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superleggera 03-25-2015 01:18 PM

Rear window shattered by itself
 
Hey everyone

So on Monday, my rear window basically imploded without warning. I had closed my passenger side door and my rear window shattered. There was no vandalism (it's a gated, secure parking lot) and I literally have no idea why it happened. I called up my Subaru dealership but they said they wouldn't touch it, I had to go through insurance. Clearly there had to be something wrong with the glass or the car itself. I am getting the glass replaced right now (luckily my insurance has a $0 glass deductible, not that I wanted to even use them). Hopefully it does not happen again.

Has this happened to anyone else? Just curious if there is a flaw with the car that caused it to happen.

https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...7a&oe=55B4169A

Bergen23 03-25-2015 01:23 PM

Holy, that's nuts.

I always lightly shut my doors, my dad got me started with that habit when he first got his Camry.

He always said "son, this is a toyota, it's made much better than the American garbage you're used to"

Burrcold 03-25-2015 01:31 PM

I would be very surprised if there wasn't something that hit the window to compromise the integrity (you may not have ever noticed it, or it happened recently). The door closing just gave it that little extra pressure to make it finally pop.


...or maybe it really is defective.

Tcoat 03-25-2015 01:32 PM

Have had it happen with other cars. To be so uniform it was likely due to twisting but that is just a guess at best. Have you modded anything in the suspension?

superleggera 03-25-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bergen23 (Post 2184512)
Holy, that's nuts.

I always lightly shut my doors, my dad got me started with that habit when he first got his Camry.

He always said "son, this is a toyota, it's made much better than the American garbage you're used to"


anyone who knows me, knows how much I hate slammed doors!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 2184529)
I would be very surprised if there wasn't something that hit the window to compromise the integrity (you may not have ever noticed it, or it happened recently). The door closing just gave it that little extra pressure to make it finally pop.


...or maybe it really is defective.

Something very well could have hit it. it was a very blustery day, and when I was at work, was parked under a highway overpass so something could have fell and hit it. I just didn't see any evidence of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2184534)
Have had it happen with other cars. To be so uniform it was likely due to twisting but that is just a guess at best. Have you modded anything in the suspension?

It's on factory suspension and 16" wheels with snow tires. Another scenario that has run through my head is that I hit a nasty pothole that cracked the glass, and when I closed it a couple times it finally gave out.

Tcoat 03-25-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superleggera (Post 2184560)
anyone who knows me, knows how much I hate slammed doors!




Something very well could have hit it. it was a very blustery day, and when I was at work, was parked under a highway overpass so something could have fell and hit it. I just didn't see any evidence of it.



It's on factory suspension and 16" wheels with snow tires. Another scenario that has run through my head is that I hit a nasty pothole that cracked the glass, and when I closed it a couple times it finally gave out.

That is exactly what happened with my one Lancer.

continuecrushing 03-25-2015 01:59 PM

Tempered glass can be funny like that...

If it had an impact sometime prior to this, it might not have broken (visibly anyway) but then the next small vibration/hit/etc would cause it to shatter since the tempered part was ready to give in.

Kaotic Lazagna 03-25-2015 02:09 PM

Did you have anything stuck on the inside of the window via a suction cup? I know someone who had a small flag on via a suction up, and some how that with the use of the rear defroster weakened that spot, and eventually made the glass implode.

ButeraFRS 03-25-2015 02:10 PM

Do you have subs? :o:o

Tcoat 03-25-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS (Post 2184638)
Do you have subs? :o:o

And if so what kind? I want them too!!

ButeraFRS 03-25-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2184641)
And if so what kind? I want them too!!

Ahahahahaa.

Kaotic Lazagna 03-25-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2184641)
And if so what kind? I want them too!!

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

superleggera 03-25-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS (Post 2184638)
Do you have subs? :o:o


I dropped the bass so hard. Nope no subs lol

Tcoat 03-25-2015 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS (Post 2184644)
Ahahahahaa.

My glass is insured and I have a new CD to pick up soon!

http://i.gyazo.com/9c7d747a53482eef27878abb8f597417.png

ButeraFRS 03-25-2015 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2184662)
My glass is insured and I have a new CD to pick up soon!

http://i.gyazo.com/9c7d747a53482eef27878abb8f597417.png

Pffff. Bumping that in your car will fix your window if anything.

If you want to shatter it. You skip to 1:05

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrg1xLyBPIs"]Composure - August Burns Red (with Added Bass Drops) - YouTube[/ame]

superleggera 03-25-2015 05:20 PM

So I had it repaired. Total cost was $500 + tax (well $0 to me thanks to insurance). The glass place said they had more than usual lately so maybe it's weather related.

Turbo95eg6 03-25-2015 05:24 PM

I'll be honest, looks pretty bad ass like you were in a car chase.

