Do you think FT-86 will have automatic?
 

I know FT-86 get 6speed but what about automatic?
It'll be nice what do u guys thinks?

I pray they won't. Just like S2k, but I'm pretty sure my prayer won't be heard

Hope not

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...in/cockpit.jpg

if you look closely the gauge cluster has a N im sure thats for the tiptronic transmission or hope for a dual clutch same as the LF-A

I hope not.
At least that will ensure it remains a sportscar, and out of the hands of hairdressers who are too stupid to work out what the third pedal does.
I doubt it though... There would have to be an auto of they'd be cutting out the not insubstantial poser market.

Uh... why would Toyota not offer an automatic? It would make more sense to just include a well geared AT option for those who want it.

Aisin, for example, has a nice 6 AT.

They could theoretically even revive (and improve on) the design of the MRS's 5 SMT without it costing too much.

For those who are opposed to the idea, what does it matter if they offer some form of AT as an option? I could see people saying "I hope not" if it was going to be the only trans offered...

Saying "I hope not" is bascially just a (somewhat snobbish) desire to make the number of people who might actually buy the car fewer -- that's not a smart strategy for Toyota.

Just get the base version -- done.

Exactly what I'm talking about :laughabove:

The "you're not allowed to drive this car" attitude will hamstring their sales. Just buy the version you want with the options you want. This isn't an exclusive club -- it's a car :bellyroll:

A 6 speed AT with tiptronic or (gasp) an improved version of the MRS' 5 speed SMT would be a smart option to offer -- period.

Offering the option will attract more buyers than it will lose.

Alot of people will be happy if this car came with automatic. I know they will buy it.

It has to have an automatic option, as low sales to the public at large without this option will sink the car almost immediately.

Even Porsche Turbos come with automatics these days. Like it or not, it's all about the Benjamins.

There is not even a snowball's chance in hell that the production car's interior will look even vaguely similar to that of the prototype. Everyone needs to stop thinking otherwise.

This might sound cruel, but those people could always learn how to drive a standard. Its not very hard.

I have no sympathy either when it comes to "but shifting while talking on the cell phone" or "shifting while trying to eat something is annoying" Shouldn't be talking on the phone, shouldn't be eating.
No sympathy because I've done both of those, while shifting, in a car that doesn't have a single cupholder. =P
People wanna drive a sportscar, they should learn how to drive a standard.

/shrug, but yeah, it'll come with automatic. The only thing that sucks about that is in the future, trying to source parts from wrecked FT's. "Aww, this one was an auto." Or trying to find a second fun car. "Damn, all of them are auto's right now." blah blah blah.

Let susy chewing gum blonde hair have her auto though.

It's a necessary evil. If Susy can't (and doesn't) get her automatic, we're not going to be able to get our stick shift. I don't think auto versions take away from the enthusiast market, since they are the whole reason for offering a stick in the first place.

We'll just ostracize those who do buy the slushbox at local meets, instead. ;)

Auto's ruin the experience at least for me. The S never came as an automatic and it sold really well for the first few years. If they're really wanting to revive the sports car then revive the true sports car. Autos are for bitches. Sorry. :thumbdown:

Absolutely will have automatic. Like some of the other guys said without sales of automatic FT-86s we won't have any FT-86 to drive because it'll tank. The unknown factor is what kind of MT or DSG transmission the car will come with (standard or optional).

While I love the fact that my S2000 only came with MT, making it that much of an enthusiast only car, I'm pretty sure that Honda could have sold a lot more if it was also offered with AT.

Honda had a nice 10 year run with the S and only a MT. I don't think it'd be too much for this to only have a MT. I guess if it does have an AT, then it's not a purist car. :iono:

How about two trim levels, like Corolla SR5/GTS and Celica GT/GTS. The base model can be opted with auto while the top model comes with manual trans only. However, I wouldn't mind to have an optional DSG type trans on the top model though.

The volume of the S2000 is relatively low (about 5k per year). It was never meant to have a 10 year run. The FT-86 is supposed to be a cheap, high volume car. Not having auto as an option will drive the price of this car up.

Porsche 911, various Ferrari, etc. all offer auto... Beside, the auto trans in someone else's car doesn't affects how I drive my manual equipped one. So I won't lose sleep over having auto as an option.

LOL my wife would be so offended if she read that comment. Every car she has ever owned has been manual. Her last car was a 6 speed, current car is a 6 speed and she absolutely will not even consider an auto for her next one.

I could care less if the FT comes auto. I wont be buying one. The more choices Toyota offers, the more they will sell.

I'm thinking it will end up as an auto option on the lower trim levels, and the high performance/ top end model will be 6 speed only, as previously stated in the thread. :iono:

actually yeah im sure its not going to look like that but concepts are their to show what the production car will have its like a hint to the for the future owner this whole forum is based on speculation only i dobut that this chassis will be called FT86 also, even the original toyota corolla AE86 SR5 model had a AT option so why would this be diffrent.

Auto = more women drivers = more fail

Lol. :clap:

What are you guys who hate even the idea of an automatic option gonna do in less than 10 years when every real sports car has a dual clutch gearbox with paddle shifters and an option to just let the ECU handle the gear shifts? Ride horses?

Seriously, this attitude is just going to alienate people and it's kind of silly.

