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Arcade_West 05-11-2015 08:28 AM

Deep sounding cat-back to suit catless UEL headers
 
Hi all, looking for a deep exhaust to suit Tomei UEL headers and catted front pipe. It's hard looking through videos on youtube of heaps of different catbacks, as many are just on stock headers.

So i'm looking for something deep, with no rasp or drone. Beofre it's mentioned, yes I have heard the Q300 and perrin resonated with UEL headers, both sound very raspy when revving. Any ideas?

raven1231 05-11-2015 08:50 AM

Neither sound raspy? I own the Q300 knock off and there is zero rasp with UEL cat less headers? Maybe it's the recording or perhaps the tomei as I have Borla?

raven1231 05-11-2015 08:56 AM

I'll try getting a video of mine today

Arcade_West 05-11-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 2244281)
Neither sound raspy? I own the Q300 knock off and there is zero rasp with UEL cat less headers? Maybe it's the recording or perhaps the tomei as I have Borla?

Both of these are raspy as shit though:
Q300:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoBHq7m0O5I"]Toyota (GT86 BRZ FRS) Borla UEL Headers + Q300 exhaust sound - YouTube[/ame]

Perrin:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__0wEzqIKb8"]Rev Works UEL headers & Perrin exhaust 86/BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

2016 Camaro SS 05-11-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2244274)
Hi all, looking for a deep exhaust to suit Tomei UEL headers and catted front pipe. It's hard looking through videos on youtube of heaps of different catbacks, as many are just on stock headers.

So i'm looking for something deep, with no rasp or drone. Beofre it's mentioned, yes I have heard the Q300 and perrin resonated with UEL headers, both sound very raspy when revving. Any ideas?

Perrin resonated raspy when revving? Mine isn't at all. Unless you heard someone with a catless front pipe, then possibly, but neither of the catbacks you mentioned are raspy normally with a catless UEL header and a catted front pipe.

Arcade_West 05-11-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 2016 Camaro SS (Post 2244299)
Perrin resonated raspy when revving? Mine isn't at all. Unless you heard someone with a catless front pipe, then possibly, but neither of the catbacks you mentioned are raspy normally with a catless UEL header and a catted front pipe.

refer to vids above

Arcade_West 05-11-2015 09:15 AM

i'm not asking for a debate on whether or not these are raspy, I have already stated in the original post that I do not want either of these exhausts

raven1231 05-11-2015 09:30 AM

No idea man I have a full catless setup too. I'll post a video later. The Ikon motorsports exhaust could have a different resonator.

DarkSunrise 05-11-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2244287)

That's a clip of a Perrin non-resonated CBE. The resonated version makes a huge difference in terms of rasp - I've had both. Just an FYI.

Arcade_West 05-11-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2244327)
That's a clip of a Perrin non-resonated CBE. The resonated version makes a huge difference in terms of rasp - I've had both. Just an FYI.

here's a resonated version with catted front pipe.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smh_gQVXLiM"]Rev Works UEL (Unequal Length) Header w/ Perrin Header Back - YouTube[/ame]

DarkSunrise 05-11-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2244331)
here's a resonated version with catted front pipe.
Rev Works UEL (Unequal Length) Header w/ Perrin Header Back - YouTube

Not sure why, but that setup sounds a bit raspier than others I've heard including my own. I think these clips are probably more accurate.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UDkz1PO0QY"]FR-S Tomei Expreme UELs Perrin Exhaust Resonated - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgKXGlQHPgA"]JDL UEL header + Perrin 2.5 CBE sound drive by - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8tLNTxhCYY"]GT86 / JDL UEL Header / Motiv OP & Catted FP / Perrin Resonated CBE - YouTube[/ame]

Arcade_West 05-11-2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2244344)
Not sure why, but that setup sounds a bit raspier than others I've heard including my own. I think these clips are probably more accurate.

FR-S Tomei Expreme UELs Perrin Exhaust Resonated - YouTube

JDL UEL header + Perrin 2.5 CBE sound drive by - YouTube

GT86 / JDL UEL Header / Motiv OP & Catted FP / Perrin Resonated CBE - YouTube

hmm they are quite nice. i wonder why the videos i found sound so different

2016 Camaro SS 05-11-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2244300)
refer to vids above

The videos that you linked, something isn't matching up, like someone said one is an unresonated one.

