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MemphisR 06-12-2012 12:20 AM

Can BRZ headlights and hvac be installed on FR-S?
 
I am looking to be purchasing an FR-S so I can take my AW-11 off the road but I was wondering a few things before I make up my mind to go with the FR-S. I am wondering if the hvac controls and headlights can be changed over from the BRZ to the FR-S. I ask this only because I like the look and price on the FR-S but I love the headlights and hvac controls on the BRZ. If any one knows and could tell me that would be much appreciated. Thanks

Mr.Jay 06-12-2012 01:08 AM

Be cheaper to buy a BRZ and turn it into a FRS

:search:

MemphisR 06-12-2012 03:40 AM

How about just the lights from a GT86 or BRZ?

kmbkk 06-12-2012 09:23 AM

Again, cheaper to just buy a BRZ. You'll pay more for the headlights than the price difference between the 2 cars.

MemphisR 06-12-2012 11:40 AM

True. Thanks for your comments guys. I guess I'm just used to how simple and easy it is to modify my MR2

tripjammer 06-13-2012 02:06 PM

I just realized it is cheaper to buy a BRZ and turn it into a toyota 86....dammit!

Ess Vee 06-13-2012 02:13 PM

The brz headlights ARE the same dimensions as the FR-S, so you are able to just swap with no hassle.

Here's my reference for the headlights.

Also, if you want the HVAC and ac-control unit from the BRZ as well, one thing to note is that the BRZ limited trim (priced at $27,495) is the one that has this ac-control unit:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7...24dbc2cef0.jpg

The premium version (base model priced at $25,495) has the SAME ac-control unit as the FR-S ($24,930), not the one depicted above.

That being said, we just have to wait and see if just swapping out the parts will cost less than $2,565 (the cost difference of an FR-S and limited trim BRZ), which I'm sure it'll be less. I called up my Subaru dealer just minutes ago and they don't have a parts catalog yet.

I'm looking to do the exact same thing you are, lol.

F-Bomb 06-13-2012 02:51 PM

I've been interested in if that'll swap out too. But that's all I'd wanna do is just the hvac and I'm pretty sure it's not gonna be $2000 for the unit and possibly harness lol. And as for the headlights, there's no doubt gonna be aftermarket lights that will look way better than the us-spec lights :D

SubaruOnlineParts.com 06-13-2012 03:02 PM

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We are looking for a local (Long Island ,NY) member to work out the details in exchange for us providing all parts required at dealer cost. Right now on our site we are offering the headlamps for sale excluding the ballast/bulbs. A few things we would like to clear up are:
  • Will the lamp physically fit with no modifications and look and perform correctly
  • Will the FR-S plug fit the BRZ headlamp jumper harness
  • If an aftermarket HID kit is used is the BRZ jumper harness required?
  • How will the turn signals be effected, Are the FR-s indicators in the headlamp like the BRZ if not will FR-S owners be happy leaving these inop?


Below is the parts diagram for the BRZ , Lets open up this discussion to hammer out the details.

Ess Vee 06-13-2012 04:51 PM

Just found this :)

Right Headlamp

Left Headlamp

So, you're looking at about $1,000 to get HID's. I wonder how much you could sell the stock FR-S headlamps for...

Also, for kicks... I think I'll be getting this too :)

r4m3n 06-13-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ess Vee (Post 256593)
Just found this :)

Right Headlamp

Left Headlamp

So, you're looking at about $1,000 to get HID's. I wonder how much you could sell the stock FR-S headlamps for...

Also, for kicks... I think I'll be getting this too :)

You might want to look at the post right above yours... also, those are just the headlight housing. Still a good deal though :)

Ess Vee 06-13-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by r4m3n (Post 256624)
You might want to look at the post right above yours... also, those are just the headlight housing. Still a good deal though :)

OMG :bonk::bonk::bonk: LOL, derrr... Thanks :bellyroll:

Dadhawk 06-13-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruOnlineParts.com (Post 256395)
We are looking for a local (Long Island ,NY) member to work out the details in exchange for us providing all parts required at dealer cost. Right now on our site we are offering the headlamps for sale excluding the ballast/bulbs. A few things we would like to clear up are:
  • Will the lamp physically fit with no modifications and look and perform correctly
  • Will the FR-S plug fit the BRZ headlamp jumper harness
  • If an aftermarket HID kit is used is the BRZ jumper harness required?
  • How will the turn signals be effected, Are the FR-s indicators in the headlamp like the BRZ if not will FR-S owners be happy leaving these inop?

