RECON permit in HAWAII
 

I'm still living in the heart of Los Angeles, but plan on moving to Oahu in the near future.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this thread, but how do you crazy modded FR-S or Nissan owners get away from this strict regulation and still daily drive your car? I heard you're not even suppose to have clear side markers if they're not factory? They need to be colored amber with the corresponding DOT number.

I surf the net and people do have bigger wheels, crazy suspension work and what not and still have their Hawaii license plate.

I currently have 18x8.5(F) & 18x9(R) set up running springs & shock. I only lowered the car 1.4" and my shocks are rebound adjustable so I think this is probably going to be ok. I'm not rubbing at all. The only probably I think I may face is the alignment which I'm hoping when I get camber kits or adjustable arms this will bring the car back to stock specs. Exhaust, racing seats are I think out of the RECON category.

Any tips are greatly appreciated
I'd hate to bring the car back to stock again....

LOL, I just answered this on the other thread...

My side markers are clear and I have had no issue with the inspections. I think the RECON inspection only happens if you have modded suspension, which mine does not. Even then, they supposedly only check to see that it's properly and safely installed. Check the tint laws too, they check that during inspections. Aloha!

Thank you REAV3R. I'm sorry if I had missed your posting as I'm very new to the forum...I apologize.

I guess I will have to deal with RECON regardless since my car is lowered, but it's not sitting on coilovers nor does it sit at a crazy stance. I wonder how the others manage to pass the test. I do see some lowered FRS in Hawaii with bigger wheels.

There shouldn't be much, if any, issues with your car being on coilovers. There are many owners around here with pretty aggressive setups, and not just BRZs and FR-S... To my knowledge, it's more of a "let's just make sure this thing is roadworthy" than looking for any specific gigs. I would think they are just making sure you're not trying to run around on hockey pucks or cut springs! LOL They are a bit particular about offset though. They almost didn't pass my truck because the tires are "just" past flush. The tech told me any further and I'd have to have fender flares. IMO, it's more of a revenue for the state than anything else...


I think you're right about the other mods. My catless UEL and muffler delete didn't even raise an eyebrow. Good luck!

Tint laws here in Hawaii are 30%....safety check inspections depending where you go can either use a machine to test the tints or they don't bother checking it at all...charge for tints on safety checks are $5.00 extra....

So I guess there are not a whole lot of crazy modded cars in Hawaii, huh? I see some in like Super Street magazine but I wonder how they get around the RECON...or are they not even registered to be driven on the streets??

It depends on what your definition of "crazy modded cars" is.

If your idea of crazy modded is wheels and a drop, you should be fine permitting your license plate is 12" from the ground, you have alignment within 30 days of inspection, and your suspension rebounds one inch (thats a bit ridiculous). BTW Hawaii roads are shit - so you should be checking alignment more often than usual. The potholes here will bring it out of whack quick. If youre talking substantial suspension mods - dont do it here, unless you plan to track it (SCCA is what we have left) or hit Campbells or what not. The stiffer your suspension is here the faster it'll rattle your car apart. Softer settings are good here too - less chance of you flying off the crappy ass roads at higher speeds.

Engine swaps are dime a dozen here. There's lots of guys with SR20 and RB25 swaps, let alone the Honda community. RECON even allows it, permitting you can show proof that you got the engine legitimately. I've pushed two 240sx's with SR swaps through RECON no problem. Well, they just gigged me for alignment being 15 days out of date the first time I went through. Forced induction is not an issue, as long as you don't compromise your bumper reinforcement, which I understand.

It's federally mandated that you do not remove factory cats, which would mean aftermarket headers and front pipes are illegal in any state. But they dont even check that here. If you roll in with one loud ass car though you'll likely be scrutinized. They don't examine your system at safety check either.

Keep in mind when you get safety check they do check your RECON papers and they also take a photo of your car to send to DOT.