Koa 03-25-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 2185033)
I'll be honest, looks pretty bad ass like you were in a car chase.

please be honest with us. we hate it when you're lying

Turbo95eg6 03-25-2015 05:55 PM

Who doesn't love a car chase?

http://i59.tinypic.com/m9akna.jpg

superleggera 03-25-2015 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 2185033)
I'll be honest, looks pretty bad ass like you were in a car chase.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2185069)
please be honest with us. we hate it when you're lying

Sorry to lie to everyone, yes me and my buddies were playing a little too much gtav and decided to pull a heist IRL... only damage was some broken rear glass so I'd say successful :cheers:

Tcoat 03-25-2015 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superleggera (Post 2185099)
Sorry to lie to everyone, yes me and my buddies were playing a little too much gtav and decided to pull a heist IRL... only damage was some broken rear glass so I'd say successful :cheers:

Should have thrown some of these on and drove around for a couple of days before getting the window fixed! See how long you last before getting pulled over at gun point.


http://www.birthdaydirect.com/images...s-stickers.jpg

brandonblt2 03-25-2015 07:31 PM

It could have been the pressure of shutting the door so quickly. I believe the whole point of the windows retracting and going up is to prevent that quick build up of pressure in the car.

stugray 03-25-2015 07:47 PM

a localized gravitational abberation led to Non-linear catastrophic structural exasperation of the amorphous structure.

a.k.a. "It Blowed up"

I once kicked a tempered glass tabletop and it didnt break (right away).
But it started emitting a very high pitched squeal for about 10 seconds then exploded. Cool but messy & expensive...

superleggera 03-25-2015 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 2185217)
It could have been the pressure of shutting the door so quickly. I believe the whole point of the windows retracting and going up is to prevent that quick build up of pressure in the car.

Could be possible, but I'm not one to slam the door (but who knows). Windows are working fine at the time of the incident

Tcoat 03-25-2015 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 2185217)
It could have been the pressure of shutting the door so quickly. I believe the whole point of the windows retracting and going up is to prevent that quick build up of pressure in the car.

Nah the pressure of closing the door is virtually nil. The windows go down so you are not slamming them against the stripping. If there was enough pressure to be a concern we would all have popped eardrums from cars that didn't open the windows.

superleggera 03-25-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2185251)
Nah the pressure of closing the door is virtually nil. The windows go down so you are not slamming them against the stripping. If there was enough pressure to be a concern we would all have popped eardrums from cars that didn't open the windows.

Are there pressure vents in this car? if so, could they possibly be blocked?

Tcoat 03-25-2015 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superleggera (Post 2185256)
Are there pressure vents in this car? if so, could they possibly be blocked?

No. The volume of air being moved is not enough to create a pressure wave large enough to be an issue.

brianhj 03-25-2015 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bergen23 (Post 2184512)
Holy, that's nuts.

I always lightly shut my doors, my dad got me started with that habit when he first got his Camry.

He always said "son, this is a toyota, it's made much better than the American garbage you're used to"

I don't get these two statements, are they related? Why did he get you started being gentle with the doors on a camry... if they're made better?

dnieves 03-25-2015 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 2185242)
a localized gravitational abberation led to Non-linear catastrophic structural exasperation of the amorphous structure.

a.k.a. "It Blowed up"

I once kicked a tempered glass tabletop and it didnt break (right away).
But it started emitting a very high pitched squeal for about 10 seconds then exploded. Cool but messy & expensive...



Hit tempered glass from the side/edges (where it's weakest) and it shatter!


Read this: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_glass_breakage"]Spontaneous glass breakage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Bergen23 03-25-2015 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianhj (Post 2185410)
I don't get these two statements, are they related? Why did he get you started being gentle with the doors on a camry... if they're made better?

As in you don't need to slam the door in order for cabin to seal.

brianhj 03-25-2015 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bergen23 (Post 2185444)
As in you don't need to slam the door in order for cabin to seal.

Ah, I was misinterpreting it

Koa 03-26-2015 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superleggera (Post 2185099)
Sorry to lie to everyone, yes me and my buddies were playing a little too much gtav and decided to pull a heist IRL... only damage was some broken rear glass so I'd say successful :cheers:

I meant the person who said "im gunna be honest"

lol

Tcoat 03-27-2015 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2186162)
I meant the person who said "im gunna be honest"

lol

"Well to tell you the truth, I am sincerely gonna be honest, up front, open and not hide a thing from you on this, really I swear."

A (to the best of my memory) direct quote from the Sales manager at Mitsu when I was in the middle of a dispute with them.

Koa 03-27-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2187660)
"Well to tell you the truth, I am sincerely gonna be honest, up front, open and not hide a thing from you on this, really I swear."

A (to the best of my memory) direct quote from the Sales manager at Mitsu when I was in the middle of a dispute with them.

hahahahah it's such a subconscious thing so many do.. I love giving people crap about it :cheers:

I get what they're saying- really they're saying "I'm not gunna hold back and tell it to you how it is"

RobertPaulson 03-27-2015 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 2185242)
a localized gravitational abberation led to Non-linear catastrophic structural exasperation of the amorphous structure.

a.k.a. "It Blowed up"

I once kicked a tempered glass tabletop and it didnt break (right away).
But it started emitting a very high pitched squeal for about 10 seconds then exploded. Cool but messy & expensive...

something like this

https://youtu.be/suCJTKeJSCQ

Tbird232ci 03-27-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2184662)
My glass is insured and I have a new CD to pick up soon!

http://i.gyazo.com/9c7d747a53482eef27878abb8f597417.png



Quote:

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS (Post 2184995)
Pffff. Bumping that in your car will fix your window if anything.

If you want to shatter it. You skip to 1:05

Composure - August Burns Red (with Added Bass Drops) - YouTube

You guys just won my heart.

superleggera 03-29-2015 05:06 PM

so i spent the past 3 hours vacuuming glass from every crevice of this car. had a bunch of glass inside the sheetmetal under the rear deck that was impossible to access.

Anyways, I noticed that there are vents in the rear trunk area that lead to the bumper. they were as clean as a whistle, so I think those being clogged up rules that out as a possible cause for the broken window (assuming the pressure of the doors could shatter a rear window).


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