspension and what not but I don't know much about the engine and stuff like that. I joined this forum to learn more about my car and not feel stupid.

Don't worry, we were all ignorant at some point. I have found this forum to be a treasure trove of information. It took some time, but going through all the stickied posts and popular threads gave me all the knowledge I have today.

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Well here is a real piece of advice.... Always search before you ask. It will help prevent you from getting :flame:

wait were you saying I was a master troll or the guy that sent me that link..

OP, like you, I was very new to a lot of this stuff when I first joined this site. I do agree, people here are a little quick to just assume you're trolling if you ask a simple question that has already been asked and answered multiple times. With that being said, there is A TON of great information on this site. I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned scrolling through 100's of different threads on here. The search feature in this site kinda sucks, but if you use Google and limit the search results to ones just from this site, you can find an answer to almost any question you may have.

Anyway, also like you, I have a 13 AT FR-S, and wanted to try and learn how to launch it too. Like others above have said, it can be done, you just have to find the brake "sweet spot" and you can get it to rev out passed 2.5k RPM. I tried it a few times, but the transmission doesn't seem to like it too much. IMHO, I would steer clear of trying to launch the car using the brake and gas method, and if you really want to/need to launch it, just slam on the gas pedal. You will get about the same results anyway.

:burnrubber:

-J.B.

There is a very easy way to launch this car in higher rpm's... neutral drop.




I said its a very easy way, not a very smart way.

That was how I used to launch my old 64 Implala with the 327 and Powerglide tranny. Mind you the tranny only had two speeds and they were as sloppy as hell so never hurt it. The diff on the other hand...

Dude if you read through this forum you would know why people think you are trolling! If I had a dollar for every guy that posted one time with something like that just to get everybody going I could probably buy a round for the crew here.


You will find that we can actually be a pretty good crowd and help when we can. Read what already exists, learn from it and pick somebody to point you in the right directions and all will go well. We are more than happy to help you learn but do not expect us to spoon feed you on every easy to find piece of info or silly question (those can go horribly wrong for you take my word for it).


Oh, and if you want something for burn outs you bought the wrong car.

I fixed the link where the answer was. I wasn't trolling the OP and I don't believe he is either to get the answer for this. Correct link: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8283

that's dedication right there.

I tried doing something once for a while never and it didn't end well.

i've never not tried to double a negative, that didn't go not bad for me, as well.