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inimitable 06-11-2012 03:24 PM

Best way to find an available BRZ and advice
 
I don't feel like waiting, so I'm on the hunt for a BRZ.

I'm not extraordinarily particular about the color (I like a few of them), so I'm willing to compromise. However, it absolutely has to be a 6MT!

I will most likely go for the Limited, though this may be another area I'm willing to compromise in. By all means, voice your opinion on this, if you have one: Premium or Limited? I will have a better idea on this once I'm done looking over the specs and assigning them some value and utility.

My goal is to get one this week. Today would be even better. "Have BRZ? Will travel." I'd even fly if I had to; it would be a lot of fun taking the road trip back, and trying to grind out those first 1,000 miles. I am a bit concerned about getting screwed by a shady dealer trying to hustle me upon arrival. So, if anyone has any advice on that, I'd be much obliged.

I'm located in south Jersey, and at the moment, my only means of research besides my fellows at ft86club, is searching on autotrader or finding a dealer through the Subaru website, and then picking up the phone to make sure there is actually one in stock, and trying to get a price. Therefore, any other resources, one can offer me will also be greatly appreciated.

Anything else You might want to suggest, go ahead; I can use all the help I can get. This is my first time buying a new car, and I tend to make impulsive/impatient/irrational decisions, and I suppose, at times, this can make me a bit of a pushover, a real dream to a salesman.

Thanks In Advance, and I will certainly do my best to Pay It Forward!

Kimsey47 06-11-2012 03:27 PM

Well, I must say I LOVE my DGM Limited! All the features are great and I don't regret paying a little bit more for all the extras. If you're just getting this for a hobby car to build for some type of autoX or etc, then I could see you going Premium. Either way you can't go wrong!

Jayde 06-11-2012 03:29 PM

Can try both Mid-Hudson Subaru and Ruge's Subaru in Dutchess County, NY. Both are excellent dealers selling at MSRP. I know Ruge's had an auto last I spoke with my contact (yes, auto, but they might have something else now) and Mid-Hudson was getting a few in last week. Ask for Michelle at Mid-Hudson and Patrick at Ruge's. Tell them Anthony sent you, they'll know me. :)

Jayde 06-11-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimsey47 (Post 252809)
Well, I must say I LOVE my DGM Limited! All the features are great and I don't regret paying a little bit more for all the extras. If you're just getting this for a hobby car to build for some type of autoX or etc, then I could see you going Premium. Either way you can't go wrong!

:word:

Flat Black VW 06-11-2012 03:38 PM

I bought mine from Patrick Subaru in Shrewsberry NH, I live in VA so it was a long distance transaction and Tri Le was my salesman who picked me up from the boston train station and will pick up from the airport there also. They had very good customer service and Im sure Tri would be more than willing to help you out. When I left the lot Saturday they had a WRB Limited on the lot (not sure im manual or auto). Call them up, ask to speak with Tri and he will be more than happy to take care of you.
Also I do know they had an allotment of ~25 orders and only 5 pre-orders of which 3 fell through, and they got 7 during their first shipment. Good Luck!

King Tut 06-11-2012 03:45 PM

You are in the NE so you should have plenty of options. I would just use the Subaru website dealer search and call the 10 closest dealers and then move out from there. I know a couple weeks ago a NJ dealer had a WRB Limited with 6 speed manual available. Someone posted about it in this forum.

inimitable 06-11-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 252836)
You are in the NE so you should have plenty of options. I would just use the Subaru website dealer search and call the 10 closest dealers and then move out from there. I know a couple weeks ago a NJ dealer had a WRB Limited with 6 speed manual available. Someone posted about it in this forum.

I'm trying the Subaru website, but it's only showing me 6 dealer's near my ZIP. WTF? I can't seem to find anyway of adjusting the scope.

King Tut 06-11-2012 04:08 PM

You can't, just change it to the zip of one of the dealers and go from there. It took me a bit, but I contacted the 12 closest to me after writing down their info in a spreadsheet, haha.

inimitable 06-11-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 252878)
You can't, just change it to the zip of one of the dealers and go from there. It took me a bit, but I contacted the 12 closest to me after writing down their info in a spreadsheet, haha.

Good idea. I'm doing the same type of thing, right now...

inimitable 06-11-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 252826)
I bought mine from Patrick Subaru in Shrewsberry NH, I live in VA so it was a long distance transaction and Tri Le was my salesman who picked me up from the boston train station and will pick up from the airport there also. They had very good customer service and Im sure Tri would be more than willing to help you out. When I left the lot Saturday they had a WRB Limited on the lot (not sure im manual or auto). Call them up, ask to speak with Tri and he will be more than happy to take care of you.
Also I do know they had an allotment of ~25 orders and only 5 pre-orders of which 3 fell through, and they got 7 during their first shipment. Good Luck!

