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scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 01:29 PM
Game of Thrones *SPOILER ALERT*
 
so.. Who watches game of thrones? lol

tahdizzle 06-15-2015 01:53 PM
who doesn't? :P

strat61caster 06-15-2015 01:57 PM
I went from hating Melisandre to desperate fan in about the span of a minute. It's going to be a long 10 months...

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2287385)
I went from hating Melisandre to desperate fan in about the span of a minute. It's going to be a long 10 months...
No doubt. That bish better have some reincarnation powers on-deck for that know-nothing Jon Snow

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2287418)
No doubt. That bish better have some reincarnation powers on-deck for that know-nothing Jon Snow
That's what I'm saying!

cjd 06-15-2015 02:42 PM
I've heard of it, never been inclined to try digging it up. Why is it worth a watch?

No TV here, so not even sure how it's available.

WhiteFRS69 06-15-2015 02:48 PM
nope, not a fan

rice_classic 06-15-2015 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2287418)
No doubt. That bish better have some reincarnation powers on-deck for that know-nothing Jon Snow
Options:

1: He becomes a white walker (not a zombie but one of the leaders)
2: His soul gets transferred into the wolf and maybe somehow back into a man later?
3: Resurrected by lady in red.
4: He doesn't actually die from his wounds.. maybe someone sees him bleeding out nurses him back to health?
5: He just fucking dies.. Goddamnit!
6: ???

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287445)
Options:

1: He becomes a white walker (not a zombie but one of the leaders)
2: His soul gets transferred into the wolf and maybe somehow back into a man later?
3: Resurrected by lady in red.
4: He doesn't actually die from his wounds.. maybe someone sees him bleeding out nurses him back to health?
5: He just fucking dies.. Goddamnit!
6: ???
I wonder what the night's watch is going to do to all the wildlings now. I hate that kid lol he killed ygritte and now jon

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287445)
Options:

1: He becomes a white walker (not a zombie but one of the leaders)
2: His soul gets transferred into the wolf and maybe somehow back into a man later?
3: Resurrected by lady in red.
4: He doesn't actually die from his wounds.. maybe someone sees him bleeding out nurses him back to health?
5: He just fucking dies.. Goddamnit!
6: ???

6... My theory, Melisandre realized that Jon Snow (not Stannis Baratheon) is actually Prince that was Promised / Azor Ahai (non-spoiler linky)

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scottxnizzle (Post 2287450)
I wonder what the night's watch is going to do to all the wildlings now. I hate that kid lol he killed ygritte and now jon
IKR... Also, Tormund is gonna be angry, and they won't like him when he's angry.

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287430)
I've heard of it, never been inclined to try digging it up. Why is it worth a watch?

No TV here, so not even sure how it's available.
The chit's hardcore man. You can HBO-GO it, also available on Amazon Prime, or rent seasons on DVD.

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2287462)
IKR... Also, Tormund is gonna be angry, and they won't like him when he's angry.
Tormund is gonna go crazy on the night's watch. Also.. I wished jon died fighting that one white walker on episode 8, not by the night's watch.

WingZer0 06-15-2015 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287445)
Options:

1: He becomes a white walker (not a zombie but one of the leaders)
2: His soul gets transferred into the wolf and maybe somehow back into a man later?
3: Resurrected by lady in red.
4: He doesn't actually die from his wounds.. maybe someone sees him bleeding out nurses him back to health?
5: He just fucking dies.. Goddamnit!
6: ???


I'm thinking option 3.

rice_classic 06-15-2015 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2287458)
6... My theory, Melisandre realized that Jon Snow (not Stannis Baratheon) is actually Prince that was Promised / Azor Ahai (non-spoiler linky)
Hence #3, resurrected by "lady in red" (I didn't remember her name) :D

However, the actor that plays Jon Snow has publicly said he's done with GoT, as in his employment is over and that his character is, in fact dead. He's currently working on other projects. So there's that.

Special_K 06-15-2015 04:58 PM
All I saw when Reek and Sansa jumped off that wall...

