ATTS Lapping day #1 - May 23rd - Presented by SPDA
 

Spots go on sale immediately for the ATTS Series / Beginner Friendly Track Day brought to you by SPDA-Online.

Experience the Driver Development Track at Canadian Tire Motorsports Park (Mosport). This is a challenging 2.8Km track, redesigned and rebuilt a year ago. To make this day extra special, we're providing coaching for newcomers to motorsports. Nope, this is not a racing event, but a fun day to spend with friends in a low key lapping event where you can safely enjoy the limits of your vehicles.

ATTS Lapping day #1: May 23, 2015
ATTS Lapping day #2: TBD

There will be 4 Run groups, broken out by Skill Level:
Beginner
Intermediate
Advanced
Coaches / Volunteers


We will have Alligator Lapping during lunch time so everyone can experience the track at a leisurely pace.

There are limited spots available. Reserve your spot today by sending PayPal to "treasurer3 (at) spda-online (DOT) ca with the title "ATTS May 23”

Advanced Registration: $215 to May 10th, $240 May 11th to 22nd *
* $20 discount for SPDA members. Non-members get a 50% membership discount after registering for this event.
* $30 discount for students of the SPDA Advanced Driving Clinic

Sharing a car?
+ $40 per driver running in the same run group. Full price for running different run groups.

Confirmed registrations will be posted here:
http://www.spda-online.com/showthrea...n-confirmation

When sending your payment, PLEASE include this information (it makes life easier for everyone!):

Full name
Best email address for future contact
Car make/model
Experience - Beginner (new to track), Intermediate or Advanced

Helmets are required, except during alligator lapping at lunch.

Registered and payment sent, thanks! Any recommendations for a cheap helmet?

Just paid :)

Also, the new PayPal website is sorta confusing, so I didn't put a title of ATTS May 23 in the subject line

Hopefully Mr./Mrs. Treasurer won't have a hard time figuring it out......

JRP has a good selection of helmets. You can find cheaper online from the US, but you can't try them on first. I paid about $300 for my HJC AR10 II, prices might be a bit different now that the dollar has tanked :(

Drew, it should be pretty obvious by the price what you're sending money for.

How many cars per group?

55 spots + volunteers/coaches. Should be 20ish cars per group.

I just signed up as well. And also forgot to put title ATTS May 23rd, i guess i was too excited. 185 for students of driving clinic is an amazing deal, thanks a lot guys and see you at the track

Yupp, Trevor got it.

Also, @bottle I got an HJC CL-16, which is half the price but if you do step up to more serious lapping, the rating won't cover other tracks

Woohoo! I'm registered and can't wait! See you guys at the track!

I'm registered, just waiting for confirmation. Looks like FT86 will be dominant again at this event!

We're taking over!

Just a heads up, beginner spots are almost all gone. Sign up fast if you're hoping to get one!

Not sure why I can't edit the original post, but here's a poster for interest!

http://www.spda-online.ca/images/atts-1-2015.jpg

Really great to see so many 86's out for the Advanced Drivers Clinic, and should be another great turnout for the ATTS lapping day too! Right now I'm double booked for that weekend, but I'm hoping I can shift it around and come out to the track with you guys.

I recognize a few of you already that have signed up for a SPDA membership, I processed a big batch of memberships this evening.

I was in a rush when i signed up so did not fill experience or car model etc. Should i contact anyone? I prefer to be in beginner group as only experience i have was the advaced driver clinic

Haha, Daniel emailed us and might move me to Intermediate to make more room in the beginner session.

Yeah you were out last year for this I thought.

Daniel moved you since you were out for the lapping day last year. I'll gladly ride along with you if you want though!

Sergio, you should've received an email from Daniel to confirm which car you're driving.