Besides Tri Le being a stand-up guy and everything working out for you, did you take any precautions in advance in an effort to secure your price?

I'm concerned because I went to check out an FR-S yesterday, locally, and when I got there, after they checked out my potential trade-in, and let me take it for a test drive, and got whatever other info. they could out of me, they tried to sell me the car for $32,XXX!!! Let me repeat, an FR-S for $32K+. I can't believe they were serious. Then, they wouldn't give up, and kept counter-offering me since they still had my keys from when they were checking out my trade-in. Finally, I said, come back with my keys; I'm leaving.

FWIW, I didn't ask the price over the phone, and don't remember if it was posted online; I just put some faith in the Toyota Pure Price Guarantee, or whatever, which was mentioned and offered to me when I put a deposit down at a different Toyota dealer last week.

DantKR 06-11-2012 04:28 PM

Do what I did. Subaru.com find dealer. Search around cities and check their inventory. If you find what you want on their site, call. If it's not sold you can put in a deposit and pick it up. If it is, move on. Keep going further and further out. Took me about 2 hours to find the one I bought.

inimitable 06-11-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 252906)
Do what I did. Subaru.com find dealer. Search around cities and check their inventory. If you find what you want on their site, call. If it's not sold you can put in a deposit and pick it up. If it is, move on. Keep going further and further out. Took me about 2 hours to find the one I bought.

It would be nice if most of them had updated their websites to include BRZ in the filters, though. I suppose I will try a few. I'm getting tired of making all of these cold-calls and having them all tell me the same story "...no, we don't, but we're getting one in soon. Can I have your name and number?"

inimitable 06-11-2012 05:01 PM

I've found 1 single BRZ so far out of ~11 calls. It's a CBS (black) 6-MT, premium; both of which would be my last choices, for the most part. Dang. What's worse, it's from one of the black-listed dealers! I asked about price, and I was told the MSRP. I asked if that's what it was selling for, and I was told "I don't know, you'll have to come in and talk to one of the sales managers, but I believe so." In other words, No. Fkking jokers. For reference, it was Colonial Subaru of Feasterville, PA.

inimitable 06-11-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 252906)
Do what I did. Subaru.com find dealer. Search around cities and check their inventory. If you find what you want on their site, call. If it's not sold you can put in a deposit and pick it up. If it is, move on. Keep going further and further out. Took me about 2 hours to find the one I bought.

On second thought, I'm getting some hits with this!:w00t:

CLTBRZ 06-11-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by inimitable (Post 253014)
On second thought, I'm getting some hits with this!:w00t:

Feel free to post what you find as you call around for those of us who are interested as well. I'll be doing this same thing next week when I get back into the states since I just found out my dealer won't get another until October.

inimitable 06-11-2012 05:37 PM

I've got a hit! A WRBP 6-MT, Limited (includes auto-dimming mirror, rear bumper applique, and Zylon covering...). It's ~1.5 hrs away. They gave me a price of $29,285, and are open till 9pm.

Thoughts?

Honestly, WRBP wasn't my first choice, nor even my second, initially, but it has really been growing on me. I've never had a blue car, though blue was my favorite color for most of my life (now, I don't really have a preference). My past 5 cars have been black (2x), white (2x), and silver (1x). I was thinking that maybe I'd like to brighten things up a little bit.

inimitable 06-11-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CLTBRZ (Post 253024)
Feel free to post what you find as you call around for those of us who are interested as well. I'll be doing this same thing next week when I get back into the states since I just found out my dealer won't get another until October.

The idea mentioned above of checking the dealer inventory has started working for me. I'm finding stock, and even some listings that have an icon to display that the car has arrived and is in transit (currently sitting at a port), which means it's probably a week or so away from making it to the dealer.

Mostly, I've just come up with a lot of vagueness...

DantKR 06-11-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by inimitable (Post 253044)
I've got a hit! A WRBP 6-MT, Limited (includes auto-dimming mirror, rear bumper applique, and Zylon covering...). It's ~1.5 hrs away. They gave me a price of $29,285, and are open till 9pm.

Thoughts?

Honestly, WRBP wasn't my first choice, nor even my second, initially, but it has really been growing on me. I've never had a blue car, though blue was my favorite color for most of my life (now, I don't really have a preference). My past 5 cars have been black (2x), white (2x), and silver (1x). I was thinking that maybe I'd like to brighten things up a little bit.

I love the car and color in WRB. Is 29285 MSRP with all the stuff on it? If so go for it if you can afford it, if not keep looking.