"Aim for the bushes?"
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/120...e-bushes-o.gif

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287662)
Hence #3, resurrected by "lady in red" (I didn't remember her name) :D

However, the actor that plays Jon Snow has publicly said he's done with GoT, as in his employment is over and that his character is, in fact dead. He's currently working on other projects. So there's that.
damn you Kit lol

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Special_K (Post 2287678)
All I saw when Reek and Sansa jumped off that wall...

"Aim for the bushes?"
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/120...e-bushes-o.gif
Lol hope the snow is deep

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287662)
Hence #3, resurrected by "lady in red" (I didn't remember her name) :D

However, the actor that plays Jon Snow has publicly said he's done with GoT, as in his employment is over and that his character is, in fact dead. He's currently working on other projects. So there's that.
Actually, what he said was...

As for whether or not his character his really dead or if there’s a chance his wounds were not fatal and he returns, Harrington said: ‘I’ve been told I’m dead. I’m dead. I’m not coming back next season. So that’s all I can tell you, really.’ http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game...on-1201519627/

  • "I've been told" - hmmm...
  • "I'm not coming back" - As in Kit Harrington or Jon Snow? Remember, the resurrected character's name is not Jon Snow.
  • "...next season" - hmmm... Bran Stark's character took a season off (along with Hodor, and others). Possible to be gone but not gone.
Most importantly, there is a tradition with the cast, that when an actor's character is killed off, they get a parting gift from the producers. Kit, not thinking let it slip, that he didn't get a parting gift at the end of the season. That's probably one of the most important clues. More here...
http://www.nylon.com/articles/jon-snow-dead-season-6

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Special_K (Post 2287678)
All I saw when Reek and Sansa jumped off that wall...

"Aim for the bushes?"
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/120...e-bushes-o.gif
My feeling is that Sansa and Theon have lived in Winterfell their whole lives. They'd know if that snow was deep enough for a plunge.

rice_classic 06-15-2015 06:20 PM
I read the same article in Variety and I was basing it off this line:

Quote:
“We did the Tony Soprano walk (tell an actor they’re going to die). And they said, ‘Look, you’re gone, it’s done.'”
So yes, the Jon Snow we know that played by Harrington looks to be gone so if Jon Snow is resurrected it would then be another actor presumably.

NWFRS 06-15-2015 06:21 PM
My wifey watches it.

My summary based on what I've seen:
Betrayal. Murder. Intrigue. Politics. Rape scene. Plotting. More intrigue. Betrayal. Incestual rape scene. War. Family dispute. Execution. A long journey. Reevaluation of loyalties. War. Rape scene. Never mind she wanted it. Intrigue. Journey. Join a cult. Poison a cousin. Rape a cousin. Murder wife. Climb a wall. Kill Sean Bean. Start a long distance war. Steal dragon eggs. Kill his father. Pay the whore. Kill the whore. Drunken orgy. Plot. Retire to castle. Castrate servant. Rape servant. Betray cousin. Start second war. Kill messenger. Sell grain. Raise money. Revenge father's death. Poison king. Rape girl. Torture prisoners. Burn village. Make peace with neighbor. Combine army. Rape prisoner. Ambush brother. Decline gift. Chain dragons. Save villager. Kill random peasant. Burn enemies grain stores. Start war. Kill prisoners. Journey to mountains. Kill prince. Burn advisor. Discover lost sibling. Plot against family. Rape cousin. Build new fortification. Save rape victim. Murder cousin. Castrate prisoners. Kill dwarf. Poison friend. Decapitate mother. Start new war. Make peace with enemy. Rape enemy. Trick Father. Destroy castle. Bankrupt country. Attempt rape. Skin dog. Burn horse. Kill whore. Commission fleet. Rape child. Destroy fortress. Plot. Pillage. Journey to foreign capital. Enter the arena. Kill cousin. Start a war. Banish advisor. Rape sibling. Burn fleet. Kill cousin. Plot...

Repeat.

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287815)
I read the same article in Variety and I was basing it off this line:

So yes, the Jon Snow we know that played by Harrington looks to be gone so if Jon Snow is resurrected it would then be another actor presumably.

I could see it working out this way too. Or maybe it'll be some CG version with Kit's voice, if the dude is a magical creature or (kind of like the Night's King).

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 06:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 2287816)
My wifey watches it.