The ones just above this post are more accurate. The Perrin and Q300 are two of the most popular exhausts for this car in regards to sounding great with a catless header, or really super quiet.


If I find some time, I could video my setup with the JDL UEL, JDL OP, JDL catted FP, and Perrin 2.5" resonated. There isn't a hint of rasp throughout the entire rev band.

ATL BRZ 05-11-2015 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2244274)
Hi all, looking for a deep exhaust to suit Tomei UEL headers and catted front pipe. It's hard looking through videos on youtube of heaps of different catbacks, as many are just on stock headers.

So i'm looking for something deep, with no rasp or drone. Beofre it's mentioned, yes I have heard the Q300 and perrin resonated with UEL headers, both sound very raspy when revving. Any ideas?

Dezod Motorsports 2.5" catback. Resonated and has two sport mufflers. Zero rasp or drone with 2.5" catted front pipe, 2.5" overpipe and JDL uel catless header.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTdb8eTasI0"]Subaru BRZ with JDL UEL header and Dezod catback - YouTube[/ame]

http://i.imgur.com/qQS5lJm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qumLyKh.jpg

Alott53 05-11-2015 11:31 AM

Invidia N1 with stock catted front pipe is my preferred option.

STV3 05-11-2015 12:11 PM

I have the Greddy Supreme Sp cat back. Granted I do have a catted UEL header, but I think this exhaust is pretty good at eliminating rasp.

FRS Greddy Supreme Sp cat-back: [ame]http://youtu.be/9_QCk_kURcI[/ame]

Hagbard 05-11-2015 01:50 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1sh_CvmKk0"]BRZ Revworks Header with Invidia N1 - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSlovsLbDy0"]BRZ Revworks Header with Invidia N1 driving - YouTube[/ame]

My gopro had some bad rattle in its case in the second video near the start and a few places unfortunately

stockysnail 05-12-2015 01:06 AM

Feel free to look at my build thread with the on and off track videos with JDL UEL header with Nameless and Q300 exhausts. The Q300 isn't as raspy when driving vs standing still and reving.

jarednoel 05-12-2015 02:08 AM

Zeta Performance has a really quiet exhaust modeled after the fujitsubo design. :)

GL OP!

Arcade_West 05-12-2015 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2244415)
Dezod Motorsports 2.5" catback. Resonated and has two sport mufflers. Zero rasp or drone with 2.5" catted front pipe, 2.5" overpipe and JDL uel catless header.

Subaru BRZ with JDL UEL header and Dezod catback - YouTube

THIS is the sort of thing i'm after. very nice.

ATL BRZ 05-12-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2245791)
THIS is the sort of thing i'm after. very nice.

It sounds even better at WOT

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avHzGzx1mbQ"]BRZ vs BRZ at Road Atlanta with Hooked on Driving 2/15/15 - YouTube[/ame]

raven1231 05-12-2015 10:45 AM

here's an in cabin video of mine (q300 replica with borla UEL) sorry for terrible cellphone video lol


https://vid.me/73sz


and quick rev up. This was short because it started raining:


https://vid.me/EH6m

snow 05-12-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2245890)

that sounds awesome... dang I miss Road Atlanta.. the back straight and wheelie hill are my two fav places on that track... sweet video!

SirBrass 05-12-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcade_West (Post 2244274)
Hi all, looking for a deep exhaust to suit Tomei UEL headers and catted front pipe. It's hard looking through videos on youtube of heaps of different catbacks, as many are just on stock headers.

So i'm looking for something deep, with no rasp or drone. Beofre it's mentioned, yes I have heard the Q300 and perrin resonated with UEL headers, both sound very raspy when revving. Any ideas?

The greddy axleback will work as well as the Perrin and Q300 and is only an AB, so not as expensive.

HOWEVER, the rasp is coming from your header and needs to be eliminated. That isn't solved with mufflers and midpipe resonator alone.

I solved the issue by getting a hemholtz resonated front pipe. THAT knocks out the rasp. Drone is fixed with a good midpipe resonator and good muffler.

Cjymiller 05-12-2015 02:45 PM

2.5 inch Perrin Headerback, Catted and Resonated with catless openflash headers is the tits. I HATE rasp and I was really worried before putting on the headers but there is literally none. When I'm cruising on the freeway, you can barely tell there is UEL. Give it anything more than 10% throttle and you get rumbles. You should really find some examples to listen to IRL. The videos you posted sound like crap and seem to only pick up the mid and high frequency sound coming out.

