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llawd 03-14-2015 10:04 PM

Ghetto two-seater mod
 
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I'll probably get flamed for this, oh well. :)
Maybe someone will have a better idea...

I like small well handling two-seater cars. That's what I've driven most of my life. So when I got the FRS, the first thing I did is put the back seat down.

I considered a seat delete kit. But they are expensive.
Just leaving the seat down leaves a flat, carpeted surface. Perfect. The problem with having the seat down is anything in the trunk is visible.

So I fabricated a simple panel to block the back like the seat does when it's up.

I made a prototype out of cardboard, painted black. It works fine.

The plan is to re-create it in plywood, covered in automotive carpet or something similar.
Ideally it will be two pieces with a hinge. so I can swing it up from the bottom to get into the trunk from the car.

Jesse36m3 03-14-2015 10:08 PM

Why not just fiberglass a piece?

That looks like shit. lmao

llawd 03-14-2015 10:10 PM

Of course it looks like shit. It's a piece of cardboard.

Burrcold 03-14-2015 10:36 PM

Why bother? It's one thing to do a rear seat delete, but to just fold down the seats and fabricate a piece to make it look like a two seater? I don't get it. Is it THAT terrible to look at the tiny rear seats?

8R6 03-14-2015 10:45 PM

i dont think folding down the rear seat counts as "rear seat delete"...

llawd 03-14-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 2169364)
Why bother? It's one thing to do a rear seat delete, but to just fold down the seats and fabricate a piece to make it look like a two seater? I don't get it. Is it THAT terrible to look at the tiny rear seats?

:iono:
Where does it say I want it to look like a two-seater?
Seat deletes are smooth and uneven. A folded seat is flat and carpeted.
Is it THAT terrible that I'm willing to spend a couple dollars? Yes it is.

Burrcold 03-14-2015 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by llawd (Post 2169385)
:iono:
Where does it say I want it to look like a two-seater?

Ummm in the subject title?

llawd 03-14-2015 11:25 PM

:( Christ. I'm an idiot. I guess I'm more tired than I thought.

:cheers:

Ultramaroon 03-14-2015 11:34 PM

lol

DaJo 03-14-2015 11:47 PM

Better to just get rid of the seat all together if you want to have a "2 seater"... #BecauseWeightReduction

Target70 03-15-2015 12:07 AM

I think the point is that he want's a flat carpeted "shelf" in the back instead of a bumpy seat or uneven sheet metal seat pan. When the seat is folded down it gives him that, but then all his trunk stuff is visible.

ZOMFGAARON 03-15-2015 12:15 AM

Ghetto two-seater mod
 
Maybe if it wasn't cardboard or plywood. I agree with Fiberglass


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CoupedUpSubie 03-15-2015 02:20 AM

Not really a new idea. A couple of us from New England have made them. I removed mine as it was more of a concept using body filler to get rounded edges. I'm going to make a nice one out of plywood using proper fillers and have it clad in leather and alcantara with red stitching. It probably won't be much lighter but will give it a two seater look.

Lonewolf 03-15-2015 02:29 AM

Why buy a 30K new car to stick cardboard into it...truly, we are now a honduh community

Ultramaroon 03-15-2015 02:40 AM

OMG, guys, he's just doing a mockup with the cardboard. Cut him some slack FFS.

Andrew025 03-15-2015 03:19 AM

Group buy?

cdrazic93 03-15-2015 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaJo (Post 2169433)
Better to just get rid of the seat all together if you want to have a "2 seater"... #BecauseWeightReduction

Why two seater? why not one seater? Who needs a passenger anyway :thumbsup:

Turbo95eg6 03-15-2015 06:31 AM

This is why you're not suppose to drink the bong water

chaoskaze 03-15-2015 06:45 AM

Man the moonshine I had last night at friend's party was awesome.

illest86 03-15-2015 09:51 AM

Amazing. A piece of cardboard between the passenger and driver seat would be the ultimate privacy.

rlpaul 03-15-2015 11:54 AM

These post always go the same way. Most of the board lacks reading comprehension (ooh pretty pictures!) and completely disregard that the photo is just a mock-up.

To the OP. Some of the seat delete kits actually do what you're looking at. Would be simple enough to recreate in plywood, and cover in carpet.

There's mounting points at the bottom of the seats that can be used, plus the two bolts at the front of the seats as well.

I opted for one of the kits personally, as I don't have a place to do this kind of work anymore, but there's a couple of threads on here about doing it.

Lonewolf 03-15-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rlpaul (Post 2169784)
These post always go the same way. Most of the board lacks reading comprehension (ooh pretty pictures!) and completely disregard that the photo is just a mock-up.

The fact remains...the cardboard is all that is there, and all that will be there for the foreseeable future. Posters always say that they are going to do this and that later...only to leave their ghetto rigged stuff in the cars for months/years....read between the lines

llawd 03-15-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 2169836)
The fact remains...the cardboard is all that is there, and all that will be there for the foreseeable future. Posters always say that they are going to do this and that later...only to leave their ghetto rigged stuff in the cars for months/years....read between the lines

Wrong. The only facts that remain are
1 - You don't know shit about me; and
2 - You made assumptions based on that lack of knowledge.

The cardboard was in my car for a couple days. And up until I created this thread, no one else on the planet had seen it.