My summary based on what I've seen:
Betrayal. Murder. Intrigue. Politics. Rape scene. Plotting. More intrigue. Betrayal. Incestual rape scene. War. Family dispute. Execution. A long journey. Reevaluation of loyalties. War. Rape scene. Never mind she wanted it. Intrigue. Journey. Join a cult. Poison a cousin. Rape a cousin. Murder wife. Climb a wall. Kill Sean Bean. Start a long distance war. Steal dragon eggs. Kill his father. Pay the whore. Kill the whore. Drunken orgy. Plot. Retire to castle. Castrate servant. Rape servant. Betray cousin. Start second war. Kill messenger. Sell grain. Raise money. Revenge father's death. Poison king. Rape girl. Torture prisoners. Burn village. Make peace with neighbor. Combine army. Rape prisoner. Ambush brother. Decline gift. Chain dragons. Save villager. Kill random peasant. Burn enemies grain stores. Start war. Kill prisoners. Journey to mountains. Kill prince. Burn advisor. Discover lost sibling. Plot against family. Rape cousin. Build new fortification. Save rape victim. Murder cousin. Castrate prisoners. Kill dwarf. Poison friend. Decapitate mother. Start new war. Make peace with enemy. Rape enemy. Trick Father. Destroy castle. Bankrupt country. Attempt rape. Skin dog. Burn horse. Kill whore. Commission fleet. Rape child. Destroy fortress. Plot. Pillage. Journey to foreign capital. Enter the arena. Kill cousin. Start a war. Banish advisor. Rape sibling. Burn fleet. Kill cousin. Plot...

Repeat.
:lol:

and then in the next episode.... Betrayal. Murder. Intrigue. Politics. Rape scene. Plotting. More intrigue. Betrayal. Incestual rape scene. War. Family dispute. Execution...

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 2287816)
My wifey watches it.

My summary based on what I've seen:
Betrayal. Murder. Intrigue. Politics. Rape scene. Plotting. More intrigue. Betrayal. Incestual rape scene. War. Family dispute. Execution. A long journey. Reevaluation of loyalties. War. Rape scene. Never mind she wanted it. Intrigue. Journey. Join a cult. Poison a cousin. Rape a cousin. Murder wife. Climb a wall. Kill Sean Bean. Start a long distance war. Steal dragon eggs. Kill his father. Pay the whore. Kill the whore. Drunken orgy. Plot. Retire to castle. Castrate servant. Rape servant. Betray cousin. Start second war. Kill messenger. Sell grain. Raise money. Revenge father's death. Poison king. Rape girl. Torture prisoners. Burn village. Make peace with neighbor. Combine army. Rape prisoner. Ambush brother. Decline gift. Chain dragons. Save villager. Kill random peasant. Burn enemies grain stores. Start war. Kill prisoners. Journey to mountains. Kill prince. Burn advisor. Discover lost sibling. Plot against family. Rape cousin. Build new fortification. Save rape victim. Murder cousin. Castrate prisoners. Kill dwarf. Poison friend. Decapitate mother. Start new war. Make peace with enemy. Rape enemy. Trick Father. Destroy castle. Bankrupt country. Attempt rape. Skin dog. Burn horse. Kill whore. Commission fleet. Rape child. Destroy fortress. Plot. Pillage. Journey to foreign capital. Enter the arena. Kill cousin. Start a war. Banish advisor. Rape sibling. Burn fleet. Kill cousin. Plot...

Repeat.
that's basically it LOL

cjd 06-15-2015 06:38 PM
So, not worth watching I guess.

scottxnizzle 06-15-2015 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287834)
So, not worth watching I guess.
After reading all of that how is it not worth watching :thumbup:

Special_K 06-15-2015 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 2287816)
My wifey watches it.

