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ashtray 06-03-2015 04:32 PM

Trade my BRZ for an STi??
 
I've had my BRZ for 3 years now - and a grand total of 7,500 miles driven. Its a fun car but I find myself driving my bugeye WRX more often, just out of comfort and ease of driving. (and better back seat access to belt my kid in).

Wondering if I should trade my BRZ for a new WRX or even a 2004-2007 STi?

Bought my '03 WRX 11+ years ago (!) and have always liked the STi, especially the 2005 model. My WRX is a wagon - the handling of the BRZ greatly trumps that of the WRX but the STi has 300hp, a 6 speed, and back doors. Hmm. Cost about $20k for a nice low mileage one.

Then again, the new WRX is modern, decent power, more rear seat room, and includes a new car warranty. Cost though is $27k.

I'd be keeping my '03 in either case bc Subaru isn't making a WRX wagon anymore!

krayzie 06-03-2015 05:04 PM

The new WRX STI center tunnel is so wide I can't even heel and toe the gas pedal with my heel (I wear US size 11.5 to 12 shoes). I don't recall the GD having this issue. The overall driving position isn't that great either with this new one and the last gen's WRX. IMHO BRZ just sits perfect the moment you get in.

gramicci101 06-03-2015 05:05 PM

If you're going to keep your '03, then why get another WRX? If you end up driving the new one more then you'll wonder why you bothered to keep the '03. If you still drive the '03 more, you'll wonder why you bothered getting a new one that you don't use.

Since you already have a fun car, then get a vehicle that does something the WRX can't.

extrashaky 06-03-2015 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray (Post 2273284)
Wondering if I should trade my BRZ for a new WRX or even a 2004-2007 STi?

I love these threads because how the hell should we know?

Based on that, I say go for it. Don't even bother test driving the STI. Just order it and trade in your BRZ.

Then be sure to come back and tell us how that went.

pinski 06-03-2015 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray (Post 2273284)
I've had my BRZ for 3 years now - and a grand total of 7,500 miles driven. Its a fun car but I find myself driving my bugeye WRX more often, just out of comfort and ease of driving. (and better back seat access to belt my kid in).

Wondering if I should trade my BRZ for a new WRX or even a 2004-2007 STi?

Bought my '03 WRX 11+ years ago (!) and have always liked the STi, especially the 2005 model. My WRX is a wagon - the handling of the BRZ greatly trumps that of the WRX but the STi has 300hp, a 6 speed, and back doors. Hmm. Cost about $20k for a nice low mileage one.

Then again, the new WRX is modern, decent power, more rear seat room, and includes a new car warranty. Cost though is $27k.

I'd be keeping my '03 in either case bc Subaru isn't making a WRX wagon anymore!

I think you should sell the BRZ and not get anything to replace it with. If you aren't driving it, that's your answer, you don't need another car.

svtfever 06-03-2015 05:30 PM

give me the brz lol

JS + BRZ 06-03-2015 06:03 PM

Sell your BRZ.

Get the new STi.

/thread

justin6280 06-03-2015 06:39 PM

7,500 miles in 3 years?? Yeah it sounds like you don't prefer to drive the BRZ over your wrx. I say test drive the new wrx/whatever sti year you're interested in. If you like how it is and could see yourself driving it more than your 03, sell the brz.

Skurj 06-03-2015 07:52 PM

I'm thinking a new STi or WRX as well as the BRZ>... but not until the BRZ is paid off... 2.5yrs...


Looked at used but damn the STi and WRX hold their value something stupid...

asdf 06-03-2015 08:13 PM

e39, wrx, and brz...

why would you keep the wrx and get another wrx or sti?

if you aren't interested in driving the brz anymore, why not sell that and the bug eye and then get a newer wagon wrx or sti?

ashtray 06-03-2015 08:14 PM

BRZ is paid off so without dipping in to my bank, I have that value to work with - which gets me a really nice STi. Won't have enough for new WRD but thats what rainy day funds are for.

Two WRX does sound like a conflict though - but one being a high hp sedan would add some variance. Oh, I only drive my WRX 5,000 miles/yr - so 2/3rds of the time. If Subaru would just make a WRX wagon again...

I think a 2005 would feel too close to my 2003 though. New WRX could at least retain push start. Meh - maybe I'll give it another year and see what Subaru is offering or has planned.