Lonewolf 03-15-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by llawd (Post 2169845)
The cardboard was in my car for a couple days. And up until I created this thread, no one else on the planet had seen it.

Maybe you should have kept it that way until you actually rigged up something that looks somewhat acceptable...until then :thanks:

joe2628 03-15-2015 08:44 PM

DIY PLZ....!!:bonk:

Andrew025 03-16-2015 12:03 AM

I've been going to IKEA a lot lately. So I have a shit ton of cardboard.
I'll be selling custom seat deletes starting at $9.95+ sh+ your first born (don't ask, it's for my side business) for the first 5 orders.
If you don't get in on the group buy, msrp is going to be 7 easy payments of $29.95.

Mods: don't worry, I'll contact about becoming a vendor before I sell any.

llawd 03-16-2015 12:23 AM

My bad. I should have known big words like prototype would be over the heads of most people around here.

andrew5826 03-16-2015 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by llawd (Post 2169336)
I'll probably get flamed for this, oh well. :)

well you predicted it

Lonewolf 03-16-2015 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by llawd (Post 2170479)
My bad. I should have known big words like prototype would be over the heads of most people around here.

Hey i resemble that remark. Ill have you knoe I was learnt to spokes real good in schoolz.

llawd 03-16-2015 01:48 AM

Well folks do have a sense of humor, I'll give you that.

Just not when it comes to photos of cardboard. :bonk:



lol

Snowblind 03-16-2015 08:15 AM

OP lives in a trailer park for sure.

ChrisxChainsaw 03-16-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowblind (Post 2170691)
OP lives in a trailer park for sure.

Are you his neighbor?

Dadhawk 03-16-2015 09:35 AM

@llawd I like the CONCEPT/PROTOTYPE (for other forum members who missed that in the OP).

What would be even better is if it is thin enough to stay in place when the back seat is up, but given the way the back seats release from the trunk that might be difficult.

I would love to be able to do this when carrying Luna (our Newfoundland) around in my car. She curls up great on top of the seat when its down but "slides" into the trunk so she has to ride more uncomfortably with the seat up.

I may have to break out the cardboard and figure this out myself.

Snowblind 03-16-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisxChainsaw (Post 2170714)
Are you his neighbor?

Good one brah

Ultramaroon 03-16-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2170727)
I would love to be able to do this when carrying Luna (our Newfoundland) around in my car. She curls up great on top of the seat when its down but "slides" into the trunk so she has to ride more uncomfortably with the seat up.

How about a semi-permanent divider using some sort of fabric and velcro?

A hard wall however, would prevent the junk-in-yo-trunk missile hazards in a hard braking event or, God forbid, a frontal collision. ;)

headlikeahole 03-16-2015 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2170458)
I've been going to IKEA a lot lately. So I have a shit ton of cardboard.
I'll be selling custom seat deletes starting at $9.95+ sh+ your first born (don't ask, it's for my side business) for the first 5 orders.
If you don't get in on the group buy, msrp is going to be 7 easy payments of $29.95.

Mods: don't worry, I'll contact about becoming a vendor before I sell any.

Will the cardboard seat delete be shipped in a carboard box? If so thats like getting a free seat delete kit with your seat delete kit... Bonus.

rlpaul 03-16-2015 01:47 PM

@Dadhawk
I think you could fit a 'permanent' removable wall with the seats still in place, as behind the seats is just styrofoam and the trunk mat. With a bit of trimming, could have a piece coming out from 'under' the seat, and mounts to the same U bolt that the seats connect to. The issue there would be how to remove it easily when you need the seats down for cargo purposes.

You might be able to 'slot' it on the bottom, and use velcro as @Ultramaroon suggested on top. That way it would support something hitting it (a la Luna) and still easily removable. Pretty sure there's a lip on the styrofoam to support that. I don't recall offhand if the trunk mat and styrofoam end at the same point however. Might still require trimming of the trunk mat just get the divider to fit. I haven't had back seats installed in some time, so I don't recall how much space there is between the seat and the trunk area.

I have a bunch of photos sans back seat, but I don't seem to have one in that particular area. I will be taking out my rear seat delete to modify a couple things on it, so I'll try to snap a couple photos then so you can see how that area looks.

Dadhawk 03-16-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2170954)
How about a semi-permanent divider using some sort of fabric and velcro?

A hard wall however, would prevent the junk-in-yo-trunk missile hazards in a hard braking event or, God forbid, a frontal collision. ;)

My puppy is a 120lb projectile when she slides so it would have to be fairly substantial. Might have to finally do some CF layup I've been threatening to learn....

Looks like a little more CAD (cardboard aided design) would be needed before a final prototype!

Tgionet 03-16-2015 04:53 PM

CF layup is easy, just time consuming and expensive on the equipment side. You could probably get away without even making a mold for the upper, just laminate a core with some room temp wet-preg and pull vacuum over it.

CambakerFt8677 03-16-2015 07:18 PM

Hey hope this helps without all the BS everybody has to add in. Quick link will give you a cheap rear seat delete kit ( http://rearseatdelete.com/FRS-BRZ.html ) , I tried pricing materials and by the time you make it look pretty and right you will spend more trust me or close to it, so save yourself they gray hair and wait for a package.


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