My summary based on what I've seen:
Betrayal. Murder. Intrigue. Politics. Rape scene. Plotting. More intrigue. Betrayal. Incestual rape scene. War. Family dispute. Execution. A long journey. Reevaluation of loyalties. War. Rape scene. Never mind she wanted it. Intrigue. Journey. Join a cult. Poison a cousin. Rape a cousin. Murder wife. Climb a wall. Kill Sean Bean. Start a long distance war. Steal dragon eggs. Kill his father. Pay the whore. Kill the whore. Drunken orgy. Plot. Retire to castle. Castrate servant. Rape servant. Betray cousin. Start second war. Kill messenger. Sell grain. Raise money. Revenge father's death. Poison king. Rape girl. Torture prisoners. Burn village. Make peace with neighbor. Combine army. Rape prisoner. Ambush brother. Decline gift. Chain dragons. Save villager. Kill random peasant. Burn enemies grain stores. Start war. Kill prisoners. Journey to mountains. Kill prince. Burn advisor. Discover lost sibling. Plot against family. Rape cousin. Build new fortification. Save rape victim. Murder cousin. Castrate prisoners. Kill dwarf. Poison friend. Decapitate mother. Start new war. Make peace with enemy. Rape enemy. Trick Father. Destroy castle. Bankrupt country. Attempt rape. Skin dog. Burn horse. Kill whore. Commission fleet. Rape child. Destroy fortress. Plot. Pillage. Journey to foreign capital. Enter the arena. Kill cousin. Start a war. Banish advisor. Rape sibling. Burn fleet. Kill cousin. Plot...

Repeat.
For only watching it in passing, that was an incredibly accurate and thorough description. :thumbsup:

cjd 06-15-2015 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottxnizzle (Post 2287839)
After reading all of that how is it not worth watching :thumbup:
I just read the cliff-notes, and it didn't sound interesting? If I want rape, pillage, war, and murder I can watch the news. I prefer to spend my free time enjoying the best humanity has to offer, not the most pathetic.

C

Special_K 06-15-2015 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287866)
I just read the cliff-notes, and it didn't sound interesting? If I want rape, pillage, war, and murder I can watch the news. I prefer to spend my free time enjoying the best humanity has to offer, not the most pathetic.

C
...Wait...CJ? Is that you old friend?

cjd 06-15-2015 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Special_K (Post 2287872)
...Wait...CJ? Is that you old friend?
Unlikely? I'm not sure I have many friends. :)

strat61caster 06-15-2015 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2287807)
My feeling is that Sansa and Theon have lived in Winterfell their whole lives. They'd know if that snow was deep enough for a plunge.
And shallow enough to end their suffering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287866)
I just read the cliff-notes, and it didn't sound interesting? If I want rape, pillage, war, and murder I can watch the news. I prefer to spend my free time enjoying the best humanity has to offer, not the most pathetic.

C
I get it, I couldn't watch Breaking Bad the first time I tried and haven't gone back yet. Though I will try.

But this has dragons and snow zombies, so I'm well aware that it is fantasy drama and not real drama, the impact is lessened and ignoring the brutality of humanity does nothing to prevent it, there exists monstrosities as bad or worse in our own history books and reported daily as you so rightly note.

There are complex characters and motives at work, even the most wicked villain on first glance is sympathetic a few episodes later and the knight in shining armor in one moment is revealed to be monstrous in another and you can watch his/her heart shatter in another, nobody is truly evil (except a few) or pure-hearted.

Sadly there are some character's grossly simplified and turned into shallow caricatures from the books but there's more than enough good to be entertained for most.

cjd 06-15-2015 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2287893)
But this has dragons and snow zombies, so I'm well aware that it is fantasy drama and not real drama
Good point, I've never met a snow zombie. I've never met anything snow alive in the first place, such that it could become dead in order to become undead.

Honestly, it's just not my kind of show. I'm sure I could get into it if I felt like it, but only so much time and... eh. Maybe some day, maybe not. If it's a good story I could see it happening... then again, you said books? Maybe I should read that - far more my speed.

I could always read my family history, parts of it definitely ring true. It was a messy time back then.

DAEMANO 06-15-2015 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287941)
Good point, I've never met a snow zombie. I've never met anything snow alive in the first place, such that it could become dead in order to become undead.

Honestly, it's just not my kind of show. I'm sure I could get into it if I felt like it, but only so much time and... eh. Maybe some day, maybe not. If it's a good story I could see it happening... then again, you said books? Maybe I should read that - far more my speed.

I could always read my family history, parts of it definitely ring true. It was a messy time back then.
Kinda wonders why this guy is in the thread. :rolleyes:

asdf 06-15-2015 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287941)
Good point, I've never met a snow zombie. I've never met anything snow alive in the first place, such that it could become dead in order to become undead.