(sold the E39 today - it sat taking up garage space. Wasn't for me.)

ryoma 06-03-2015 08:16 PM

get a forester and do an STI swap. best of both worlds. probably don't even need an STI swap, just mod the forester and it'll probably be better than an STI power-wise

FloridaBRZ 06-03-2015 10:23 PM

IMO, if you have only driven your car 7500 miles in 3 years, you don't love it. I drive my car just for the sake of driving it. Its like a woman, if you don't want to spend time with her, upgrade or change. Just please don't get a mustang.

JS + BRZ 06-03-2015 10:31 PM

What's wrong with a Mustang!? :D

svtfever 06-03-2015 10:37 PM

I think the new mustangs arnt mustangs anymore. which is a good thing. its a whole different car. the only thing the old and new share is the name.

Jfheisenberg 06-03-2015 10:51 PM

STI is good for family car. The BRZ is too small for kids and stuff..

TylerLieberman 06-03-2015 11:57 PM

Ditch both cars and buy new STI.

Sounds like 2 cars aren't really a necessity for you at all.

DarkSunrise 06-04-2015 12:23 AM

Sell both and get a new Golf R 5-door hatch (6-spd). Fast, practical, and refined. A stage 1 APR tune puts it at 323whp/360wtq.

If out of your price range, get a used STI hatch. I used to own one and it was a good all-rounder.

Lonewolf 06-04-2015 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2273358)
I love these threads because how the hell should we know?

Based on that, I say go for it. Don't even bother test driving the STI. Just order it and trade in your BRZ.

Then be sure to come back and tell us how that went.

Seriously, why should we have any say in what OP does with his life and property??? :bonk:

x1UP 06-04-2015 02:09 AM

In my opinion, and strictly my opinion, you should trade both and get the STI. You don't need two cars it looks like. Go for the new and the better!

ashtray 06-04-2015 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2273938)
Ditch both cars and buy new STI.

Sounds like 2 cars aren't really a necessity for you at all.

Actually, 2 cars are well appreciated, and one being "a beater" I don't mind parking anywhere, door dings, hauling dirt (literally - doing a garden project and need to buy 4-5 bags this weekend), etc.

Also need a wagon. Hauling music gear, or large items etc. Now if they made a new WRX Wagon, I could consider that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 2273982)
Seriously, why should we have any say in what OP does with his life and property??? :bonk:

You don't. :P That said, its just a thread and I value others' opinions. Maybe someone had an STi and can comment on the pros/cons compared to the BRZ first hand. Its nice to make an informed decision and "polling the forum" is a good "2nd opinion". I still love the BRZ, but some aspects of the car do not fit my needs. At the same time I can't think of another car that offers the same connection between driver and car - at least not in this price range.

TRACE_on 06-04-2015 09:22 AM

Yep, trade in the BRZ and WRX. However, I would get a brand new STi instead of an old one. Treat yourself. :D

tahdizzle 06-04-2015 11:58 AM

IMO WRX > STI in 2015.

kdmBRZ 06-05-2015 01:18 PM

Since you have both and if you REALLY want the STi, then I suggest you wait until they come out with a new engine. Now that Focus RS, Golf R, and possibly Civic Type R with same or more horsepower figures, it will force Subaru to increase the power figures on it I think. Keep your two cars for little longer if you can and trade both in for the new STi when it comes out :w00t:. I used to own 13' STi sedan and honestly I miss it despite having a shitty gas mileage. It just had more room and was comfortable for daily driving. Plus you have that turbo and awd.

thill 06-07-2015 12:38 PM

Have you driven the 2015 STI? I would do what the poster above mentioned, wait for the Focus RS and then cross-shop. Hopefully the STI will get the new engine by then as well.

raven1231 06-07-2015 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2274404)
IMO WRX > STI in 2015.

This!

Liehtw8 06-08-2015 12:02 AM

I owned a 05 STI for better than 5 years when I purchased my brz. Found myself in love with the brz's handling and the entire driving experience. So I sold the STI. However I would love to have that sti back on days when I am lined up next to a camaro/mustang. They may be made from the same company but they are completely different cars.

Vincenttam 06-08-2015 02:34 AM

Just get the normal sti, upgrade to a bigger turbo, headers, ecu and it's going to run quicker than the stock sti and you've probably paid less for it as well.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ru-wrx-vs-sti/

But your 7k miles in three years implies to me you're not much of a driving enthusiast but just has the money to throw on the newest fad. Now that three years has past and everyone and their mother has a twin you want to switch to the next fad. An "STI." So thus i say do it, just get the sti. Hell the next civic si is listed to run about 300hp along with the awd speed 3. As long as your happy. :slap:

ashtray 06-08-2015 03:56 AM

I consider myself an enthusiast. My past few cars include a pair of E39's, a '97 Miata (with a bunch of Flying Miata goodies), a first gen Firebird, my WRX of 12 years, and the BRZ. I try to hit the canyons for a drive when I have time.

