FS: OFT
 

looking for 600. Will come with all cables, and will be unmarried.

I'll give you a hand flashing a rom if you'd like when you pick it up as well.

Any reason why you have not paid me yet for the mid pipe as we discussed?

Yup, there's a few reasons. My phone got smashed, so I lost your number and your email in that process. Like I told you over PM or text, I'm working out in the oil fields, so I have spotty reception and I'm quite busy with working 14-20 hour days. I wanted the front pipe, not the mid pipe, so I'd hate to pay for something and not get the correct part then have to deal with shipping things back to you and spending even more money in the process. I'll look for something a bit more local though, instead of having the FP shipped from Ottawa. Good luck with your sales.

This may have been better off sent in a PM.

Well when contact seased once I asked for payment seemed pretty odd. We had a deal and I shipped the item in good faith before having the payment confirmed my bad I guess.

this is the conversation we had about the item shipped to him beware when dealing with him

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@Hachiroku maybe this is something of interest to you

It's very interesting looking at the conversation. You never once mentioned that you'd be shipping the item whether you received the e-transfer or not.

But, continue on the smear campaign. Ask anyone who I've dealt with in the past about their experiences. Shit happens, and with you putting this out in the public, instead of attempting to do it through a text, call, PM, etc. shows how much of a child you're acting like.

I don't know about you, but every time I've had to ship something as part of a transaction or receive something through shipping, I've done it through PayPal, so that way, if the seller doesn't ship I can submit a dispute. Or, if I'm the seller, the buyer can rest assured that they'll either get the item, or they get to keep their money.

I also find it amusing that you didn't chose to make the PM where I specifically asked for your PAYPAL username, which I would have preferred to use. But, is no matter now. PM me your address and I'll make sure to ship the FP (is it even the FP you shipped to me, or is it the Mid pipe?) back to you, provided I receive it before I leave for AB again. If it hasn't arrived by the time I've left, I'll get my girlfriend or my parents to take care of it.

Cheers. If you have anything else you'd like to discuss, let me know either in this thread, or through PM.

aren't OFT's $500 new?

Your probably in mericaa. Check the exchange rate

Why would you send something without payment. Agreement or not. Money first.

Be lucky he is willing to send it back

$.80 on the dollar.. that doesn't add up to an extra $100...

Thats the actual exhange and yes it does lol unless my basic math is wrong. 500x1.2=$600??? Add in ship and taxes too

No one in canada buys OFT without a credit card or paypal. So the exhange rate goes up to like .75 due to credit card company wanting a share.

wow, my math skills are sucking today. jebus, i had no idea your CAD had gotten so weak. i was just up there for work recently, and it wasn't that bad. What happened?

Its mainly when using credit cards or paypal. The exchange is .20 but buying anything online needs a credit card so they bump it up to profit.

Although, I do find it fishy that he apparently sent it, but didn't provide a tracking number. I know for sure that if I sent something before payment was received I'd be sending the buyer a tracking number to remind him to give me my fucking money. I feel as though this is more of a cry for attention, since it was all posted publicly, I let him know my situation with spotty cell coverage. Add to that not a call, or PM was received from him.

TL;DR we'll see if I even receive the FP.

No tracking is a big no no if paying with paypal. All buyer has to do is say he never got it to paypal and instant refund

If i was you i wouldnt bother shipping it back unless hes paying for it. His fault for shipping something without funds first

Given that he has now given me negative trader feedback, without even contacting me directly in the first place, that was my plan. I can understand putting someone on blast in public if this was a legit scam. But, I never asked the guy to ship the part. All I wanted was a shipping quote. I specifically asked for his PayPal, even offered to pay the 3% seller fees. Then he asked for payment in an etransfer, which I wasn't totally comfortable with. I had planned to call him, but between working until 9PM alberta time, so 11pm ontario time, breaking my phone the very next morning and not having reliable internet access, it slipped my mind, I couldn't call him and he didn't even let me know the item "shipped" until this very public declaration of anger.

conversation stating contact by text would be best

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tracking number was to be sent after payment was received

tracking # 0316725001000641 shipped with canada post on sat @ 11:57

picture of front pipe before packaging in 30 ft of thick bubble wrap

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seems your doing allot to discredit me but in the end I have nothing to hid. I fulfilled my end of the bargain you chose to not reply to texts after a price was agreed and at no point after I requested a payment via e transfer did you say you would prefer paypal.

Literally the first message I sent to you, I asked to use paypal haha. Take a hike bro, and I'll let you know my PayPal address so that you can send me money for the return shipping amount

And when I asked for e transfer did you say anything no you just agreed and then ceased all contact. That's fine don't worry about returning it the I'm already down 44 bucks just shipping it to you I'm not going to send you more money to screw me out of. Congrats you got me

TBH thread is making me laugh


1) Why would you not pay right away, if someone told me they were going to buy something then I would assume they had the money ready to go
2) Never ship something without receiving payment, I've done a few sales on this forum and it was mutually accepted that buyer pays through paypal and then within a day or two the seller ships it out
3) Tracking numbers are kind of a must, the only time I bought something that didn't have a tracking number, the seller took many pictures of the box and receipt!