But then again, I actually know people who said if they could afford a GT-R, they'd swap out the stock trans for a fucking old school dogbox... that's like taking off the fuel injection and replacing it with a carburetor :bonk:

I dunno I like knowing that alot of my friends/family cant drive my car :bellyroll:

amen :clap: seriously if you dont want a AT don't buy a AT, personally if toyota offered a Six-speed sequential gearbox like the LF-A have, ill take that on a heart beat if its like the IS250 no sorry ill stick with the manual. then again if toyota will have its own synchro shift gear box just like what the nissan 370Z ill go for that also.

^^^^ Word. Pretty much how I feel and would choose also. Just one small correction, the LFA's trans is a single clutch design.

I don't see why it would not have an automatic but just won't have a fancy one.

I guess we will just be shit out of luck huh?

thats right, but still toyota better have 2 option for FT-86.

FIXED lol but yeah if ever they will have a Six-speed sequential gearbox or a dual clutch gear box ill take it

I know the purists and hardcore enthusiasts love their manuals but there are some of us who can drive manual yet need an automatic for practical reasons, like those of us with long commutes and plan to use this car as a DD.

And again, just because they offer an auto, it doesn't have to be disaster for the "softcore" (?) enthusiast.

Aisin has a nice 6 speet AT. Offer that with the ability to shift via buttons or an autostick (tiptronic was offered with the 7th gen Celicas, but only 4 fucking gears!!!) and that will attract a lot of potential customers.

Or... ressurect the last gen MRS's 5-SMT, which they've had 10 years to improve upon.

This will be my daily driver and project car, and I intend to have a shitload of fun with it on the road -- but, I don't plan on regularly tracking it or trying to go sideways in it -- guess that makes me a mere softcore enthusiast... :sigh:

The hardcore "you're not allowed to drive MY car" attitude isn't going to help Toyota sell enough cars or win anyone too many friends...

And who knows, one of those so-called softcore enthusiasts might turn out to be the guy you need help from if you start tuning your car... where have I seen this before...?

Absolutely no doubt in my mind they'll release an automatic box for this car, if it goes to production. I don't have any figures to back this up, but here in Australia at least I'd say a minimum of half of all new cars these days are automatic, if not drastically more. Driving in traffic sucks and anyone who doesn't enjoy spirited driving will want an auto for their commute.

They're going to make this car appeal to as many as they can, since they're building it to confine to a small budget. True, for once they might be building something with a sporty nature, but it doesn't mean they want to rule out a good portion of the population just by not offering an auto model.

Oldies love sporty looking cars, but don't care so much about the powertrain like enthusiasts. These are the ones with the cash who buy the most new cars, and guess what? They like cars that are easy to drive in traffic too (read: automatic transmissions).

I don't think this car will be getting a DSC. Sure it's becoming more commonplace, but they're building this vehicle on a budget. That's tech a few years back where they can (eg, transmissions but not emissions).

I'm not planning on that either. I just happen to think that an automatic in a sports car ruins the idea. If there was an automatic S, it would completely bog down the experience while driving. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it and this car isn't a pure sports car. I dunno. However, I still think that an auto strips away the experience. :iono:

On the other hand, it will give people who don't want to work a clutch in stop and go traffic a reason to have the -- shall we say the "approximate" experience.

Again, no one said it should only come with an auto. That would turn off people just as much as it not having an auto option (well, technically, about 90% of americans drive auto trans cars, so actually, they'd still sell more cars that way...)

Anyway, if they use the Aisin 6 speed AT, they even keep the same gear ratios. The only difference may be the potential speed at which it shifts.

Seriously -- there is no reason for Toyota to take the "exclusive club" path for this car. It's already being designed to spin out of control! At least give more people the chance to have fun doing that :bellyroll:

How will another car with a AT ruins the idea or what they call the sports car experience? a car is individual, it reflects the owner personality not the owners if one owner wants his car to be in show with lights and big ass speakers and 20 LCD screens thats on him, I'm not going to let a burned rice kill my buzz. childish rant like that are the one who labels real enthusiast away from any car not automatic transmission.

i agree with jordo. i daily drive an 05 s2k, i need my cars to have a clutch pedal, but it is snobby and honestly lame for me to wish the ft wouldn't have an automatic option for those that want it. i don't care if posers buy this car. i want this car to sell in large numbers to insure that it will stay on the market, unlike my s2k that got canned this year. even if posers buy this car, the fact of the matter is i'm not one of them, and i'm not gonna let posers ruin my enjoyment of this car. if you care so much about this being a purist car that you don't even want there to be an automatic option, you're basically telling me you care too much about how others perceive you when you drive the car. i could really give a crap less how others see me in this car, it's all about whether i enjoy how it drives or not. how would an option that you're not even going to buy somehow dilute your car? lame.

You ever tried to drift in an automatic? Take the fun factor of sliding a car with standard and slash it in half.

Its not even a comparison.

Very true but irrelevant. The reality is that most buyers will never drift the car. Also, I still don't see how the auto trans in someone else's car affects how one drift his/her car with an manual trans.

;) I don't think having automatic sport car is bad idea. My friends
own 350z, Supra and they like it.

Who said drift? I said spin out of control :laughabove:

personally, i would never touch an auto ever again but if it means my gf can also roll up in a sexy red FT-86, why not.... my manual one to be bought will smoke it