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Superchan 04-06-2015 01:07 PM

Getting rid of my mustang
 
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...febb5eb72a.jpg

That's my baby, an 05 GT that just hit 20k miles. Hopefully be getting a call today for a 15 frs in black.

Made the trade because the mustang handles like a freight train. SRA isn't good for back roads here. Just want something light, sporty, that handles exceptionally. Don't plan to mod too much besides wider and stickier tires, maybe a few cosmetics. Tiny chance of an ls swap. Tiny, and not for a long way down the road.

if any of you are in the belleville area of IL, be looking for me. :)

86geek 04-06-2015 01:39 PM

hmmmm......

Superchan 04-06-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 2201034)
hmmmm......

Mmmm?

Tcoat 04-06-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 2201034)
hmmmm......

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201061)
Mmmm?

Are you guys doing yoga or something?

http://www.onlineyogaguide.com/wp-co...ronic-Pain.jpg

Superchan 04-06-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2201067)
Are you guys doing yoga or something?

http://www.onlineyogaguide.com/wp-co...ronic-Pain.jpg

Peace of mind, body, and chasis

gramicci101 04-06-2015 02:16 PM

What were you doing that a 2005 mustang only has 20K miles on it? Backing down the driveway and pulling back in for ten years?

Superchan 04-06-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2201096)
What were you doing that a 2005 mustang only has 20K miles on it? Backing down the driveway and pulling back in for ten years?

I bought it 2 years ago and it had 5k Miles on it. Friend at Plaza Motors took it in from some old guy on a trade in for a new lexus. I bought it the same day.

gramicci101 04-06-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201109)
I bought it 2 years ago and it had 5k Miles on it. Friend at Plaza Motors took it in from some old guy on a trade in for a new lexus. I bought it the same day.

Wow, sounds like the previous owner wasn't even backing it down the driveway. Hopefully he drives his Lexus a little more frequently.

Superchan 04-06-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2201118)
Wow, sounds like the previous owner wasn't even backing it down the driveway. Hopefully he drives his Lexus a little more frequently.

From what they said he had bought it for his wife, but she didn't want it. I had to get the mileage verified and it checked out, it was bone stock, still is. Really was a great find after I totaled my Infiniti lol

DarkSunrise 04-06-2015 02:49 PM

Welcome! I like those Bullitt style wheels on the Mustang btw.

Superchan 04-06-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2201144)
Welcome! I like those Bullitt style wheels on the Mustang btw.

Thank you! They came with it, I'm personally not a chrome guy but they do look good.

Just got a call from the dealer, frs will be in in about 2 hours!

Edit: I got an auto. Mustang is a manual. too much traffic, did not enjoy as much as I would've wanted. Test drove an auto, very happy.

svtfever 04-06-2015 03:42 PM

Im making the same switch. I had owned a 2012 Boss 302 for about a year. It was a great car but expensive to drive everyday. Im going from big power V8 muscle to what I like to think of as REALISTIC fun. Cheaper car, cheaper oil, cheaper gas, cheaper insurance, etc.. and I could have as much fun with an FRS on the street/ track as a mustang or related car.

Superchan 04-06-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by svtfever (Post 2201220)
Im making the same switch. I had owned a 2012 Boss 302 for about a year. It was a great car but expensive to drive everyday. Im going from big power V8 muscle to what I like to think of as REALISTIC fun. Cheaper car, cheaper oil, cheaper gas, cheaper insurance, etc.. and I could have as much fun with an FRS on the street/ track as a mustang or related car.

Cars like we have never really get to be opened up either, not unless you're on a big long track which I definitely don't have access too around here.

I just hate how I cringe at every bump I go over at speed because I'm busy worrying about the back end hopping up and kicking out if I'm turning.

strat61caster 04-06-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by svtfever (Post 2201220)
Cheaper car, cheaper oil, cheaper gas, cheaper insurance, etc.. and I could have as much fun with an FRS on the street/ track as a mustang or related car.