Honestly I really couldn't care less about what the outcome is because both are kind of at fault...
And since this for sale thread has already been ruined and will likely be closed I'm just going to say that I bought an openflashtablet for my GF's BMW off the US classifieds on ft86club.com for $400USD shipped (which if you negotiate is the going price). Then shipped to CBI USA and picked up to bring across the border (didn't get charged with duty because plugged into car :3) do the exchange rate math and decide whether its worth it for you.
GLWS because what I just stated may be out of reach to some people or they are just too lazy and its a hell of a lot cheaper than getting it new.

agreed i should not have shipped the item without payment i was too trusting. no big deal to me in the end just warning others of this guy's untrustworthyness. I also did have a tracking number just was not going to give it to him until payment was received. It was posted above ^

@Canehda I assume you don't actually know what my circumstances are, but, I'll give you some insight. Where I was working when this all went down was north west of Fort McMurray, Alberta on an oil pipeline. To get into the work site every day, we had to do an hour long drive by truck, then another hour and a half by Argo. Cell reception was spotty at best between the camp I was sleeping at, and the work site. In order for us to make work related calls, we had to use a satellite phone.

I had the money ready to go, but due to circumstances already told, it wasn't the easiest thing to send payment.

I could get into this a lot more, but I have the feeling that it's too far gone now, so whatever. Good times had by all

had trouble sending payment but no problem responding "ok" 1 min after i asked to be e transferred. there has also been no contact from him since that "ok" till now

well I don't want to be an ass but that is life man, there have been a couple times on this forum where I have found something to buy, had money ready, but been too busy to complete the deal through paypal so I just tell the seller I'm sorry but I'm busy, if the part is still there when I'm free I will buy it. Sometimes it sells, sometimes it doesn't. You are right though, I have no idea what the circumstance is so I won't comment further, just wanted reemphasize the rules that are stickied at the top of every classifieds subforum on ft86club.

After reading everything on here... I'll pass on the OFT.

Sounds like you were willing to send the money either way. Why not just pay the guy now and redeem yourself here?

Agreed... Pay the guy

@D88 @vleal12 for a part that I never asked to be shipped, a part that I was willing to send back to the dude, until he started spouting off in public, BEFORE EVEN GETTING HOLD OF ME IN PRIVATE. I don't give a fuck about his opinion, he fucked up by sending a part before receiving payment. There are plenty of people on here who have dealt with me and had easy processes.

As far as I'm concerned, I have nothing to redeem. If you don't want to deal with me, fine, I won't lose any sleep over that.

I'll give you $500 for the OFT.

Well you did inquire about it asking for it to be shipped to your or else how would he have your shipping address?

You're both in some kind of wrong.

But why ask him to pay for return shipping. Simply refuse the package no cost to you he eats original shipping.


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Have him ship it out first... Pay him later... Lol

I asked for a quote. Nothing more. I'm not at home, so refusing a package isn't that simple.

guys cmon settle it in pm....but ill offer 501 bob! :burnrubber:

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As long as nobody picks it up it should be sent back. You may be able to get in touch with Canada Post beforehand to inform them.

I don't know either of you, but you can't expect him to not mention it in public after not receiving a reply for awhile. It's sort of your responsibility to get in touch with him somehow if your phone gets busted after telling him to contact you that way while you're up north.

The way I see it, he should've been more careful but he is absolutely not in the wrong for bringing it up on your post.

Just make sure to call them up after the failed delivery and refuse the package. Chalk this one up as a misunderstanding and everyone can just enjoy life :P.

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Thread Status: #REKT

Selling stock front pipe $50
Located in the GTA
(seriously)

Hi Bergen,

Is this still for sale? If so, I'm interested.

For what it's worth I have dealt with and met Bergen before. He seemed like a real straight up guy, former military as I recall. And, he definitely is working in the oil fields.
I think the seller made an error for sending product without receiving payment. Hopefully the two will make some resolution. UMB FR-S, had I shipped product before receiving payment I am sure i'd have encountered similar situations to yours multiple times. The deal's not done until they pay you, like it or not. Shipping prematurely is something I have never encountered.

I have also had people bust out on deals when they were supposed to meet me at a specific time, without phone calls or any notice. It's not cool, but again I wouldnt give them anything before payment.

You can't really point a finger at Bergen in this case.

i have personally met and dealt with Bergen. Amazing guy to deal with and would not hesitate to deal with him again.

Well this is good to hear. I'm definitely interested in picking up the OFT from you. Just let me know if you still have it available Bergen!