Jayde 06-11-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by inimitable (Post 253044)
I've got a hit! A WRBP 6-MT, Limited (includes auto-dimming mirror, rear bumper applique, and Zylon covering...). It's ~1.5 hrs away. They gave me a price of $29,285, and are open till 9pm.

Thoughts?

Honestly, WRBP wasn't my first choice, nor even my second, initially, but it has really been growing on me. I've never had a blue car, though blue was my favorite color for most of my life (now, I don't really have a preference). My past 5 cars have been black (2x), white (2x), and silver (1x). I was thinking that maybe I'd like to brighten things up a little bit.

Out of curiosity, which dealer?

joshua 06-11-2012 06:56 PM

I hit up Google and searched for Subaru dealers fanning out like everyone else till I found one with a BRZ in stock/in transit that was asking MSRP. Found one over in NM, so I'm going to fly over there and drive it back.

That frees up a order slot at Proctor Subaru in Tallahassee, FL for someone else to grab...

sdiver68 06-11-2012 09:51 PM

I had good luck with Cars.com, found one exactly how I wanted it in stock.

CLTBRZ 06-12-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sdiver68 (Post 253467)
I had good luck with Cars.com, found one exactly how I wanted it in stock.

After contacting 4 dealers I found one that wasn't charging market adjustment and was exactly what I wanted. I'll let everyone know how the out of state experience goes, and how much fun my 14 hr drive home is, assuming everything works out beautifully :happyanim:

#87 06-12-2012 10:27 AM

hah, I thought my 4 hour drive was a bit outrageous, :bow: you guys

I found mine through autotrader, called and got a price, went and bought it

There is still a Silver Premium 6MT in the Bronx for MSRP, surprised it hasn't sold yet lol

inimitable 06-12-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayde (Post 253065)
Out of curiosity, which dealer?

Multi Subaru in Union, NJ.

And to answer the question before, Yes, it was for the Limited version, which includes mostly everything.

inimitable 06-12-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CLTBRZ (Post 254118)
After contacting 4 dealers I found one that wasn't charging market adjustment and was exactly what I wanted. I'll let everyone know how the out of state experience goes, and how much fun my 14 hr drive home is, assuming everything works out beautifully :happyanim:

Yes, I'm actually looking forward to the out of state experience and the drive home. Though, I can't say I feel like driving 14 hrs, at least not these days. However, I did it when I bought my last car; I flew out, and drove it home from Texas to NJ.

Enjoy!

inimitable 06-12-2012 11:11 AM

Ideally, I'd like a SSM (sterling silver) 6-MT, Limited...

Back on the hunt.

#87 06-12-2012 11:19 AM

Saw at least 1 on auto trader listed at Five Star Subaru in Oneonta NY. There are pages of listing so I'm sure you can find one.

wrbbrz 06-12-2012 11:46 AM

I'm in the same boat as you, but in DE. I've got one pre-ordered, but I have no idea when its getting here. So if I can find one I'll jump on it.

inimitable 06-12-2012 01:38 PM

I may have found what I was looking for. Cross your fingers...

Waiting for fax of buyer's order, etc. then making deposit over the phone.

Car won't be able to be ready today, and their finance department is swamped, apparently. Planning to take the train up (100 mi. ~2hrs.) north to pick it up tomorrow morning/early afternoon.

Supposedly, getting a price of a couple hundred less than MSRP, and I hadn't even haggled; he offered it to me. I will surely let you all know how it goes, and definitely aim to leave high marks and white-list feedback for a positive experience.

Go, Go, Go!

inimitable 06-12-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wrbbrz (Post 254257)
I'm in the same boat as you, but in DE. I've got one pre-ordered, but I have no idea when its getting here. So if I can find one I'll jump on it.

What combination are you looking for? Are you willing to travel?

Take the advice I've been offered:

Subaru.com > BRZ > locate dealer > zip code > view more dealers > view their inventory > if you see what you want, CALL, if not > get a zip code of a higher volume area (likely North-East, particularly along the coast, mind the port areas) and repeat, till you find what you want > CALL to be sure it's in stock, and determine price (as some are gouging); have a buyer's order and other paperwork faxed > determine logistics of travel: planes, trains, and automobiles

GL!

inimitable 06-12-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by #87 (Post 254214)
Saw at least 1 on auto trader listed at Five Star Subaru in Oneonta NY. There are pages of listing so I'm sure you can find one.

Yes, I noticed a few on Autotrader, but after making a couple of calls, I found that they weren't necessarily in stock. Also, not every dealer lists on Autotrader, or cars.com, etc.

I was also hoping to avoid NY, and if possible, stay in state. That way, I could take the train to my destination, and not have to burden anyone with driving me there and then making a return trip home.

