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dssence 04-10-2015 03:32 PM

Scion FRS Laser headlights like Audi R8 ?
 
Hi I was just wondering if any of you know of any laser style headlights with laser bar for our scion frs or in my case Toyota 86 GT. It would be a real cool addition to our cars.

Tcoat 04-10-2015 03:35 PM

A quick search does not seem to show any. Probably cost more than the car anyway!


http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f1/f19cd...6d1aa164ab.jpg

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 04-10-2015 03:37 PM

Like KITT from Knight Rider?

https://cdn-360-content.s3.amazonaws...ight-Rider.jpg

(Yes I purposely chose the image with Hasselhoff)

Tcoat 04-10-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit of Caerbonnog (Post 2207801)
Like KITT from Knight Rider?



(Yes I purposely chose the image with Hasselhoff)

https://38.media.tumblr.com/2b87f597...wio8o1_500.gif

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 04-10-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2207810)

Dang Cylons! Also, quickest derail ever!

Tcoat 04-10-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit of Caerbonnog (Post 2207811)
Dang Cylons! Also, quickest derail ever!

Well unless somebody can find something I couldn't the question was answered in my first reply.
Not like it is something that can be developed in Joes Auto Parts.
(OP is right they are pretty cool though)

tennisfreak 04-10-2015 03:53 PM

Found it OP here is what you want:

http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007...canner-car.jpg

BOOM

Tcoat 04-10-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisfreak (Post 2207828)
Found it OP here is what you want:

http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007...canner-car.jpg

BOOM

Is that what happens when the Borg assimilate cars?


http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=en

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 04-10-2015 04:06 PM

I tried resistance once, it was futile.

Clipdat 04-10-2015 04:29 PM

You want this shit?

http://1.design-milk.com/images/2014...headlights.jpg

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/2...-RAV4-VIGO.jpg

fang_gt86 04-10-2015 04:40 PM

Give the guy a break. lol
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11-SPeOtCuw"]Audi Sport quattro laserlight Concept - YouTube[/ame]

ZOMFGAARON 04-10-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fang_gt86 (Post 2207890)


So this headlight has 3 functions ? Low beams, high beams, and laser light? Shit.


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Rabbit of Caerbonnog 04-10-2015 05:13 PM

I wish it would go 'pew pew pew' when you use your blinkers. It'll give people an incentive to actually signal.

vividracing 04-10-2015 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2207790)
Hi I was just wondering if any of you know of any laser style headlights with laser bar for our scion frs or in my case Toyota 86 GT. It would be a real cool addition to our cars.

This is way too advanced to be available on the market other than high priced super cars like the R8. For example, the HID's that are standard on our cars have only been around since the mid-1990's and only one or two cars had them. By 2005 only about 95 models of cars worldwide had HID's, now nearly all car companies have HID's standard in most of their cars, only the cheapest economy cars don't have them, but in another 5 years I suspect they all will as the price gets low enough, traditional bulbs for head lights at least will be eliminated from the market.

That being said because the new technology out is using LED's which are more powerful and intense, cheaper and more versatile. They're practically everywhere, most cars now have LED's in their taillights, and even more cars have them at least in their 3rd brake light. Technology is getting to a point where LED's can be viable in head lights, but right now only for expensive cars, why? Because of cost for one thing, but mainly because the more intense the LEDs, the more heat management and durability of the LED's is required, requiring highly machined and ventilated heatsinks in an already hot engine bay. I can see 10 years from now, LED headlights will be standard on at least half the car models available, much quicker than HID's were because car companies are already used to LED's in car applications and can engineer systems quicker, while HID's were specific to headlights only.

Now with laser systems, the engineering required is incredibly high, the technology is far too advanced and expensive for anything other than super cars. Maybe 25 years from now most cars will have laser head lights.

What's next after that? Audi or some other company will introduce a new technology for headlights. Maybe in 25 years we won't even NEED headlights, we may just have night vision in our cars, and an image of what's outside will be displayed on the entire windshield as if it's daylight outside.