Chad86 05-31-2016 12:59 AM

Sounds really good! I am looking at options to quiet down my setup after going full JDL 3" which is not worth it. I'm looking to purchase the Greddy Supreme SP, but I have the JDL catless header. Not sure if the sound will still be overbearing. How is the noise level in your cabin?
Quote:

Originally Posted by STV3 (Post 2244467)
I have the Greddy Supreme Sp cat back. Granted I do have a catted UEL header, but I think this exhaust is pretty good at eliminating rasp.

FRS Greddy Supreme Sp cat-back: http://youtu.be/9_QCk_kURcI


STV3 05-31-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad86 (Post 2666447)
Sounds really good! I am looking at options to quiet down my setup after going full JDL 3" which is not worth it. I'm looking to purchase the Greddy Supreme SP, but I have the JDL catless header. Not sure if the sound will still be overbearing. How is the noise level in your cabin?

I can barely tell I have an exhaust system lol. It's actually more audible at crusing levels then at wot. At wot the sound of the motor is louder than my exhaust. Also there is zero drone.

Chad86 06-04-2016 01:14 AM

I am now looking at Perrin as an option. @Cjymiller are all your other pipes stock other than the catless header and Perrin resonated headerback?

This is the best clip I could find:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz7jiwU4fOs"]BRZ Perrin 2.5 resonated CBE with Catless UEL Header - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UDkz1PO0QY"]FR-S Tomei Expreme UELs Perrin Exhaust Resonated - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMXPuw8DXe0"]Scion FRS with Borla UEL Header and Perrin Catback Exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnEYvkiW5k0"]BRZ w/ JDL UEL & Perrin resonated drive by - YouTube[/ame]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjymiller (Post 2246292)
2.5 inch Perrin Headerback, Catted and Resonated with catless openflash headers is the tits. I HATE rasp and I was really worried before putting on the headers but there is literally none. When I'm cruising on the freeway, you can barely tell there is UEL. Give it anything more than 10% throttle and you get rumbles. You should really find some examples to listen to IRL. The videos you posted sound like crap and seem to only pick up the mid and high frequency sound coming out.


shellslinger 06-04-2016 03:37 AM

My car with Gruppe-S UEL and 2.5 Resonated Perrin C/B sounds just like the video. Everything else is stock.

FirestormFlex 06-04-2016 06:44 AM

Magnaflow cat-back had a great beautiful deep rumble when paired with a Tomei header on my car. That sound is the only thing I miss since going turbo.

Apoc 06-04-2016 12:17 PM

I have JDL headers with ultra quiet front pipe and 3" perrin resonated catback. No issues with rasp or drone. It's loud at wot but not deafening

Chad86 06-09-2016 12:00 AM

You probably have catted headers though, right?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 2670863)
I have JDL headers with ultra quiet front pipe and 3" perrin resonated catback. No issues with rasp or drone. It's loud at wot but not deafening


Apoc 06-09-2016 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad86 (Post 2675180)
You probably have catted headers though, right?

Catless header. Just a HFC in the front pipe.

Keenercarguy 06-09-2016 01:23 AM

Try this one on for size, I've heard a Tomei UEL with the ISIS catback and it sounded fantastic, very deep/mature sound and I heard no drone when I road along.
This is with the JDL UEL instead but the sound is extremely similar. DSPORT Mag also said that this was a great sounding catback, especially for the flow it demonstrated in their tests. DSport did notice some minor fitment issues but since it's soooo much less expensive than its competitors…you'll still save a bunch of money even if you have to have a shop adjust the hangars, and that thing sounds great. I plan on picking one up for myself eventually but for now I can basically only hear it at Cars and Coffee.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtC9ICLFTQ"]JDL UEL Header and ISIS catback brz exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

Songha 06-09-2016 01:51 AM

Doesn't sound raspy in person. Not sure about the video. Feel like N1 paired with Tomei may sound better. But here's mine. 1320 uel, 1320 op, invidia catless frontpipe, invidia n1. Full catless, feel like an ass when I step on it. Cruising really isn't bad at all my the rumble is lovely.

https://youtu.be/-1Iw3jGOeII

neilvosko 10-27-2016 11:25 PM

any gas small with catless headers?

ShadowReaper 10-27-2016 11:28 PM

Dezod Cat Back


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