Below is the parts diagram for the BRZ , Lets open up this discussion to hammer out the details.

First, glad to see you guys joined up! We were communicating via email today.

Look forward to seeing you put this together for folks that want it. Wish I was local!

SubaruOnlineParts.com 06-13-2012 06:13 PM

Hello and Thanks ,

We are glad to be here as well , We like putting together mods most vendors shy away from but of course there is alot of information we need to gather and share in order for this to work.

One other thought we had was as to what the opening on the back of the BRZ lamp looks like and if an aftermarket HID kit will be adaptable.

From the previous illustration above there seems to be a High/Low actuator that either moves the bulb or the reflector when switching from high to low beam.

This may make it alot more difficult to go the aftermarket HID route.

We are awaiting arrival of a headlamp so we can research this and will keep everyone posted.


If there is anything else you are looking for BRZ related feel free to PM us

Thanks for the support!

Bristecom 06-13-2012 06:14 PM

Do you have the price of the Subaru BRZ Limited leather/Alcantara seats?

Hanakuso 06-13-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 256748)
Do you have the price of the Subaru BRZ Limited leather/Alcantara seats?

I'm scared to know the price. Typically OEM seats cost a ton

just86 06-13-2012 07:17 PM

just wait another year for scion release series frs, im going to wait...

Bristecom 06-13-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 256852)
I'm scared to know the price. Typically OEM seats cost a ton

I know. Not to mention the fact that they will have airbags in them. I may never be able to justify buying them. :cry:

Hanakuso 06-13-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 256869)
I know. Not to mention the fact that they will have airbags in them. I may never be able to justify buying them. :cry:

I'm sure a lot of people will end up selling them used. Much cheaper this way

Bristecom 06-13-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 256917)
I'm sure a lot of people will end up selling them used. Much cheaper this way

Yeah, that's what I would hope for. The problem is, the type of people who would replace them with bucket seats would never buy a Limited as it is a waste of money and adds weight. So it's probably pretty unlikely.

SpecPer 06-13-2012 10:35 PM

I will confirm that the BRZ headlight assy will work in the FRS. The plug harness will be different but can be rewired to work. I Just installed JDM Toyota 86 headlights on my FRS and the plug is identical to the BRZ. All I had to do is re-use (transfer) the plug from my FRS to the new light assembly and it plugged right in.

SmartedPanda 06-13-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 253739)
Be cheaper to buy a BRZ and turn it into a FRS

:search:

I really want to put an FRS bumper on a BRZ, is it possible?

Dadhawk 06-14-2012 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmartedPanda (Post 257281)
I really want to put an FRS bumper on a BRZ, is it possible?

It's already been done I believe. There is a thread here somewhere with a photo of a BRZ with a FRS front end as part of a mod. Just don't have time to search.

In general though, its the same bones underneath, the bumper (really just the bumper cover) is cosmetic.

SubaruOnlineParts.com 06-14-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 256748)
Do you have the price of the Subaru BRZ Limited leather/Alcantara seats?

Each part of the seat is sold separately, They show a Base and High level so im safe to assume the High is the premium.

Just for the drivers seat back cover is about 500.00 bucks , so close to 2k and this is just the material but if the foam is a different shape then that needs to be changed as well adding onto the cost.

I will research if further if there is any real interest.

Thanks

SubaruOnlineParts.com 06-14-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Specialized-Performance (Post 257157)
I will confirm that the BRZ headlight assy will work in the FRS. The plug harness will be different but can be rewired to work. I Just installed JDM Toyota 86 headlights on my FRS and the plug is identical to the BRZ. All I had to do is re-use (transfer) the plug from my FRS to the new light assembly and it plugged right in.

Woot! pics would be :confused0068:

Thanks

SnapOv3st3r 06-14-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmbkk (Post 254063)
Again, cheaper to just buy a BRZ. You'll pay more for the headlights than the price difference between the 2 cars.


So in another thread, it was stated that the BRZ headlights would run around $1k.

The difference between the two cars is $1,300-1,400.

The other thing that comes to mind is that the price you pay for the car, you have to look at the fact that you are drawing interest on a higher amount when buying the BRZ compared to an FR-S. So, I don't see how it would be cheaper to turn a BRZ into an FR-S, then an FR-S into a BRZ (when all you really want to get is the headlights).