Just an FYI an oil change for the 86 is >5 quarts and it being 0W-20 it's difficult to find quality oil less than about $7/qt, not sure what the Mustang was at but including a filter (OEM is generally recommended and not that expensive at ~$9) you're up to around $50-$60 for an oil change on the 86 unless you go for cheap oil or jiffy lube places, but since you're tracking I'd avoid those like the plague. Insurance varies more on location, amount driven and your personal profile than type of car driven.

But yes, averaging >25 mpg without even trying even with sticky tires and me driving like an idiot. And with many parts being shared with various Toyota's and Subaru's parts will likely be cheaper if/when they break.

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2201238)
Just an FYI an oil change for the 86 is >5 quarts and it being 0W-20 it's difficult to find quality oil less than about $7/qt, not sure what the Mustang was at but including a filter (OEM is generally recommended and not that expensive at ~$9) you're up to around $50-$60 for an oil change on the 86 unless you go for cheap oil or jiffy lube places, but since you're tracking I'd avoid those like the plague. Insurance varies more on location, amount driven and your personal profile than type of car driven.

But yes, averaging >25 mpg without even trying even with sticky tires and me driving like an idiot. And with many parts being shared with various Toyota's and Subaru's parts will likely be cheaper if/when they break.

Last oil and filter change ran me around 90 from valvoline. Full synthetic with filter.

DAEMANO 04-06-2015 04:17 PM

Odds on OP being F.I. in the first 12 months?

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2201272)
Odds on OP being F.I. in the first 12 months?

Educate OP on definition of F.I. and he will inform you of a time frame for said thing.

Tcoat 04-06-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201274)
Educate OP on definition of F.I. and he will inform you of a time frame for said thing.

Turbo/supercharger = Forced Induction

From what you have said so far I would say odds are against. You had the "more power" and saw the drawbacks.

gramicci101 04-06-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201274)
Educate OP on definition of F.I. and he will inform you of a time frame for said thing.

Forced induction. A supercharger or turbocharger. There are great kits out for both of them, if you want to go that way.

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2201277)
Turbo/supercharger = Forced Induction

From what you have said so far I would say odds are against. You had the "more power" and saw the drawbacks.

It's a consideration, but I like naturally aspirated, would never want any lag and reliability is key. I'd have to do a lot more research and educate myself before moving to forced induction

Shedd22 04-06-2015 04:23 PM

Or OP could just buy one and ship it to me. Seems like the right thing to do.

Braces 04-06-2015 04:24 PM

OP:

Did you by chance test drive the NEW Mustangs? If so ... curious how it compared with your prior GT.

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2201289)
OP:

Did you by chance test drive the NEW Mustangs? If so ... curious how it compared with your prior GT.

It's a whole new car, wonderful to drive. I'd recommend it to someone over a 14 mustang any day.

Tcoat 04-06-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201306)
It's a whole new car, wonderful to drive. I'd recommend it to someone over a 14 mustang any day.

Yet you went with the FRS so that says volumes.

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2201314)
Yet you went with the FRS so that says volumes.

It's personal taste. I love big v8 cars, but I miss having a lightweight sports car. And for the same total money I could make the frs a lot faster in every aspect. Plus the end price. I got a really, really good deal for the frs.

Dadhawk 04-06-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201284)
It's a consideration, but I like naturally aspirated, would never want any lag and reliability is key. I'd have to do a lot more research and educate myself before moving to forced induction

Then if you go this route you will want a supercharger, not a turbocharger, as superchargers eliminate lag (the lag in a turbocharger is caused by it being powered by exhaust gases, while a supercharger is powered by the crankshaft).

As far as reliability, well, that all depends on the quality of the installation and how much you want to pump up the boost. A relatively modest bump should not have a large impact on reliability. if you start trying to get 400HP out of your engine though, you are going to have to start looking at other internals.

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2201321)
Then if you go this route you will want a supercharger, not a turbocharger, as superchargers eliminate lag (the lag in a turbocharger is caused by it being powered by exhaust gases, while a supercharger is powered by the crankshaft).

As far as reliability, well, that all depends on the quality of the installation and how much you want to pump up the boost. A relatively modest bump should not have a large impact on reliability. if you start trying to get 400HP out of your engine though, you are going to have to start looking at other internals.

