Leather Seats
 

I'm looking for comments and/or pics from owners who have installed aftermarket leather seats/seat covers.

I'm particularly interested in info on the Clazzio kits,installs.

I have the Sard seat covers; fitment was essentially perfect though I would not say the install was fun.

I too have the sards. I'm very happy with them, install was a work out though but I expected that.

I have pictures in my build thread.

Not mine but you'll see lots of pics here-- http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37972

I have SARD seat covers. 110% satisfied.

Fit is so great when I had my car appraised last week appraiser did not realize they were just covers!

Can't justify spending this much on covers when you could get good quality, aftermarket lightweight seats for just a little more. They look great though.

Cannot justify paying $4-600 on covers when a seat can be just as cheap? Please do point out these seats, that are properly crash tested and certified with the features and functions contained in the stock seats (air bags, sliders, adjustments, in some models heated) and they better be less than 250 a seat! :bonk:

These covers do come in pairs..and the more expensive covers come with rear seat coverings as well.

Stock seats are nice, but you can get much nicer aftermarket seats for $800/pair, which both look better and weigh a lot less. Pretty good solution if you're not comfortable messing with the side air bags though.

My rear seats are gone anyway. /shrug

Link to these seats you speak of? Does that $800 include rails and sliders?

http://www.andysautosport.com/racing..._brz/2013.html

Hundreds of options throughout any price range.

LOL please tell me where I can get TWO aftermarket seats for $350.

That is how much I paid for my SARD seat covers which was for the entire (front and rear) car.

EDIT: I did see your link above. It would be interesting to get someones review who has actually owned a pair of the seats available on the site. Also the seats explicitly state they require the brackets and mounting equipment to be purchased separately. So add another ~$100 per seat.

See link above. A lot of seats come with rails included. Quality and included rails vary by brand. Check individual descriptions to see if the seats you're looking at include them.

They are all common brands in the aftermarket seat business. Obviously you get better quality seats the more you spend, but you can get some very decent seats for around the $600-800 mark.

Have you ever had after market seats? :bonk:
Do you know you need Seats, Sliders(included in many) and BRACKETS? :bonk:
Do you know how much brackets cost? Go look it up. ~150 each. :bonk:
Do you know that the two halves of a seat on a reclining seat, top/bottom are joined together with a reclining mechanism, and cheap seats wiggle/giggle/ back and forth and there is a LOT play in them? :bonk:
The only low cost seats in that link that look decent are the cipher auto ones, made with "leatherette" which I would not call "nicer" :bonk: well, I have brz alcantara's so you probably have cloth seats? :bonk:

600-800 for your "nicer" seats w/ sliders included.
and 300 for BRACKETS. :bonk:
for that cost I could probably find a used set of EVO X seats made by RECARO

I'm not arguing with anyone, just offering facts. Aftermarket seats, rails, and brackets can all be purchased for around the $600-800 price range. If you want seats with better materials then you will pay a little more. Leather racing seats or heated/cooled Recaros are obviously going to be much more expensive. Cloth perfectly suits my needs and is preferred in our 100+ degree Texas sun.

You have the alcantara leather seats? Great! The seat covers aren't aimed at people like you who have nicer seats from the factory. All I'm saying is the price of these "covers", which honestly have poor fitment around the inside lower bolsters as anyone can see in the pictures, is starting to touch aftermarket seat territory.

Sorry, but the fitment shown below is extremely tacky and not worthy of my $500. I'd rather spend an extra $500 and get much nicer aftermarket seats. If tacky and wrinkled appearances are your thing however, then that is great for you. Some of us like to do things right rather than doing things cheaply.

http://i.imgur.com/ruS5344h.jpg

You are not one of them.
Show me where you can have seats, rails, AND BRACKETS for 600-800 that are actually "nicer" than stock. Don't show me crap. Brackets are 300!! :bonk:
NO after market seats include brackets so add ~300 to the cost. :bonk:
And it's obvious you have never had after market seats before. :bonk:
Cheap after market seats ALL HAVE PLAY. They move front and back and wiggle, they are NOT secure. I have NEVER seen a low cost reclinable NOT wiggle.
That picture is probably right after the install. A little heat and some time and they will tighten up. Same with the clazzio covers.