Mtechnik 06-12-2012 01:55 PM

I have been doing the same thing as you inimitable, I have directly contacted around 30 or more dealers, and the dealers in the SouthEast are greedy, over MSRP & high dealer fees. Although, just this morning I had great success on Cars.com! Secured my SSM 6MT Limited in NY. We are going up there in two weeks for a wedding and are going to drive her back!

FYI- BEST dealer I have found to date. At MSRP & NO dealer fee! They have cars available, contact Rafael at Star Subaru 718-819-0100, let him know I referred you. He's an enthusiast too.

Good luck with the hunt!

Jon

xwd 06-12-2012 02:05 PM

Best bet is to just look on cars.com or autotrader. I found the one I wanted on Autotrader at a dealer in the northeast selling cars for MSRP. Having it shipped down to Atlanta now.

wrbbrz 06-12-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by inimitable (Post 254443)
What combination are you looking for? Are you willing to travel?

Take the advice I've been offered:

Subaru.com > BRZ > locate dealer > zip code > view more dealers > view their inventory > if you see what you want, CALL, if not > get a zip code of a higher volume area (likely North-East, particularly along the coast, mind the port areas) and repeat, till you find what you want > CALL to be sure it's in stock, and determine price (as some are gouging); have a buyer's order and other paperwork faxed > determine logistics of travel: planes, trains, and automobiles

GL!

:thanks:Thanks man, I'll keep working on it. I'm willing to travel, but not as far as some people, my biggest goal is to get it at MSRP and not getting screwed after I travel.

Flat Black VW 06-12-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by inimitable (Post 252897)
Besides Tri Le being a stand-up guy and everything working out for you, did you take any precautions in advance in an effort to secure your price?

I'm concerned because I went to check out an FR-S yesterday, locally, and when I got there, after they checked out my potential trade-in, and let me take it for a test drive, and got whatever other info. they could out of me, they tried to sell me the car for $32,XXX!!! Let me repeat, an FR-S for $32K+. I can't believe they were serious. Then, they wouldn't give up, and kept counter-offering me since they still had my keys from when they were checking out my trade-in. Finally, I said, come back with my keys; I'm leaving.

FWIW, I didn't ask the price over the phone, and don't remember if it was posted online; I just put some faith in the Toyota Pure Price Guarantee, or whatever, which was mentioned and offered to me when I put a deposit down at a different Toyota dealer last week.

He first sent me a text picture of my invoice and then he overnighted me all of the official paperwork.

FWIW he and I were talking this morning and he mentioned that he does have a Limited WRB 6MT on his lot still for sale.

Lee358 06-12-2012 06:01 PM

Im pretty sure there is still a black limited mt at wayne subaru in nj

inimitable 06-13-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mtechnik (Post 254466)
I have been doing the same thing as you inimitable, I have directly contacted around 30 or more dealers, and the dealers in the SouthEast are greedy, over MSRP & high dealer fees. Although, just this morning I had great success on Cars.com! Secured my SSM 6MT Limited in NY. We are going up there in two weeks for a wedding and are going to drive her back!

FYI- BEST dealer I have found to date. At MSRP & NO dealer fee! They have cars available, contact Rafael at Star Subaru 718-819-0100, let him know I referred you. He's an enthusiast too.

Good luck with the hunt!

Jon

SSM FTW!!!

I found what I was looking for and am making the journey by train today, and will be driving her back. Pics when I get home...

BTW, the dealership I found is Liberty Subaru in Emerson, NJ (the very top of NJ, across from NYC). The are located in an "affluent" area, and the NJ transit train has a stop about a block away from the dealership, for anyone looking/willing to travel. Here's the link to their inventory: http://www.libertysubaru.com/new-inventory/index.htm but the SSM is mine!

Also, I remember seeing them mentioned on a whitelist (positive dealer experience) thread for the NJ/NY area: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...+subaru&page=2

FWIW, they had two others available on the website, but I think one was an auto. The other, I think, was WRB, 6-MT premium.

Best of all, when I called asking the price, the salesman said he could do $200 UNDER MSRP. I hadn't even begun to haggle.

choi0706 06-13-2012 03:56 PM

west houston subaru has a DGM auto limited.. but its auto..

inimitable 06-13-2012 05:27 PM

Score!

I'm at the dealership now to pick up my car - liberty Subaru in Emerson New Jersey - I can Co firm that they have another 6-MT limited in WRB sitting out front, unsold! They are selling at or below MSRP! I REPEAT, SELLING AT OR BELOW MSRP! They gave me a price of $200 below MSRp over the phone yesterday, and they kept their word.

inimitable 06-13-2012 09:34 PM

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This was the only picture I had time to take. I just got home. It drives like a dream. I love it.

Dang, I don't know why it came out sideways. It's not on my PC or phone.


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