Yes i got the email thanks s lot. Just realized i am going to scion vip track day before this so hopefully will have a little experience

@Trac Toy @wparsons

Yes, I did go last year but I really like the instruction, especially compared to other places with very detailed instruction (ILR, Hanson)

I know I can definitely drive in the intermediate, but IMHO it never hurts to have someone come along

You definitely won't be left high and dry in Intermediate, there will be lots of people on hand to come along for a ride. Especially if you've been out lapping before, I wouldn't worry about being bumped up a class. Beginner's is really intended for those who are on a track for the first time ever, getting them up to speed safely and comfortably.

Does anyone know if HJC CL-17 is an okay investment in the long run? I don't plan on doing any competitions, just open lapping days + maybe some autox. Just want something certified that will get me by.
@BryceRocket, I paid the SPDA Auto Clinic discount price, but didn't include another $20 for the 50% off SPDA membership after. Anyway I can send it over? Thanks

@bottle

Yes. I have the -16 and it's a bit heavy but lapping and AX don't have overly long sessions where your neck gets tired

If anyone needs a helmet, Royal Distributing has a great sale going on now until May 3rd. Tax Off + Red Tag.

That's true about the instruction drew, it's generally an invaluable resource. But like Bryce says being bumped up is a good thing.

@bottle - Sent you a PM we'll sort it out.

Everyone is welcome to instruction, it's just required for the beginners until they have a good grasp of what they're doing.

Also don't be afraid to ask for a ride along in coaches cars!

soooo pumped. First track day of the season!

So far almost half the registered cars are FRS/BRZ, bring on more!

Registered as soon as it opened yesterday (I'm Jesung). If the advanced driving clinic was any indication, this will be a great day. Gotta get my brakes upgraded by then though!

Awesome, I'll see you there!

Never a bad idea to upgrade your pads and fluid, but you should be pretty ok on stock brakes for a first lapping day. I would still try to get them done before, but it's no reason to not come if you can't get parts in time for any reason.

From my beginner experience last year, with hybrid pads and better fluid, the stock tires got greasy by the end and were more limiting.

Watching @BatStig video where he is braking downhill and wheels are locking is exactly what I was experiencing. Also the same looseness on corner exit haha. I didn't slap my steering wheel though

Three years on the OEM rubber was a great learning experience, but you can't brake worth a damn without activating ABS and they definitely do get greasy!

I FINALLY upgraded my rubber to 215-45-17 RE11A's and after one track day I am very happy with them. My braking zones are bordering on ridiculous now. They rate at which I am able to outbrake other cars is crazy! I was having a ball through turns 13-16.

All that said, my right foot still can't behave itself through the hairpin.

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I hope I can figure out a way to make it to this lapping day. Damn, do I love the DDT!

^^ It would be awesome if you could make it, then I can hear the header from inside the car!

I'm trying! GF's birthday the 22nd and there's work the day of. I need to get my shit straight! Somebody sacrifice a Prius to get the car Gods on my side.

Just curious how you're able to draw a slip angle comparison between the two tires??? What vertical load is that based on? Do you have access to a tire testing machine? Or is this comparison solely based on your feeling? Seems rather strange to state "slip angle" as a comparison point w o tire data. Id be surprised (and impressed) if you weren't describing g's and tire slippage.

Holy fourth degree, Batman! I am not trying to compare tires. I am not trying to make a detailed review. I have no data showing vertical loads, G's or slippage. No testing equipment. I just made a simple observation based on how they felt.

I don't want to derail this thread for a lapping day with an analytical discussion of "slip angles" and such. That discussion is better suited for this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84188

I will edit my post and see my way out with one last bit on topic: I hope I am able to get my shit straight and join everyone at this event! Looks like a good time and DAMN do I love the DDT!

Annnnnd the beginner spots are sold out, still some space in the intermediate and advanced run groups.

NOOOOOOOOOOO

Sorry!!! What's your experience level? Beginner is really meant for people that have zero track experience. If you've been on a track before and know how to follow a decent line then you'll be totally fine in the intermediate group.

If you're a total beginner and still interested, shoot me your full name, email and car and I'll add you to the wait list.

@wparsons to make space, I'm happy to move up a class, did a school last summer but wanted to run with friends but would like everyone to come :) will PM you.