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KingGT86 03-17-2015 05:55 PM

Eibach Sportline springs installed!!!
 
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Got them out on yesterday and couldn't be anymore happier with the results.. IMO this is how the car should come stock!!!

xuimod 03-17-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KingGT86 (Post 2172926)
Got them out on yesterday and couldn't be anymore happier with the results.. IMO this is how the car should come stock!!!

What kind of headlights are those?

Btw, I have the same springs, they are good. Did you use spring compressors to install it or did u let the car's weight decompress/compress the springs?

KingGT86 03-17-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xuimod (Post 2173148)
What kind of headlights are those?

Btw, I have the same springs, they are good. Did you use spring compressors to install it or did u let the car's weight decompress/compress the springs?


These came with the car, I got the monogram series. And spring compressors, didn't want to take a chance lol.

smg1138 03-17-2015 09:49 PM

Did you install those on the stock struts?

Koa 03-17-2015 10:02 PM

with stock struts it is a bit bouncy on average roads and downright harsh on bad conditioned roads (socal, seattle, etc)..

but the drop is damn sexy, should have been stock from the factory w/ either 1" or 1.2" drop.. Will be putting up a review of the b8 bilsteins and them as well, installed them a little over 1k ago, want to get some seat time with them to give a well-founded review

xuimod 03-17-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KingGT86 (Post 2173193)
These came with the car, I got the monogram series. And spring compressors, didn't want to take a chance lol.

Oh, didn't know about the monogram series.

I didn't use Spring compressors for my install, the install was actually super easy not having to use spring compressors.

FRSfan111 03-17-2015 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2173320)
with stock struts it is a bit bouncy on average roads and downright harsh on bad conditioned roads (socal, seattle, etc)..

but the drop is damn sexy, should have been stock from the factory w/ either 1" or 1.2" drop.. Will be putting up a review of the b8 bilsteins and them as well, installed them a little over 1k ago, want to get some seat time with them to give a well-founded review

Been planning on buying b8s to match my sport lines. Lmk how they are!

KingGT86 03-17-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138 (Post 2173297)
Did you install those on the stock struts?

Yeah man stock struts and shocks

KingGT86 03-17-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2173320)
with stock struts it is a bit bouncy on average roads and downright harsh on bad conditioned roads (socal, seattle, etc)..

but the drop is damn sexy, should have been stock from the factory w/ either 1" or 1.2" drop.. Will be putting up a review of the b8 bilsteins and them as well, installed them a little over 1k ago, want to get some seat time with them to give a well-founded review

Actually not I bad tho, I live in an area where the roads are pretty shitty lol especially after this winter.. But you definitely feel more bumps then stock that's for sure but it's not bad at all, I haven't really noticed much difference in handling tho.

Koa 03-17-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KingGT86 (Post 2173401)
Actually not I bad tho, I live in an area where the roads are pretty shitty lol especially after this winter.. But you definitely feel more bumps then stock that's for sure but it's not bad at all, I haven't really noticed much difference in handling tho.

give it awhile you'll start to notice, especially if the springs are new.. have to let them settle in

been on sportlines for 7k now, 1k of that with bilstein's and I'll never go back, wholly recommend down the line.. For now enjoy them with the stockers! :cheers:

Felix7007 03-18-2015 11:12 AM

I have them installed also.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...922_185311.jpg
(My Winter Tires On raising the car for more ground clearance.)


Feel great during autocross and at the track. I noticed the car has a higher threshold for lateral movement but will step out quicker if over the limit which is due to less spring to help soak. Ride is bumpier but racecar.

smg1138 03-18-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KingGT86 (Post 2173399)
Yeah man stock struts and shocks

You're a lot braver than I am. That much of a drop on the stock struts is going to stress them pretty hard. You might want to budget for replacements in the not too distant future just in case.

Koa 03-18-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138 (Post 2174008)
You're a lot braver than I am. That much of a drop on the stock struts is going to stress them pretty hard. You might want to budget for replacements in the not too distant future just in case.

stock struts are a dime a dozen.. I have two full sets in my garage in case anyone wants to buy extra stockers.. $50 each + shipping.. 5k or less on both sets :)

/shameless plug

Ashphalt_Angel 03-18-2015 12:54 PM

Looks good. These are the same as the TRD springs correct?

