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Just a feedback

I orderered this car knowing about some impecfections

1.Criquets
2.Torque issues when passing from undirect to direct injection zones (-+3krpm)
3.tail light condensation
4.Fuzzy NAV


5.AT choice is not an option in a car like this

Nothing noticed for me up to now .
Is it the MY2015?

Yep 2015's have the antidote injected at dealerships before being released into the wild!

Crickets you may or may not still develop. They are not a sure thing but pretty reliable in their eventual appearance.
The dip is more evident on paper than in real life. Unless you are tracking or racing you should barely notice it (if at all) during regular driving.
The tail lights were fixed ages ago (although some still swear they get it on newer models)
Don't have an opinion on the Nav since I didn't get it.

When you say "fuzzy" do you mean the image or the directions? I have a 2015 with the NAV and the image is fine. The directions are not always the best, though.

1. Crickets aren't as likely to develop (if at all) if you use ethanol-free fuel. Never been to Luxembourg, so not sure what you've got there, but I'm guessing you're ethanol-free.
2. You've got it like we all do, but it really isn't that noticeable.
3. This is largely fixed.
4. What do you mean by fuzzy? Mine has a clear picture, but isn't the best nav system by any stretch of the imagination - showed me driving through a field the other day when I was actually on the highway.

I have honestly never used my nav. I always use google maps on my phone.

Are the maps Apps are better than most of the internal vehicles Navigators?

[QUOTE=Ann1ne;2255995]Just a feedback

2.Torque issues when passing from undirect to direct injection zones (-+3krpm)

Didn't know about this one. I noticed a "shudder" when punching it around a corner (2nd gear mostly) but I thought it was just the throttle vs. TCS trying to keep the car straight. Too many computers fighting each other. Hmm, going to have to search for threads on this undirect vs. direct thingy. Thanks!

YES, Ethanol free here. ( this car only drunk EU ROM 98 ) up to now...

2014 whiteout sexy Fr-S, no crickets @16.5k.

Only issue I've noticed now is rpm slight barely noticeable drop @ full stop take off. Mini leak somewhere? Too unimportant to check atm.

Also, can be an issue but not really, but, downshifting to first around 6mph or so, has grinded twice for me and once it refused to go in. Maybe my digital speedometer not as accurate as I thought or I didnt fully press clutch?

Too tired from work to notice things more specifically at times...

Toyota's NAV has pretty decent content. I like the FASTEST,SHORTEST & ECO route choices . The auto in/out map zooming is a nice feature.
Detail : The Sound/Nav pack comes with Subwoofers & JBL speakers making a perceptible difference in the sound quality

The torque dip was noticeable to me. Start out from a light trying to accelerate quickly, and it would go nicely from 1-2K rpm, then lag between 3-4K, then go again. I solved some of it with an OFT.

I wasn't aware they'd solved the light issue? Curious what the difference is as the problem was a design flaw of poorly sealed lights + drainage path. I solved that with the DIY fix.

Fixed.

Dont bother with cricket voodoo. You'll have them or you wont.

Don't think twice about it.

You need to activate the route choices . This is not the default mode. I guess the default mode is the shortest which generaly is not the better option

What are you driving now? At the end of the day it is still an economy car and there will be the occasional small quirks about the car that you just have to deal with. I personally still think the crickets are way overblown with these cars. When I did notice it, it was not horrible and usually the radio would cover them completely :)

As for the torque dip, you have options. You can learn to drive around it. You can mod your car and get a tune to smooth it out. These cars are made to rev. I think the people who complain the most about the torque curve are the ones who probably need to learn how to downshift more...

My 2015 has crickets that showed up around 1500 miles, I'm at about 2500 now and they only happen sometimes (all fuel here has ethanol, so it's not due to change in fuel).

There is still a noticeable torque dip in the powerband. There is a noticeable jump in torque as soon as you get around 4800rpm. If you are driving aggressively and you notice the kick in the pants at 4800rpm, you know you messed up and didn't downshift enough (or were in first gear!)

I love my crickets :)

http://i3.cpcache.com/product/855568...idth=460&qv=90

So in other words.... VTEC kicks in at 4800rpm??

Yes, over used joke. Forgive me, I am so damn bored right now. :bow:

I believe they now use a larger gasket where the light housing contacts the vehicle to seal it up better.

Yes

I notice the torque dip, it's very profound. I quickly learned to work around it, though. This car likes a two gear downshift.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...86/151/605.jpg

I murdered most of my crickets by putting a little ashless, marine, two stroke oil in every time I fill up.

I NEED THIS SHIRT

OP those are all dealer installed mods upon your first vehicle service.

They need to make sure the car is broken in before installing them :thumbsup:

Downshifting doesn't work from a stop light...

I notice it most when accelerating from 0 mph.

Me too, for about .05 seconds as I accelerate through it in first gear.

Is the torque dip really that big of a deal?

I ask this while fully admitting I have no history of car ownership apart from the bathtub I currently drive. From my point of view, this will be a big upgrade and wouldn't mind since I don't plan on tracking or anything like that.

Not really. If you need to get somewhere, you'll be above it. If you're just cruising in that rpm range, there's still enough oomph to get up and go, just not as much as if you were to downshift.

If it really bothers you after you've been driving the car for a while, a stage 1 flash minimizes it, and a stage 2 flash with header completely eliminates it.

I don't understand how some of you guys haven't noticed the torque dip. It's always been pretty noticeable to me right after I hit 3k RPM's. A header and tune will probably be my next mod to kill it completely. As far as the chirps go, they're pretty much inevitable if you're running E10. Unless Toyobaru completely redesigned the fuel pump, which I highly doubt.

E10, a fuel mixture of 10% anhydrous ethanol and 90% gasoline sometimes called gasohol.... avoid this thing and you wont notice the torque dip and criquets.
The D4S injection accepts but was not made for this

Even though I've pointed out in this thread that I do notice the torque dip, it really is not a big deal to me. Noticeable, yes. If I was drag racing, it'd be a problem. Driving around and enjoying twisty roads with no stops, it's hardly there. I am surprised that people say they don't notice it, particularly when starting from a stop.

As for using ethanol-free gas, that's great for those of you that can do so. We don't have that option here.

That's the first I've heard that. Do you have any sources on that info?

Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_...es#E10_or_less

I meant in regards to the D4S injection on the twins. I guess it makes sense that it was designed to use pure gas. Especially considering ethanol isn't even used in in Japan.

No. Half the fun of this car is driving it well despite its "limitations". Half the people who complain about it can't go a day without bitching about something and the other half suck at driving, IM respectfully submitted O. If you are doing any sort of hooning at all, it's just not an issue. Seeing angry faces in the mirror of much "better" cars when they can't loose you in the turns is where the fun is.

ETA: My "criquets" (make them seem classy!) only ever die completely when running E85. I use a pump lube as well, and it's hit or miss with regular gas and e-free. FWIW, Shell gas is by far the worst for crickets. No idea why. I think it's cavitation in the pump, but I have no idea why some fuel does it and some does not.

That's funny because for me, Shell has kept them quiet most of the time.

Why does everyone make the HPFP noise into a negative thing? It adds character to this car.

It's really cool at meets when 10 or 15 of them are all chirping together.