A new STi isn't appealing to me - its too much money and still uses the old engine. I like the '05 styling - and have liked it since 2004. So not really going after a "new fad", but considering buying a car I've wanted for 11 years. The new WRX is under consideration - but some things I've read about it make me hesitate.

The new Focus RS I've been following. An AWD hot hatch is just fun, if done right.

thill 06-08-2015 10:52 AM

The new Focus RS will cost as much, if not more than an STI. I would say go drive the new STI and WRX back-to-back and see for yourself. I always hesitate recommending people buy used STI's. For one, they still are kinda pricey, and for two many of them have been beaten to hell and back and by the time you spend money on out of pocket repairs and issues, you almost could have bought a new one.

raven1231 06-08-2015 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincenttam (Post 2278759)
Just get the normal sti, upgrade to a bigger turbo, headers, ecu and it's going to run quicker than the stock sti and you've probably paid less for it as well.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ru-wrx-vs-sti/

But your 7k miles in three years implies to me you're not much of a driving enthusiast but just has the money to throw on the newest fad. Now that three years has past and everyone and their mother has a twin you want to switch to the next fad. An "STI." So thus i say do it, just get the sti. Hell the next civic si is listed to run about 300hp along with the awd speed 3. As long as your happy. :slap:

Think you meant wrx lol

raven1231 06-08-2015 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill (Post 2278950)
The new Focus RS will cost as much, if not more than an STI. I would say go drive the new STI and WRX back-to-back and see for yourself. I always hesitate recommending people buy used STI's. For one, they still are kinda pricey, and for two many of them have been beaten to hell and back and by the time you spend money on out of pocket repairs and issues, you almost could have bought a new one.


definitely, I would never buy a car like that used, I learned my lesson with my last evo. Buy new, and you will likely save money in the long run anyway.

xxBrun0xx 06-11-2015 02:13 PM

Sell the BRZ and build your 03 WRX. Full +04 sti drivetrain + interior, 2.5 hybrid motor, 2.2 turbo, or full jdm 03 sti swap are all great options. If you love the form factor but want something a bit nicer/faster, building what you have is the way to go.

jknakes 06-12-2015 11:54 AM

i went the other direction. had a 06 sti for 5 years after having a 02 wrx for 3. sold the sti and got a brz. love the handling but miss the power of the sti.

ichitaka05 06-12-2015 12:34 PM

Am I the only one seeing that, he already decided on his decision? Not trolling or rude here... but over dozen of ideas were brought up, but all of em were thrown out of the window.

Your mind is set, sell BRZ and get 05 WRX/STI.

Simple as that

Tcoat 06-12-2015 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2284612)
Am I the only one seeing that, he already decided on his decision? Not trolling or rude here... but over dozen of ideas were brought up, but all of em were thrown out of the window.

Your mind is set, sell BRZ and get 05 WRX/STI.

Simple as that

Ahhhh so you do share my frustration with some of these "what should I do" threads!

SUB-FT86 06-12-2015 12:54 PM

7,500 miles in 3 years? Everyday I can't wait to drive my car and you barely drives yours.

Amir Ghadiri 06-12-2015 01:42 PM

For what it's worth, I've had both a '15 STI and a '15 WRX as demo's from work. I put about 2-3k miles on each - still have the WRX at the moment. The '15 STI is cool and for a daily, I would probably get it instead of an FR-S/BRZ. I didn't fall for the WRX quite as hard though, I'm not very thrilled driving it even as a free demo.

ichitaka05 06-12-2015 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2284629)
Ahhhh so you do share my frustration with some of these "what should I do" threads!

Not really frustration. Cuz I've been around here too long that, I don't get frustrated by it anymore. I might be lil bit more blunt, but won't lie saying to keep the FRS/BRZ when they have already decided. :D

JS + BRZ 06-12-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amir Ghadiri (Post 2284689)
For what it's worth, I've had both a '15 STI and a '15 WRX as demo's from work. I put about 2-3k miles on each - still have the WRX at the moment. The '15 STI is cool and for a daily, I would probably get it instead of an FR-S/BRZ. I didn't fall for the WRX quite as hard though, I'm not very thrilled driving it even as a free demo.

How come you don't like the WRX? Just curious. :)


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