The Dual Climate is only on the Limited BRZ and not on the Premium from what I gather as well.

How much is it for a painted front bumper of an FR-S to put on the BRZ?

xWiCkeDx 06-28-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruOnlineParts.com (Post 256395)
We are looking for a local (Long Island ,NY) member to work out the details in exchange for us providing all parts required at dealer cost. Right now on our site we are offering the headlamps for sale excluding the ballast/bulbs. A few things we would like to clear up are:
  • Will the lamp physically fit with no modifications and look and perform correctly
  • Will the FR-S plug fit the BRZ headlamp jumper harness
  • If an aftermarket HID kit is used is the BRZ jumper harness required?
  • How will the turn signals be effected, Are the FR-s indicators in the headlamp like the BRZ if not will FR-S owners be happy leaving these inop?


Below is the parts diagram for the BRZ , Lets open up this discussion to hammer out the details.

In the future will you offer to sell the ballast and bulbs with the housing?

SubaruOnlineParts.com 06-29-2012 11:36 AM

Sure we can offer the complete assemblies. PM me for more details if you are interested.

Thanks , Benny

GenkiElite 06-29-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 253739)
Be cheaper to buy a BRZ and turn it into a FRS

:search:

Ive honestly wondered about this. The suspension doesnt matter as it will probably be changed but I dont like the BRZ hairlip at all and was wondering what an FR-S bumper would cost. Maby people will start trading soon.

SubaruOnlineParts.com 07-03-2012 09:42 AM

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kndonlee Here is the PDF


-Benny

kndonlee 07-03-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruOnlineParts.com (Post 293707)
kndonlee Here is the PDF


-Benny

Thanks

SubaruOnlineParts.com 07-03-2012 01:45 PM

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Screenshot of HVAC box , Illustration is used for both Auto and Manual

MemphisR 07-03-2012 03:21 PM

So what does this mean? My car just uses cables and levers so please forgive me that I need it spelled out. This is saying that the dcc unit will work in an FRS?

SubaruOnlineParts.com 07-03-2012 03:24 PM

We are actually working with a another member here of figuring this out. Although the AUTO parts are available separate from the HVAC box. I would have to say the entire box needs to be replaced as there may be other differences in them. A complete list of parts needed will be posted once we figure this out.

Thanks, Benny

BioRage 07-03-2012 03:49 PM

About 5 K difference here for the BRZ Sport-Tech and the FR-S.

30K vs 35K OTD.

I'd say it be worth it,

+ leather with inserts
+ nav
+ start/stopbutton
+ hid
+ spoiler

mikeg7827 07-04-2012 09:23 PM

lol i am in long island ny.. but i cant see spending $750 to swap out the lights... i opted to just upgrade my fr-s lights with a ddmtuning.com hid kit (5k) and it looks awesome.

just for giggles i tried out a backup 3k hid bulb set (yellow in color) but with the prism projector it made it look orangey/very washed out

SubaruOnlineParts.com 07-16-2012 12:29 PM

We are still looking for a Local FRS owner looking to perform the swap in exchange for the parts at dealer cost.

We are located in Hicksville,NY

This is in regards to the headlight swap

Thanks, Benny

LSxJunkie 07-17-2012 12:17 AM

The parts involved in converting to Automatic Climate Control are probably far more invasive than just swapping the control panel.

I'm sure the housing for the BRZ's headlights will fit, but do you have to/is it possible to swap over the manual headlight adjustment as well?


Better off buying a BRZ and swapping the bumper.

WWEVOX 08-03-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruOnlineParts.com (Post 294230)
We are actually working with a another member here of figuring this out. Although the AUTO parts are available separate from the HVAC box. I would have to say the entire box needs to be replaced as there may be other differences in them. A complete list of parts needed will be posted once we figure this out.

Thanks, Benny

Any updates on this?

(and yes BRZ->FRS would be cheaper but my circumstances rule out the possibility of the BRZ unfortunately)

Evol_13 08-03-2012 05:25 PM

I am also interested in swaping the headlights on my FR-S with the BRZ. Can anyone list the complete kit of parts required?

Housing
lamps
Ballast
Wiring?
switches?

Also, to the people who keep letting us know that it would be cheeper to just buy a BRZ, please tell me where I can buy one within 500 miles of me without a $3k mark-up and I will be happy to go buy one!:mad0260:

Bottom line, the BRZ is hard to get!!


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