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duke_FRS 03-09-2015 08:38 PM

HIDS don't light up.
 
I bought 55w 6k HIDS but they don't light up.. Do I need to order the relay harness?

continuecrushing 03-09-2015 08:45 PM

uh.

We need a little more description.

A relay is a good idea though.

Have you checked fuses? Wiring?

boredom.is.me 03-09-2015 08:45 PM

1) Do you have HID projectors, or are you running stock projectors?
2) What brand did you get?

8R6 03-09-2015 09:15 PM

you sure you didnt plug in the wires backwards/flipped around? and 55w is unnecessary. a good 35w kit will be more than sufficient.

Chimera 03-09-2015 09:19 PM

Assuming that you wired everything right does the halogen still light? If no you should check fuses. If yes you didn't wire it right. 55w is unnecessary. But now that you have it you probably want the harness for reliability.

duke_FRS 03-09-2015 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 2162264)
uh.

We need a little more description.

A relay is a good idea though.

Have you checked fuses? Wiring?

Fuses work. I plugged the old ones and they light up no problem.

duke_FRS 03-09-2015 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 2162265)
1) Do you have HID projectors, or are you running stock projectors?
2) What brand did you get?

Standard Projector to blind ppl (j/k sorta..)

Kensun h11 I used them on my ISF and CT200h no issues.

HachiRo 03-09-2015 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_FRS (Post 2162324)
Standard Projector to blind ppl (j/k sorta..)

Kensun h11 I used them on my ISF and CT200h no issues.

Try flipping the plug that you plug into the stock harness thingy. I'm running Kensuns no problem.

duke_FRS 03-09-2015 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HachiRo (Post 2162331)
Try flipping the plug that you plug into the stock harness thingy. I'm running Kensuns no problem.


Tried that too. :iono:

HachiRo 03-09-2015 09:45 PM

Did you clip in the other cord hard enough? I forgot the name but you have to push it in really hard.

duke_FRS 03-09-2015 11:33 PM

Fix!!!! Called my buddy up he had some CAN-BUS: MORIMOTO relaya and they beamed up!

Makes a HUGE difference!!!

swarb 03-09-2015 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_FRS (Post 2162474)
Fix!!!! Called my buddy up he had some CAN-BUS: MORIMOTO relaya and they beamed up!

Makes a HUGE difference!!!

Good job! post pics of the beam pattern on a wall and show us how you are blinding everyone! hahaha:confused0068:

duke_FRS 03-09-2015 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2162481)
Good job! post pics of the beam pattern on a wall and show us how you are blinding everyone! hahaha:confused0068:

Tomorrow.. Wife said I cant go outside and play anymore. lol

HachiRo 03-10-2015 12:04 AM

Make sure to adjust the beams using the two Silver/Grey knobs on the back of the headlights. When I first installed I somehow screwed them to point all the way down. Screwed them up and now I get highs flashed at me every night :( readjusting tonight.

Poodles 03-10-2015 01:16 AM

Make sure to at least bend the squirrel finders...


Though it's still a shitty thing to do to run an HID kit oand especially a 55w kit...

Koa 03-10-2015 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2162605)
Make sure to at least bend the squirrel finders...


Though it's still a shitty thing to do to run an HID kit oand especially a 55w kit...

uhh.. been running 35w OLM HID kit in my stock projectors for months and never have received an angry flash.

Even had my mates drive it around with me in other cars, all sorts of scenarios- oncoming, tangent, intersection passes... we all agree that the cutoff is sufficient to not even bother people/have them notice if you have the headlights adjusted correctly.

Meanwhile.. I'm >LOVING< the upgrade. For $110 bucks, you can't go wrong.

The only real suggestion I would say is spend the little extra for TheRetrofitSource mini mori retrofit kit.

Poodles 03-10-2015 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2162610)
uhh.. been running 35w OLM HID kit in my stock projectors for months and never have received an angry flash.

Even had my mates drive it around with me in other cars, all sorts of scenarios- oncoming, tangent, intersection passes... we all agree that the cutoff is sufficient to not even bother people/have them notice if you have the headlights adjusted correctly.

Meanwhile.. I'm >LOVING< the upgrade. For $110 bucks, you can't go wrong.

The only real suggestion I would say is spend the little extra for TheRetrofitSource mini mori retrofit kit.



http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...pscde49cee.jpg


Been glared by several FRS's around here. Just because you don't get flashed, doesn't mean you're not glaring people.

Koa 03-10-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2162647)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...pscde49cee.jpg


Been glared by several FRS's around here. Just because you don't get flashed, doesn't mean you're not glaring people.

Are you ignoring the fact I've personally driven past my own vehicle in various conditions with no outstanding glare- and had other people with me to judge? (not fanboy friends, actual friends who would tell me if my shit wasn't correct)

swarb 03-10-2015 01:53 PM

35w is passable.
55w is pushing it.
Any hid kit on a non-projector is the worst.

Chimera 03-10-2015 02:18 PM

There are a few trucks around where I live clearly running blue like 8k or even 10k (one guys is straight up purple) in reflector housings. overall it actually doesn't bother me much TBH.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2163098)
35w is passable.
55w is pushing it.
Any hid kit on a non-projector is the worst.


illicitstylz 03-10-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2162647)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...pscde49cee.jpg


Been glared by several FRS's around here. Just because you don't get flashed, doesn't mean you're not glaring people.

that's less light than light from a light post or a flashlight from 100 yards out. big whoop.

Poodles 03-11-2015 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illicitstylz (Post 2163210)
that's less light than light from a light post or a flashlight from 100 yards out. big whoop.



Keep thinking that. Truth is if you're blinding people.

D_Thissen 03-11-2015 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2164104)
Keep thinking that. Truth is if you're blinding people.

Have you noticed that even OEM HID's have some glare when you seem them from head on? It's so you can read the signs on the side of the road. If no there was zero light above the cut off you wouldn't be able to. Are these projectors perfect? No they aren't. But I don't believe they are dangerous. A few of my lighting buddies agree that for halogen projectors, they do an excellent job.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9116

Simplicity 03-11-2015 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2164125)
Have you noticed that even OEM HID's have some glare when you seem them from head on? It's so you can read the signs on the side of the road. If no there was zero light above the cut off you wouldn't be able to. Are these projectors perfect? No they aren't. But I don't believe they are dangerous. A few of my lighting buddies agree that for halogen projectors, they do an excellent job.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9116

The oem projector is actually really good.. I can careless about blinding people when I can just bend the squirrel thing down. Save your money instead of getting a retrofit

Poodles 03-11-2015 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2164125)
Have you noticed that even OEM HID's have some glare when you seem them from head on? It's so you can read the signs on the side of the road. If no there was zero light above the cut off you wouldn't be able to. Are these projectors perfect? No they aren't. But I don't believe they are dangerous. A few of my lighting buddies agree that for halogen projectors, they do an excellent job.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9116



Small and overexposed pictures don't show glare well. Also, there's VERY little light above the cutoff.


The DOT specs for HID and halogen lighting are very different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 2164128)
The oem projector is actually really good.. I can careless about blinding people when I can just bend the squirrel thing down. Save your money instead of getting a retrofit



I've already gotten into this discussion many times, there are output limits for lighting, and because you're dealing with a light source essentially 2x brighter, the area under the cutoff is going to be too bright and the output will be far more narrow than a true HID projector.


People shouldn't "save their money" on proper lighting as it's safety equipment. You wouldn't cheap out on seat belts, brakes, or tires would you?




Oh wait, I work in the autoparts industry, of course people cheap out on this crap all the time...


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