Honestly, it's just not my kind of show. I'm sure I could get into it if I felt like it, but only so much time and... eh. Maybe some day, maybe not. If it's a good story I could see it happening... then again, you said books? Maybe I should read that - far more my speed.

I could always read my family history, parts of it definitely ring true. It was a messy time back then.
didn't think i would be into it.

i started when season 2 was wrapping up and went in thinking "Meh, I'm not really into this 'genre' but whatever I'll check out a few episodes..."

Probably my favorite show now, lol

rice_classic 06-15-2015 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 2287816)
My wifey watches it.

My summary based on what I've seen:
Betrayal. Murder. Intrigue. Politics. Rape scene. Plotting. More intrigue. Betrayal. Incestual rape scene. War. Family dispute. Execution. A long journey. Reevaluation of loyalties. War. Rape scene. Never mind she wanted it. Intrigue. Journey. Join a cult. Poison a cousin. Rape a cousin. Murder wife. Climb a wall. Kill Sean Bean. Start a long distance war. Steal dragon eggs. Kill his father. Pay the whore. Kill the whore. Drunken orgy. Plot. Retire to castle. Castrate servant. Rape servant. Betray cousin. Start second war. Kill messenger. Sell grain. Raise money. Revenge father's death. Poison king. Rape girl. Torture prisoners. Burn village. Make peace with neighbor. Combine army. Rape prisoner. Ambush brother. Decline gift. Chain dragons. Save villager. Kill random peasant. Burn enemies grain stores. Start war. Kill prisoners. Journey to mountains. Kill prince. Burn advisor. Discover lost sibling. Plot against family. Rape cousin. Build new fortification. Save rape victim. Murder cousin. Castrate prisoners. Kill dwarf. Poison friend. Decapitate mother. Start new war. Make peace with enemy. Rape enemy. Trick Father. Destroy castle. Bankrupt country. Attempt rape. Skin dog. Burn horse. Kill whore. Commission fleet. Rape child. Destroy fortress. Plot. Pillage. Journey to foreign capital. Enter the arena. Kill cousin. Start a war. Banish advisor. Rape sibling. Burn fleet. Kill cousin. Plot...

Repeat.
You know how I know I'm not optimistic humanist? Because I read that post, which was funny btw, and I thought to myself: "Strip away any pretense of modern law and order and you've pretty much defined the natural human condition, in which the world, for humans, is both incredibly ugly and unsafe because of... other humans."

Or more succinctly: "I'm stronger than you, give me that." Then elaborate and extrapolate from there...

strat61caster 06-15-2015 08:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2287941)
If it's a good story I could see it happening... then again, you said books? Maybe I should read that - far more my speed.

I could always read my family history, parts of it definitely ring true. It was a messy time back then.
The first three books are on par with anything fantasy/sci-fi ever released, top notch. Then he got enough clout to overrule his editor and the finished products (books 4 & 5) suffered from a lack of pruning.

Get out of here now and avoid spoilers, there are some great moments that will loose all impact if you know about them beforehand. And the books are in more shades of gray, the show's interpretation of certain moments leaves a lot to be desired imo. Still a very good adaptation, but that's typically not the highest bar.

cjd 06-15-2015 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2287961)
Kinda wonders why this guy is in the thread. :rolleyes:
Curiosity.

Some of the design work I've seen apparent in stills has me intrigued enough to be curious about the show.

Plus now I want to see a snow zombie.

C

scottxnizzle 06-16-2015 01:26 AM
Anyways.. Lol the mountain finally came back. Reminds me of bane from the old batman cartoon.

Breeeep 06-16-2015 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2287662)
Hence #3, resurrected by "lady in red" (I didn't remember her name) :D

However, the actor that plays Jon Snow has publicly said he's done with GoT, as in his employment is over and that his character is, in fact dead. He's currently working on other projects. So there's that.

He'll be resurrected by the red witch .. the timing of her return is no coincidence. (of all places for her to go ?) Of course the 'Jon Snow' character is dead... He'll come back as some sort of Fire God Zombie Killer ! (Killing all of the Night watch assheads .... especially Olly ) Maybe future battle with Cersi's undead mountain ?


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