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wallace03 06-14-2012 01:13 AM

opti coat + clear bra
 
would it be wise/suggested to opti coat your car and then get clear bra? im thinking about getting it done on the side to protect it from people that might try to key my car. also is 3M the best choice for clear bra?

Fish 06-14-2012 01:17 AM

You can't put a clear bra over the opticoat. It can't adhere to it. You would need to put the bra first, then opticoat.

eikond 06-14-2012 02:09 AM

Opticoat then clear bra then gloss plastidip, then wrap in cellophane, then cover in white shipping plastic, then enclose in shipping container and place in a pole barn. Then maybe it will be safe from rock chips!

7thgear 06-14-2012 08:45 AM

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Reflections 06-14-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 257362)
You can't put a clear bra over the opticoat. It can't adhere to it. You would need to put the bra first, then opticoat.

Incorrect. The opti-Coat doesn't prevent adhesion of the clear bra.

Chris@Optimum: Yes, it will be fine and cause no problems. You can use a solvent as usual to prep and go ahead as you normally do. Now, if you remove a clear bra that had OC applied up to, but not under the edges you will have to compound down the line and reapply to the area. You can also apply OC directly to the clearbra material to maintain a fresh new look that will not fade/yellow.

Source: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...protection.htm

Fish 06-14-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflections (Post 257793)
Incorrect. The opti-Coat doesn't prevent adhesion of the clear bra.

Chris@Optimum: Yes, it will be fine and cause no problems. You can use a solvent as usual to prep and go ahead as you normally do. Now, if you remove a clear bra that had OC applied up to, but not under the edges you will have to compound down the line and reapply to the area. You can also apply OC directly to the clearbra material to maintain a fresh new look that will not fade/yellow.

Source: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...protection.htm

Ah, thanks. I was going off memory from what Mike told me.

wallace03 06-14-2012 11:40 PM

Thanks. i think i will go get my car detailed, then opti coated. not sure if i want to pay for clear bra though.

CU2MIKE 06-14-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflections (Post 257793)
Incorrect. The opti-Coat doesn't prevent adhesion of the clear bra.

Chris@Optimum: Yes, it will be fine and cause no problems. You can use a solvent as usual to prep and go ahead as you normally do. Now, if you remove a clear bra that had OC applied up to, but not under the edges you will have to compound down the line and reapply to the area. You can also apply OC directly to the clearbra material to maintain a fresh new look that will not fade/yellow.

Source: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...protection.htm

Thanks! I remembered wrong :(

Hamza7 06-17-2012 08:36 PM

Wrong Wrong Wrong.

- Opti Coat
- Clear Bra
- Opti Coat
- Permanon Platinum 3-4/year

Don't try to anal rape the car in front, try to fall back or get a car in front of you if there's a dump truck carrying any type of debris...

That's how you avoid rock chips and even then there's a chance for them "attacking"...

Remember there's no shame in driving your car like a car but it never hurts to be extra pre-cautious.

BRZ88 06-18-2012 04:38 PM

How about xpel ultimate films? Opti coat them clear bra? I think I read somewhere that xpel ultimate films are not recommended with opti coat.

ubersoph 06-18-2012 04:44 PM

Need to add "Don't smash into cones" ;)

bryansbestwax 06-18-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflections (Post 257793)
Incorrect. The opti-Coat doesn't prevent adhesion of the clear bra.

Chris@Optimum: Yes, it will be fine and cause no problems. You can use a solvent as usual to prep and go ahead as you normally do. Now, if you remove a clear bra that had OC applied up to, but not under the edges you will have to compound down the line and reapply to the area. You can also apply OC directly to the clearbra material to maintain a fresh new look that will not fade/yellow.

Source: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...protection.htm

I dont disagree fully but i have had 2 cutomers have ahesion issues especially on smaller fender pieces. I would suggest after bra install to ne 100% sure. Thats just from experience. I have done about 70 opticoats and only 2 out of 30 had issues with the clearbra afterwards

BRZ88 06-18-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryansbestwax (Post 264923)
I dont disagree fully but i have had 2 cutomers have ahesion issues especially on smaller fender pieces. I would suggest after bra install to ne 100% sure. Thats just from experience. I have done about 70 opticoats and only 2 out of 30 had issues with the clearbra afterwards

If opticoat is applied AFTER the clear bra installation (xpel ultimate), can they overlap? or would you have to opticoat all parts of the car BUT the areas that are protected with clear bra?

bryansbestwax 06-18-2012 11:20 PM

If its the ultimate i would tape off the bra and do only the paint. Opticoat may affect the self healimg properties that are in the bra layer

Aznek 06-19-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamza7 (Post 263197)
Wrong Wrong Wrong.

- Opti Coat
- Clear Bra
- Opti Coat
- Permanon Platinum 3-4/year

Don't try to anal rape the car in front, try to fall back or get a car in front of you if there's a dump truck carrying any type of debris...

That's how you avoid rock chips and even then there's a chance for them "attacking"...

Remember there's no shame in driving your car like a car but it never hurts to be extra pre-cautious.

I spoke with Jeff at AudioHeaven today and he told me they cannot install it over Opti-coat, said it wouldn't stick...

Hamza7 06-19-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aznek (Post 267051)
I spoke with Jeff at AudioHeaven today and he told me they cannot install it over Opti-coat, said it wouldn't stick...

Do you happen to know what brand of wrap he is using?

Aznek 06-19-2012 06:46 PM

http://www.audioheaven.ca/ventureshield.html
Venture shield

bryansbestwax 06-19-2012 08:33 PM

Ya ventureshield has issues. The two customerw both went venturreshiele. My last poat ia a bit wrong. I did two before installs ans they both had issues. The others had it applier right after install.

Aznek 06-19-2012 08:51 PM

What would you recommend in place of Venture Shield?

bryansbestwax 06-19-2012 11:05 PM

I dont think it matters. Just do it after install

rawbz 06-20-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamza7 (Post 267074)
Do you happen to know what brand of wrap he is using?

Do different brands have different ability to stick to opti-coat? Which brand is best , 3M?

Anyone know a good installer in GTA?

brianc 06-21-2012 07:09 AM

Just don't follow people so close on the freeway. Works for me.. Was never a fan of Opti Coat. It's like permanent wax for lazy people. I love waxing my car.


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