Cope52 03-18-2015 01:09 PM

Not to rain on your parade but they will blow out. They will blow out aftermarket shocks too. Eibachs are too soft. It's a shame the aftermarket shock makers have to hand out free replacements when they have no control over what springs people pair them with.

smg1138 03-18-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2174010)
stock struts are a dime a dozen.. I have two full sets in my garage in case anyone wants to buy extra stockers.. $50 each + shipping.. 5k or less on both sets :)

/shameless plug

I was actually talking about aftermarket shocks that could handle the springs long term. Maybe Bilstein B8's would work, but I'm not sure.

Koa 03-18-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138 (Post 2174054)
I was actually talking about aftermarket shocks that could handle the springs long term. Maybe Bilstein B8's would work, but I'm not sure.

I'm on Bilstein B8's with sportlines for a little over 1k miles, more like north of 1.5k now. Absolutely love the combo for canyon and DD.

Can't speak for track yet as I haven't taken the setup to one yet.. waiting to do so before I give my review as I don't see many reviewing this particular setup, and I want to clear up some things about ride quality as a DD, performance, and whatnot


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Originally Posted by Cope52 (Post 2174034)
Not to rain on your parade but they will blow out. They will blow out aftermarket shocks too. Eibachs are too soft. It's a shame the aftermarket shock makers have to hand out free replacements when they have no control over what springs people pair them with.

You got some hard pact data for this? Sportlines feature progressive spring rates. I haven't seen many blown stockers coming around here running sportlines, except for those who twist the seal while improperly disassembling or assembling struts during the install process...

Spring Rate Front:120 - 211 lbs/in | Spring Rate Rear:86 - 296 lbs/in

I'm having a hard time finding specs on the Bilstein B8s and Koni's.. anyone wanna chime in?

Koa 01-03-2017 06:15 AM

still haven't blown my shocks out, 35k miles and counting. ;)

@Cope52

86geek 01-03-2017 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2824434)
still haven't blown my shocks out, 35k miles and counting. ;)

@Cope52

Long time no see Koa! :thumbup:

AREN 01-04-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashphalt_Angel (Post 2174017)
Looks good. These are the same as the TRD springs correct?

No, the Pro-kit is the same as the TRD.

Koa 01-06-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 2824516)
Long time no see Koa! :thumbup:

aye!! I'm a ghost nowadays lol

8RZ 01-06-2017 12:16 PM

Seems to be a lot of variables that could cause stock shocks to blow out with aftermarket springs (drop height, quality of shocks, road conditions, driving habits, etc). I've owned cars that held up fine after years and others that have had shocks blow out after a week of driving.

That drop looks nice though. I will now usually either buy full COs or get a nice spring/shock combo.

Tcoat 01-06-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 2826439)
Seems to be a lot of variables that could cause stock shocks to blow out with aftermarket springs (drop height, quality of shocks, road conditions, driving habits, etc). I've owned cars that held up fine after years and others that have had shocks blow out after a week of driving.

That drop looks nice though. I will now usually either buy full COs or get a nice spring/shock combo.

RSR Super Downs with about as much drop as you will get on lowering springs. 100K and all four stock shocks still functioning as good as new. I have blown out coilovers in a third of that on previous cars. Unless I decide I want to be able to adjust for some reason I will never do COs again.

Tcoat 01-06-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2826430)
aye!! I'm a ghost nowadays lol

Yes and the clutter it an atrocity!

86Boyz 01-06-2017 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2826452)
RSR Super Downs with about as much drop as you will get on lowering springs. 100K and all four stock shocks still functioning as good as new. I have blown out coilovers in a third of that on previous cars. Unless I decide I want to be able to adjust for some reason I will never do COs again.

any modifications required to install those springs or do you just replace the OEM ones with them? Is the fitment with the OEM wheels okay?

Tcoat 01-06-2017 01:00 PM

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any modifications required to install those springs or do you just replace the OEM ones with them? Is the fitment with the OEM wheels okay?

Have to trim the bump stops but everything fits great. I didn't install them the dealer put them on the car for the showroom but they said they were a piece of cake. I REALLY like them.

On paper:
Front -25mm to -30mm (-1.0inch to -1.2inch)
Rear -30mm to -35mm (-1.2inch to -1.4inch


In reality:
Front 1.6
Rear 1.8
(as measured against a stock set up)

Phantobe 01-06-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2826483)
Have to trim the bump stops but everything fits great. I didn't install them the dealer put them on the car for the showroom but they said they were a piece of cake. I REALLY like them.

On paper:
Front -25mm to -30mm (-1.0inch to -1.2inch)
Rear -30mm to -35mm (-1.2inch to -1.4inch


In reality:
Front 1.6
Rear 1.8
(as measured against a stock set up)

Lol holy crap that is a very large margin of error, hard to believe that the RSR eng specs would be that off.