I'm sorry for messing up this thread. I am just sick of this guy trying to justify buying crappy after market seats and saying they are "nicer" and cost 600-800 when he does not take into account the cost of brackets and shipping.

All I'm doing is offering alternative solutions to $500 seat covers. People can do their own research and make their own decisions. Most people are not aware of where to purchase aftermarket seats or what brands to go with. I simply offered that resource. If you can't see that for what it is, then I'm sorry you'd rather act childish.

Bringing up shipping is a ridiculous argument. I checked out through SARD's site, $61.75 for shipping for the black covers, bringing the total up to $520+. If you want the red or blue options, you'll be paying over $600+ for the covers with shipping. Once again for a few hundred more, you start opening up nice options for aftermarket seats. Shipping through Andy's is only $40 more for seat pairs. You will pay $100-120 on average for shipping, which for how much money is being spent is not a very significant amount.

I really am sorry you'd rather act childish and fill your posts with emoticons rather than actually seeing my point. People like you are why others stray away from these forums. You can't make a comment without someone throwing a fit trying to be right 100% of the time.

The seat covers are a great option if you're going with the black ones, or if you're buying them used. If you want the other red or blue options, you could go aftermarket with nicer results for the price you pay for the covers. Not to mention once your aftermarket seats are installed, you can sell your stock seats to make up some of the cost. Worried? Find a buyer for your seats before you take them out.

If you'd like to mature up a bit, I would be glad to continue this discussion via private message so we do not fill this thread with arguing.

Can you directly answer my questions?
1. SHOW ME 600-800 with BRACKETS that are NICER than stock. 600 shipped is not the same as 600seats+300 brackets and another 150-200 for shipping(for seats AND brackets)
2. Have you ever seen/sat/tested in low cost reclinables? They have LOTS of play. Every time you brake, the seat will lurch forward. Every time you accelerate, the seat will lurch backwards.
3. People like you are why cars get riced out with shit parts.

1) I don't need to. If you read my posts at all, this is exactly what I said:

$1,000-$1,200 is a normal price range for good quality reclining CLOTH seats, with sliders, brackets, and even sometimes other installation hardware. I am simply saying if I'm going to invest $500-600 in seats, I might as well invest an extra $500 to get decent quality cloth aftermarket seats.

Not to mention again with aftermarket seats, you can sell the stock seats to make some money back. I've personally gotten offered anywhere from $150 to $400 for my stock seats. Why? The GT86 comes with very nice racing inspired seats from the factory, even the cloth version. A lot of people like them and would be a cheap upgrade to someone wanting to half-ass a seat setup. Would I put stock BRZ/FRS cloth seats in another car? Nope. I'll definitely sell them to someone who wants to, however.

What is "nice" to you may not be "nice" to someone else. Yeah, if you want leather seats with heat/cooling and premium stitching, you'll pay a lot more. If you're fine with cloth seats like a lot of people are, this significantly reduces costs. Its up for you to decide what you'd like to do. $500-600 for seat covers, or ~$1200 for actual racing seats which will support 4 and 5 point harnesses.


2) Everything I say here is from experience. You are correct in regards to this being a common issue with cheaper seats. I personally have not seen this issue with Cobreau CR1's which I have put in to three cars now. I would advise anyone wanting aftermarket seats to thoroughly research their choice's brand before purchasing.


3) To be completely honest, putting seat covers on a car is much more rice than installing actual quality, aftermarket seats. This is another ridiculous comment.


Please direct further questions to me via private message. I'll be more than happy to discuss this topic further with you privately.

"$600-800" is NOT the same as "~$1200" is not the same as 600 shipped.
1200 is NOT "a little more" than 600.

The guy is looking for LEATHER SEATS which is the name of the title of this thread. Which none of your solutions provide. Quit while you are ahead. :bonk: :cry:

For those of you who made it through that mess... here is a link to some pics of the Clazzio seat covers.
Clazzio Seat Covers for Scion FR-S - Leather / Quilted / Vinyl @ Guerilla Racing

Your reading comprehension skills are extremely lacking. Please go back and re-read my posts. I answered all your questions and that is the best you can come up with? :lol:

I simply offered an alternate solution with potentially better results. My Cobreau CR1's are cloth and look 100x better than the crappy covers you just posted. Many aftermarket cloth seats look so much better than these crappy "leather" covers. I guess some people enjoy wrinkled, tacky seat covers. Who knew?