RECON has come a long way from how it was back in the day. I used to hate RECON - but as it's changed so has my attitude towards it to some degree. I'm not happy with some of the ways in which the perform their test (Rebound push test? really??) Looking at vehicle mod laws elsewhere (Virginia/Maryland is a nightmare) I'm just glad it's gotten better instead of worse.

There is no minimum height requirement in Hawaii. From the State Inspection Manual-

Bumpers- The State sets a 22-inch maximum height for cars. There is no minimum height for cars.

Also covered in HRS 291-35.1

I don't see anything about suspension rebound.

And OP, only Oahu requires recons.

http://hidot.hawaii.gov/highways/fil...cks-9-2013.pdf

So I'm guessing this person doesn't live on Oahu??

http://gulfcars.blogspot.com/2014/09...ian-punch.html

This car was featured on the Super Street magazine, and it did mention about the owner paying expensive dues and what not but its still got a Hawaiian "plate." But based on all of the thread I've read here, it's not really about paying the fees that comes along but solely, the vehicle must pass the RECON in order for the vehicle to pass the "actual" inspection right?

Revision Audio's LS is another good example.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/09/...o-lexus-ls430/

But however these people got their way around it, the bottom line is that it has to pass RECON living on Oahu; I got it, though it's an annoying factor to consider.

It's already giving me second thoughts living over there...:(

LOL ^^

...just wait until you experience the H1 interstate highway traffic when it takes you more than two hours to drive 15 miles. Then there's the potholes... and parking fees... IF you can find a parking spot... and traffic... oh, and the red dirt that makes your car filthy five minutes after washing and gets into EVERY little seam and seal on your car... and the rain (it usually rains at least once a day here at Schofield. The rest of the island will be sunny and breezy and beautiful but not up here!) Did I mention the traffic?

I agree REAV3R. I've visited Oahu countless times before I thought about moving over there. You're so right about the red dirt. It really stands out on a white car.

The island doesn't seem to be a great place after all for a car enthusiast like myself to migrate...

Just because you need a recon? In the first pic, I think only the tires wouldn't pass. The second one is the wheels.

Neither car has a recon sticker, so they're taking their chances. Maybe they're cops, or family members. Who knows? I'm sure a lot of people don't have insurance and still drive. It's a crapshoot whether you get caught.

Definitely Joe. I was only being sarcastic about not moving. :bonk:
It's definitely a pain in the a** though. We don't have to deal with these things in LA, but the smog regulation is very strict here. Definitely no engine swap, but people illegally do SR20 or K20A here; dunno how they get around the smog inspection...

I'm sure if I spend a sufficient amount of money I can work around getting some adjustable arms & camber kits to fix the alignment back to stock specs. My shocks are rebound adjustable so I'll make sure to have these set at about 2" travel before the recon. Any my tires are free from hitting the wheel well. I think that's all there is to it. I do have BRIDE seats, but I believe seats are not a recon item. No engine mods; just some accessories like braces and strut bars.

So majority of the people here passed recon with your coilovers? Just wondering, for the people that passed the bounce test, what is your spring rate for your coils?

Based on the locals, coilovers will NOT get you through the RECON. Too stiff.

My Hachi passed with ridiculously stiff coilovers. Later found out they were defective from the factory. Anyway, part of the recon is the "bounce" test, which is pretty subjective on the inspectors part. They'll put body weight on part of the car and see if there is "sufficient" suspension movement.
Clear side markers, you can prob get by running them on street, you most likely wont get pulled over just for them, but when you go to Recon, do not have them on. Recon does check for DOT lenses all around. Safety check is also supposed to check, but it may get by some places. Recon no longer limits wheel sizes, but tread cannot extend out beyond body and no rubbing.
So any "crazy" suspension can pass as long as you have the paperwork proving its at OEM alignment specs, and there is a "reasonable" amount of suspension movement. Oh, I think there might have been things about bottom of suspension components extending too low.

Thanks man!

When did you happen do get your recon? My friends said that the driver is the one to do the bounce test not the inspector.

I know clear corners are not acceptable, but has anyone here have a stock FR-S with just the JDM clear corners and passed the regular inspection? I don't think you need RECON for it so it's just the matter of having it approved or not right?