-RyanG

Muaddib 04-10-2015 05:21 PM

Moar pew pew less qq.

dssence 04-10-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2207878)

Exaaactly :) right. But it's something found on Audi R8 . closest I could find were these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shiny-Smoked...be0e34&vxp=mtr

OnkelC 04-10-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2207810)

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...s/cylonpic.jpg

vividracing 04-10-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2207979)
Exaaactly :) right. But it's something found on Audi R8 . closest I could find were these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shiny-Smoked...be0e34&vxp=mtr

Sorry to burst your bubble but those aren't lasers like the Audi R8, they're just LED's set up to look like a laser light from one end to the other of the boomerang. Think like how a neon light works, a power source on one end and the light transmits from there to the end of the bulb. They for sure as hell don't shoot out a white laser beam for visibility like the R8 does.

If you think that's what they do, I'd suggest doing some homework, you're not even close to what the R8 has. I promise you there are no such products like the Audi R8's laser lights available for anything, universal or otherwise. You would have to spend several (hundred) thousand dollars on a custom engineered and built kit.

They're lasers and lasers are srs biznis.

-RyanG

dssence 04-10-2015 05:42 PM

Come on, can't we just be serious on the matter.

tahdizzle 04-10-2015 05:42 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...p;d=1428110115

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vividracing 04-10-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2207994)

HID's with a fancy pants lens.

dssence 04-10-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 2207992)
Sorry to burst your bubble but those aren't lasers like the Audi R8, they're just LED's set up to look like a laser light from one end to the other of the boomerang. Think like how a neon light works, a power source on one end and the light transmits from there to the end of the bulb. They for sure as hell don't shoot out a white laser beam for visibility like the R8 does.

If you think that's what they do, I'd suggest doing some homework, you're not even close tto whathe R8 has. I promise you there are no such products like the Audi R8's laser lights available for anything, universal or otherwise. You would have to spend several (dozen) thousand dollars on a custom built kit.

Exactly that's what I thought it seems like some sort of CCFL tube , the seller it's tricking here. By the way do you have some specific brands for FRS or Toyo86 GT headlights, i'm trying to find ones which look decent on my car I got an argento 86, which clear chrome headlights not even winjet ones. I wanted to replace for these ones which will make it look much better.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-14-WINJET...ae52e5&vxp=mtr

But I think they look kindda cheap. I also want these ones to make it work with a xenon kit or a good LED kit but it's hard to find a decent LED kit with good lumens output and besides that for a LED to reach the same distance as xenon-hids you need an optic enclosure designed speifically for the led die.
I do realise you're into the subject and have knowledge so let's start discussing :)
:laughabove:

tahdizzle 04-10-2015 05:51 PM

I like those fancy pants lenses!

vividracing 04-10-2015 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2208002)
Exactly that's what I thought it seems like some sort of CCFL tube , the seller it's tricking here. By the way do you have some specific brands for FRS or Toyo86 GT headlights, i'm trying to find ones which look decent on my car I got an argento 86, which clear chrome headlights not even winjet ones. I wanted to replace for these ones which will make it look much better.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-14-WINJET...ae52e5&vxp=mtr

But I think they look kindda cheap. I also want these to make with a xenon kit or a good LED kit but it's hard to find a decent LED kit with good lumens output and besides that for a LED to reach the same distance as xenon-hids you need an optic enclosure designed speifically for the led die.
I'm realise you're into the subject and have knowledge so let's start discussing :)
:laughabove:

I know a little bit about everything and I happen to know a bit about LED's, HID's and Lasers. I don't actually know how to make them and I wouldn't even try. The technical challenge of making an LED system bright enough to use as a headlight is too difficult unless you're a mechanical and electrical engineer. I am sure that to make an LED headlight you need a fancy lens. The housing and heat sinks required for LED's, and especially a laser, is technically challenging in an already hot engine bay.

If you want a laser system, you also need either an HID or LED system as a laser cannot spread out very wide, it's very focused by default, which is why they work great at extreme distance, you actually need a lens that spreads the laser out because it's so focused. The HID or LED system will be your standard low beams and high beams and the Laser your extreme distance low beams. A laser system high beam would blind anybody looking directly at it, like a hand held laser does.

Sorry, it's just not in your future, unless you're rich, in which case just buy an Audi R8 /problemsolved

-RyanG

Tcoat 04-10-2015 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2207993)
Come on, can't we just be serious on the matter.