Tcoat 01-06-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantobe (Post 2826521)
Lol holy crap that is a very large margin of error, hard to believe that the RSR eng specs would be that off.

Ya I was surprised. When first looking at the car I measured the height at the dealers before I knew what the paper specs were supposed to be. When I looked it up and saw them I measured again with the same result. That was why I talked to the tech that installed them because it seemed so far off. He assured me everything was done properly and since I have had no issues I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Pat 01-06-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2826452)
100K and all four stock shocks still functioning as good as new.

I really doubt they're functioning as good as new. I don't care what shocks you have or what springs they're paired with. Shocks' performance degrades with usage. Just because you don't notice the degradation doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

Tcoat 01-06-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 2826801)
I really doubt they're functioning as good as new. I don't care what shocks you have or what springs they're paired with. Shocks' performance degrades with usage. Just because you don't notice the degradation doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

True. Figure of speech more than an accurate appraisal. They are not leaking, they have not blown and there is no discernible difference in the ride of the car. Just because they eventually degrade does not mean they are not still functioning fine even if not like new. I have retired a couple of cars with 400K on the original shocks without a single issue or any noticeable change in function.

switchlanez 01-11-2017 07:48 PM

@Tcoat is that picture of your car on RSR springs? In another thread you posted pics of your car on TRD springs using the same pictures: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...55&postcount=6

Teseo 01-11-2017 09:40 PM

If i remember he said the dealer he bough the car the sales man told its have trd springs, so he got used to say that until he showed pictures of the springs and confirmed was rsr not trd. Maybe?

Phantobe 01-24-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2826850)
True. Figure of speech more than an accurate appraisal. They are not leaking, they have not blown and there is no discernible difference in the ride of the car. Just because they eventually degrade does not mean they are not still functioning fine even if not like new. I have retired a couple of cars with 400K on the original shocks without a single issue or any noticeable change in function.

TCoat what do you plan on doing once they go out? I'm thinking either B8s or Konis...leaning more towards B8s though.

Tcoat 01-24-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantobe (Post 2838172)
TCoat what do you plan on doing once they go out? I'm thinking either B8s or Konis...leaning more towards B8s though.

I really don't know to be honest. Up until just two weeks ago I planned to trade it in at the 5 year mark like I have done with my last 4 cars. Figured I would get 5 years out of them easily since most of my miles are highway and not really straining them. I have now decided that I am going to hang onto this car until it just isn't worth fixing (my wife was pleased as she starting thinking of the saved $$$$$$ from no payments) so will probably need to think about replacements after all. I would probably go with Sachs for a reason I really can't say here (lets just say I get a discount and leave it at that). Will have to do some more research to see if the discount is worth it though.

JD001 01-24-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2838177)
I really don't know to be honest. Up until just two weeks ago I planned to trade it in at the 5 year mark like I have done with my last 4 cars. Figured I would get 5 years out of them easily since most of my miles are highway and not really straining them. I have now decided that I am going to hang onto this car until it just isn't worth fixing (my wife was pleased as she starting thinking of the saved $$$$$$ from no payments) so will probably need to think about replacements after all. I would probably go with Sachs for a reason I really can't say here (lets just say I get a discount and leave it at that). Will have to do some more research to see if the discount is worth it though.

Just come clean Tcoat, you're only keeping your car so that you can still roam this forum... no Twin no forum.

Tcoat 01-24-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2838179)
Just come clean Tcoat, you're only keeping your car so that you can still roam this forum... no Twin no forum.

Meh they make new ones. I am keeping it because I like it! It doesn't have a droppy nose.


Besides being Scion it will be a valuable collector's item in 10 years.




























(bait)

gramicci101 01-24-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2838183)
Besides being Scion it will be a valuable collector's item in 10 years.

People are already looking at swapping Scion badges onto their 86, so...

JD001 01-24-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2838186)
People are already looking at swapping Scion badges onto their 86, so...

Are you sure they are real people not "special" people?

Koa 05-06-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2826454)
Yes and the clutter it an atrocity!

miss yall

Hyper4mance2k 05-06-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 2826439)
Seems to be a lot of variables that could cause stock shocks to blow out with aftermarket springs (drop height, quality of shocks, road conditions, driving habits, etc). I've owned cars that held up fine after years and others that have had shocks blow out after a week of driving.

This.

I always thought Seattle had shitty roads until I moved to LA. edit: I always thought LA had shitty roads until I moved to DC. I can't imagine Sportlines lasting on stock struts more than a few months out here. I frequently feel the bumpstops with my Bilstein & Swift Spec R setup.


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