I believe would be the safety check inspection and not RECON.

Do you know if they will pass the safety inspection or no?

I have clear markers on mine; passed with no issues.

I see. That is of course the safety inspection correct? and I don't need to go through RECON for it right, but obviously it probably won't pass with them on...

No RECON for clear side markers. As stated it will pass safety inspection.

Got another question. The 1.0 series yellow TRD FR-S runs the TRD lowering springs on the car w/ stock struts. If I get these installed by the dealer does anybody know if would still require RECON?? Some of the base FR-S here in socal come factory equipped with the TRD lowering springs, wheels, intake, and some other goodies. Can't seem to solve this question myself and would appreciate it if someone can provide an advice. Thx.

Recon for RS 1.0
 

Lani,


My RS1.0 needed a recon, the dealer got it done before I took delivery. It listed the lowering springs as well as the cat-back exhaust.

Are you series?!?!
So what did they do? Just an alignment or added camber bolts???
This RECON thing is absolutely ridiculous.

TRD RS1.0 Recon
 

I don't know if an alignment was done after the spring install, if it was necessary I'm pretty sure the dealership would have done it. However, I'm pretty sure camber bolts weren't installed.


People ask me all the time why I have a recon sticker on a brand new car. When I tell them that it came that way from the dealership, it always blows their minds.

If I do a 10 series/ Monogram headlight conversion (yes, it has DOT stamp as these are OEM), will that require Recon or prevent me from passing the safety inspection?

No, you won't need recon. Are you already a part of our group chat on the line app?

Thank you Atesix. That's good to know! Do you think I'll pass the safety inspection as well?

I'm actually not on the group chat.

You most definitely should pass safety. We have a meet/cruise coming up next week Saturday, you should come out. If you already have the line app, just click this link http://line.me/ti/g/jOw-IJk4Nu. If you don't have the app, download it and click the link to be added. There are a few of is that have done lighting retrofits ranging from jdm light installs to full on custom work. We can give you some pointers for installation. If you aren't mechanically inclined, our club is also sponsored by a performance shop that will do the work for a VERY FAIR price. Hope to meet you soon!


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Thanks again ATESIX.

I actually don't live in Hawaii yet but currently in the process of moving over there. I initially bought parts to put on my car but decided to hold off on it 'til I find out exactly that the car will get through RECON & Safety Inspection. Might keep near stock to avoid the RECON deal, it seems very annoying.

I live in Los Angeles, but we don't have such regulation here other than smog being very strict. I just have a JDM clear corner and the US spec dual tip TRD exhaust, and debating to put on that 10series headlights. I figured as long as it's DOT approved I don't see why not it won't pass safety, but it's always to ask the locals who knows the game. :D

Very excited to meet you all in the near future, mahalo!

Good news is they don't give a rats a$$ about smog here. My rallycross Corolla is running all emissions removed, only a cat and no one bothers it. technically it should be reconned because its running super slight drop springs, but you can't tell as it still runs higher than a lot of cars.

Yea, LA probably has the worst air quality. But unfortunately, I'm more of a cosmetic guy than speed so this RECON thing afflicts the overall mod plan.

This might be a silly question, but are led back-up bulbs (which obviously only comes on when you're in reverse gear) and led license plate bulbs not allowed either??

^ I have both of these and I don't think these matter at all unless the color of the bulb is illegal

I have LED bulbs for license plate and reverse lights are okay as long as the bulbs are not blue. Got that info from a friend who is a HPD officer (Honolulu Police Dept.). He said as long as it's not blue it's ok.

Good to know. Thank you Fr-bless and 86geek.
I've already got the oem 10 series headlights (yes, they have the DOT stamp) swapped on to my car with some clear corners and wouldn't want any hassle by the cops. Besides, all of this would be worthless when I bring my car over there and don't pass the safety inspection. However, I gave up on putting on new wheels / suspension with the RECON deal.

Are after-market cat-back exhausts legal in Hawaii?

Yes they are.