If I wanted over 400bhp I'd swap for an ls motor, but I think that might be overkill haha. And I know a supercharger would be the way to go, I just wouldn't know where to start. For now I'll just enjoy it as is

Dadhawk 04-06-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201306)
It's a whole new car, wonderful to drive. I'd recommend it to someone over a 14 mustang any day.

That's why I haven't taken MomHawk to test drive one. She is very happy with her low mileage '05 Mustang (she only drives about 6,000 a year in her DD) so no reason to create a need...

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2201324)
That's why I haven't taken MomHawk to test drive one. She is very happy with her low mileage '05 Mustang (she only drives about 6,000 a year in her DD) so no reason to create a need...

Yeah don't do it. Trust me.

Dadhawk 04-06-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201323)
If I wanted over 400bhp I'd swap for an ls motor, but I think that might be overkill haha. And I know a supercharger would be the way to go, I just wouldn't know where to start. For now I'll just enjoy it as is

Yea, that's exactly what I would do as well, if I blew the engine for some reason tomorrow, or pulled the engine to an auto-conversion for my kitplane I need to finish some day.

Tcoat 04-06-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201323)
If I wanted over 400bhp I'd swap for an ls motor, but I think that might be overkill haha. And I know a supercharger would be the way to go, I just wouldn't know where to start. For now I'll just enjoy it as is

That is the best way, just wait it out and then decide what you want to do (if anything).
I bought the car with every intention of supercharging but after about 3 months and 10,000 miles decided it was fine just as it was (For a DD) and have no FI plans now.

Superchan 04-06-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2201334)
That is the best way, just wait it out and then decide what you want to do (if anything).
I bought the car with every intention of supercharging but after about 3 months and 10,000 miles decided it was fine just as it was (For a DD) and have no FI plans now.

This will be a DD for me as well. I average 7000 miles a year or so. Maybe a bit more now that my mileage won't burn a hole in my bank account haha

HotLavaFRS 04-06-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2201334)
That is the best way, just wait it out and then decide what you want to do (if anything).
I bought the car with every intention of supercharging but after about 3 months and 10,000 miles decided it was fine just as it was (For a DD) and have no FI plans now.

Same, I'm pretty much happy with the power in the FR-S, especially in just a fun lightweight DD. If I wanted pure speed I just go hop in the Mustang.

Cartman 04-06-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2201272)
Odds on OP being F.I. in the first 12 months?

Depends... not everyone who owned a POS mustang went FI... I sold mine with 16K miles on 2011... mainly cause it spent most of its life at the dealership getting fixed.

I still haven't after 1 year and half, and probably never will.

Superchan 04-06-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cartman (Post 2201378)
Depends... not everyone who owned a POS mustang went FI... I sold mine with 16K miles on 2011... mainly cause it spent most of its life at the dealership getting fixed.

I still haven't after 1 year and half, and probably never will.

I never had any problems with my mustang, it treated me right and I did the same. Never had to take it in.

HotLavaFRS 04-06-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201382)
I never had any problems with my mustang, it treated me right and I did the same. Never had to take it in.

Mine has never given me issues and it's a 2007, but the 2011 did have an issue from time to time with the MT-82 trans whine leading to failure. They also had issues with burning up cylinder 8 under certain conditions. Those issues were pretty much resolved for 2012 except for the MT-82 gear whine.

tennisfreak 04-06-2015 06:13 PM

Subd for the inevitable "this car needs more power" post :popcorn:

Superchan 04-06-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisfreak (Post 2201465)
Subd for the inevitable "this car needs more power" post :popcorn:

It's only 100 less than the mustang, and I've driven the frs already. Considering how much better it handles, it actually feels faster. I'm perfectly happy.

gramicci101 04-06-2015 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superchan (Post 2201178)
Just got a call from the dealer, frs will be in in about 2 hours!

That was three hours ago. Pics?

Superchan 04-06-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2201472)
That was three hours ago. Pics?

My dealership is lazy. Last I checked (20 minutes ago) they were finishing paper work at the other dealership they were picking it up from. Definitely have it by tonight. Hopefully in the next hour or two.

Trust me, I'm anxious as well.


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