Supercharged fr-s vs mustang
 

Supercharged fr-s with upgraded tires vs stock mustang and mustang GT on a tight track, and on a drag strip?

Who wins and by how many seconds??

FRS depending on track, Mustang on drag.

FR-S by 30 seconds.


-Will

these questions are so stupid....what supercharger? what belt? what tires? who is driving? what year mustang? what gas? how much gas? how much does the driver weigh? ect.. Way too many variables and not enough information

The answer is 42 seconds obviously. But if one of the FR-S's rear tires is over-inflated by 1.5 psi, it will spin out and the Mustang will win. Book it.

Obviously it depends on which video game you are playing.

Are we talking Forza and if so, which one?

Or are we talking Gran Turismo?

Yes

This should answer your question.

https://youtu.be/GnBAd2xulSY

FR-S wins vs. a 5.slow

Eh the only reason it was even close is because the BRZ driver was a MUCH better driver than the Mustang driver.
Even with the huge disparity between drivers the BRZ still did not really stand a chance.

Before that video creates any confusion, that BRZ doesn't have a supercharger. Nor is that a Mustang GT. RA isn't a tight track either. :)

That's a NA BRZ on e85 versus a Boss 302 LS. Agree on the better driver in the BRZ though.

My reason for posting was if the BRZ had a supercharger I dont think it would have been close at all. He wouldn't have lost so much of the lead in the straights if he had more power.

Also correct me if im wrong the 302>GT?

You still have to extrapolate quite a bit to get there though.

- How much speed would the BRZ have gained on the straights with a SC?
- How much faster would the Boss 302 LS have been with a better driver?
- How much faster is the Boss 302 LS vs. a regular GT?
- How do you translate times from RA to a tighter track?

And then there are a few practical questions to ask, such as:

- Would the BRZ's brakes have held up?
- Would the BRZ have had sufficient cooling?

It's a fun video (and the sound of that BRZ is :wub:), but didn't want anyone to think that was actually a supercharged BRZ vs. Mustang GT.

I can respect everything posted

Nothing beats any year any model mustang.
When mustang downshifts, causes earth shake to every corner of the world.

That Boss 302 is a big step up from any Mustang GT of that generation, they aimed at taking on the M3 of that year (I believe that was the outgoing V8 M3) and as far as the numbers tell succeeded.

The way Ford tells it their goal with the current generation is to have a 2015 GT match or exceed the performance of the Boss 302 from '12-'13, which is entirely possible and downright easy with some very sticky tires.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEhnugwzCc"]M3 Killer! Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laps Laguna Seca - YouTube[/ame]


But as evidenced in the video with the E85 BRZ the driver can make all the difference. For reference, pro driver with a stock 86 is in the 1:51 range around Laguna Seca, a Spec Miata which involves nearly stock power but with racing slicks, weight reduction and other goodies can do 1:45.

Buy the car you like driving better, as that will be the better vehicle. If you're going stoplight racing you'll probably be frustrated with the Toyobaru, if you go AutoX-ing you'll probably be frustrated with the Mustang. These cars are designed to be better at one than the other it's a fact and no amount of money will completely eliminate the imbalance.

That thing about judging a fish by it's ability to climb a tree or whatever.

I've been for a ridealong in a Boss 302, would never consider exchanging my FR-S for it, I (personally) simply cannot deal with the size and weight of the thing. Sidenote: that kind of speed means that every little bit from the tires to the bolts holding the suspension need that extra mile to handle the loads, the dollars add up quick. Quality DD-friendly sticky tires can be had for the 86 mounted up on stock wheels for <$600, same/similar compound on the Boss 302 is going to be $1,000+.

If it is in tight track, i bet frs will take advantage of 1 entire lap

Edit: if it is on the touge (initial d rules) frs will outrun the mustang

i hope thats sarcasm but with this forum i can never quite tell.

I guess your comparing frs stock, op said a supercharger frs and i will assume 350-400hp
so yes frs will have the best power weight ratio including the handling for outcome the turns
for the touge... the frs was made for it.

Hey to be honest I've pulled on a 2012 GT.....until 3rd gear lol

im not really going to get into it, but know that i am laughing. not at you particularly. just the fact that this situation exists in general.

is the mustang fwd or awd?

@Shutter

FWD with electric motors powering the rear Live axle.