Dude, you asked a very specific question and got very specific answers. I refer you back to post #2 as a start.

dssence 04-10-2015 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 2208025)
I know a little bit about everything and I happen to know a bit about LED's, HID's and Lasers. I don't actually know how to make them and I wouldn't even try. The technical challenge of making an LED system bright enough to use as a headlight is too difficult unless you're a mechanical and electrical engineer. I am sure that to make an LED headlight you need a fancy lens. The housing and heat sinks required for LED's, and especially a laser, is technically challenging in an already hot engine bay.

If you want a laser system, you also need either an HID or LED system as a laser cannot spread out very wide, it's very focused by default, which is why they work great at extreme distance, you actually need a lens that spreads the laser out because it's so focused. The HID or LED system will be your standard low beams and high beams and the Laser your extreme distance low beams. A laser system high beam would blind anybody looking directly at it, like a hand held laser does.

Sorry, it's just not in your future, unless you're rich, in which case just buy an Audi R8 /problemsolved

-RyanG

Thanks for such a complete answer, and taking your time to discuss the matter. Listen if you had to find a good LED option for your FRS what would you go for? . All this understanding how leds work requiring a special optic framework to focus the beamlight in order to achieve a maxmum distance.
I've seen what you can buy on the market its mostly CREE do you know any other quality brand. ?
Thanks

Dezoris 04-10-2015 06:43 PM

Impractical to adapt at this point.

http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/laser-pow...adlights-2.jpg

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BMW states on its i8 Concept Web site: "The intensity of laser light poses no possible risks to humans, animals or wildlife when used in car lighting. Amongst other things, this is because the light is not emitted directly, but is first converted into a form that is suitable for use in road traffic. The resulting light is very bright and white. It's also very pleasant to the eye and has very low energy consumption." To prove its point, BMW even had one of its own engineers, and then journalists, peer into the lens of a lit headlight laser assembly. Both emerged from the experiment with their visual acuity none the worse for wear

vividracing 04-10-2015 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2208085)
Thanks for such a complete answer, and taking your time to discuss the matter. Listen if you had to find a good LED option for your FRS what would you go for? . All this understanding how leds work requiring a special optic framework to focus the beamlight in order to achieve a maxmum distance.
I've seen what you can buy on the market its mostly CREE do you know any other quality brand. ?
Thanks

If there was an LED system available I'd buy it only if I had to, I'm satisfied with HID's. I don't know of any specific LED's that could work for you.

-RyanG

Gunman 04-10-2015 07:02 PM

Audi has been using the laser lights on their LMP cars for a couple years now.
http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/vor...high-beam.html

We looked for better lights for the Viper GTLM cars, and the best we could find was the Hella Xenon and Led setups. We tested them all, and ran a combo, that varied depending on the track reqts.
http://www.hella.com/hella-com/620.html?rdeLocale=en

8R6 04-10-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2207979)
Exaaactly :) right. But it's something found on Audi R8 . closest I could find were these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shiny-Smoked...be0e34&vxp=mtr

totally the same. seems legit.

NyC Zn6 04-10-2015 07:48 PM

Here you go
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCfBio4QKM"]INTEC FULL LED HEAD LIGHT - YouTube[/ame]

Tromatic 04-10-2015 07:51 PM

I'd like an LRAD horn as well.

dssence 04-10-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2208168)


YESSSS here you go wayy much better, and they don't feel cheap quality.
Which brand is it?

ZOMFGAARON 04-11-2015 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dssence (Post 2208425)
YESSSS here you go wayy much better, and they don't feel cheap quality.
Which brand is it?


Did you watch the video?

intecjapan.co.jp/product/hl-z6.html



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Teseo 04-11-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2207994)

Its me or looks like transformers eye? Anyway i like it

Packofcrows 04-11-2015 05:04 PM

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...sunglasses.gif

Braces 04-11-2015 05:57 PM

Pretty sure only Euro spec R8s have the laser headlight option. Illegal here in the good ole Murica.

Tcoat 04-11-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2208975)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzzcuknyRL1qfvdpl.gif

Zhangy 04-12-2015 11:58 PM

laser lights are outdated try plasma/anti-matter lights holy shit

dssence 04-13-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhangy (Post 2210143)
laser lights are outdated try plasma/anti-matter lights holy shit

haha and dark energy you missed.


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