Sorry, we didn't even touch the subject of the covers obstructing the side impact air bags. God forbid you ever experience a side impact collision with these covers. At least with an actual racing seat, you can at minimum use a 4 point harness which will actually help save your life.

I'll use your own argument against you. Invest the money to do it right rather than going with a ricer "cover" mod. These covers are almost as bad as plastidip. People like you are why we have guys running around with shitty riced out cars. Spend the money to do it right the first time rather than looking for the cheapest way to do something. :thumbsup:

OP, I'm considering Katzkin leathers for my car. I had them in my previous car and was very happy with the quality. They're a little more expensive than the SARDs or Clazzios, but actually replace the cloth rather than cover it.

I couldn't agree more.

I sprung for heated KATZKINZ a few weeks ago.

They look, feel and smell absolutely beautiful. If you really want to enjoy life in the slow lane as well as the fast lane, definitely give them a look...

@swarb Don't have a heart attack man. You should calm down.

Just read through your post history. You're quite the douchebag around here... explains all of your posts on this thread. Nearly all of your posts are aggressive in nature and filled with you trying to prove others wrong. Hope that is working out well for you. Adding you to my ignore list shortly. :lol:

I'd highly recommend Katzkin over anything else. You don't want to get covers to go over your seats. Something to actually replace the cloth or alcantara covers would be much better overall.

Even though I agree with you that quality leather seat covers are generally less expensive than quality aftermarket seats, you really don't have to be such a douchebag about it. You sound absolutely furious, I wonder how easy it is to tick you off in person.

:popcorn:

Whoever installed those seat covers did not have a clue how to do it properly.

I'm going to take pictures of mine at lunch and will upload later.

You literally cannot tell they are covers.
I was not kidding when I said I had my car appraised by a dealer and they had no idea I put seat covers on.

wow you two guys are derailing the thread and wasting my valuable brain energy on this morning as I sip my coffee.
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I want seat covers, and NOT bucket seats for safety reasons. If you're daily driving your car, you shouldn't op out for bucket seats. because you'll loose your side airbags. and you can't really do much about some toolbag running a red and T-boning you. So I'll wait until I get a daily and the brz becomes a track car.

I am interested in the Katzkin and was curious about that... in all the pictures I've seen it looked like they fit so well! I didn't realize they weren't covers. I'm not one to do any upholstery.... so how hard would it be to do one of the Katzkin?

I am anxious to see your photos!

The only katzkin products I have found at their site are complete re-uhpolstery kits sold only through installers.

If you have found katzkin seat covers, please post a link.

http://www.shopsar.com/subaru-brz-ka...atz-l2su63.htm

I just googled it. and this is what i had found. i love all the options.

The thing that bugs me about SARD is the logo on the seats..... but... if im going to have to pay hundreds in labor and can't do it myself... then well.... I guess SARD it is.

I really don't think it'll be very hard. It will take several hours depending on your skill level and patience, though.

Hmmm... I have 0 knowledge on that. so i guess i should look up some youtube videos and see whats up haha. thanks.

I can't post a link, but there's a Canadian Katzkin dealer on Ebay selling leathers for $699 I believe.

Here are a few pics I took today, sorry if quality sucks it was my cell phone.

Good going! Now I need those Sard covers!!! They look A+++++

Wow-awesome.

That makes me feel a lot better about what I might expect from a DIY kit

Thanks.

Your very welcome.

These were the first time I had ever attempted anything like it.

It took me about 1 hour to do them and I just had to be thorough and patient.

I'm sure if I went back and did it again I could do an even better job.

I've had these seat covers on my car about 1 1/2 years now and have never had to tighten or adjust them.

The way the look in those pictures is the way they have looked since day one and have required nothing from me to keep them that way.

They may not be the best thing out there, I imagine Katskins are better, but I'd wager for the money they are hard to beat.

Dont pay $500 you can get them cheaper.
I only paid $405 (after shipping costs, they came from Japan).
I had to organize a group buy for it but that was all it took.

Did you install them with the seats in the car, or did you remove the seats?

If I decide to go forward, I will probably do the katzkins, as I really don't care for the Sard logo.