Brand New FRS want E85 Tune
 

So I just got a 2015 FRS with the Borla Cat-Back on Saturday and I already want to get the OpenFlash Tablet with Stage 2 E85 Tune. I have a E85 gas station at the corner of my house and near my job so fuel will not be an issue.

My question is how long should I wait before I pull the tiger?

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Only reason I would wait is so you can see/feel the differences between the two. I waited 3 months, and wish I got it earlier. I'm 100% happy with my oft purchase, even with stage 1. I will do E85 when I have data logging figured out, I don't want to chance that part.

not sure if thats a good idea

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You thinking of going turbo this summer brah?
(Sidenote: I don't think you should ever pull a tiger. Don't think it would end up good)

I don't plan on going turbo till next year when I'm 100% used to the car.

So should I just stick with the 93 tune?

One thing I did before I decided on going e85 was checking when I go to meets (I live in Madison, wi) there's e85 fill stations along the route. That way I know for sure if I go I wouldn't have to worry about caring extra fuel in the trunk.

Also keep in mind yur mpg will suffer going to e85. I went from getting 26mpg to 19mpg. Almost all city driving

Why not go EcuTek so you can run Flex Fuel and get the power without having to worry about what your content is? ;)

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Wouldn't I have to get the flex fuel kit?


BTW thank you everyone for the feedback.

Yes you would, but it makes everything much more precise, and you don't have to worry about finding another E85 station when you're running low on gas far away from home and you want to put more in.

-Zach
Delicious Tuning

My definition of a tiger: A 600 ***** that eats YOU.

Get this: http://www.delicioustuning.com/flexfuel

I wish it was out when I was shopping at the time.

I reviewed it but it ends up being around 2k with the FlexFuel Kit and EcuTuk tune.:eyebulge:

Option 1
you have ability to flash

700 flex fuel kit
300 ecutek licience
300 flex fuel tune
400 ecuteck cable/dongle/programming kit

Option 2
you get to ecutek tuner and they flash it for you ie no cable kit required
700 flex fuel kit
300 ecutek licience
300 flex fuel tune

cons - you cannot flash/reflash yourself

Option 3
You get to ecutek tuner and they flash you a 4 map switchable tune
91/93/E30/E85
$300 Ecutek 4 map switchable tune
$300 ecutek licience

cons you cannot reflash yourself
and it always defaults to map 1 each startup so you have to remember to swich to correct map each startup with cruise stalk.

Option 4
Buy OFT
Free tunes included
you have flash device you can flash what you want
no licience required
tunes included for E85
if you get headers later you also get tunes for that.
they have tunes for their specific turbo and supercharger kits
cost $500

Option 5
buy Tactrix cable
do lots of reading tune it yourself
cost $170

Lol I was just messing with you about the turbo...
Well my car isn't running on e85 but since you seem like you're not a troll and asked for my opinion I would probably wait a while and stick with 93 for a while then jump up to e85 so you can really feel how big the difference is.(if that makes sense) However you said you had an e85 station at the corner of your house and if I had one at the corner I know it would be hard to resist.

So you want to tune your engine but $2k is too much?

Yeah, you should reconsider your priorities.

-alex

Wait until break in period is complete, because the e85 tune is rev happy

@sales@delicioustuning.com is this correct regarding options 1, 2, 3?

he wants to turbo next summer tho

It's okay, a turbo won't blow up the engine or anything. No chance whatsoever.

OP is safe.

-alex

to be fair he may just be sticker shocked by the outlay a proper flexfuel kit is when OFT can get you to E85 power for $400 used on the member's classifieds.

I love my OFT but keep in mind, the cheaper way comes with two drawbacks, one more an inconvenience (procedure to switch maps between fuel sources) and the other a potential disaster. The OFT method is not dynamic enough to account for variances in corn juice. One bad batch of corn juice can cause significant variances in trims, or worse, knock and potential for engine damage. N

OP do remember the usefulness of flex setups carry over into FI if you really are serious.. the $2k is nothing for the peace of mind and convenience of a true flexfuel setup is.

I run tactrix/openflash for my wrx with both petrol and E85 tunes (shoutout to brandon at XPT/Nastysoc) and one time had such a bad batch of E85 that I thought I was going to detonate my engine before I could even limp it home to jack it up and drain out. Never again did I go E85 on opensource tuning for FI.. not as much to lose with lower power levels or N/A but I was pushing that little EJ pretty aggressively, so I wouldn't risk it. Not on a subaru engine as finicky as the 205.

and when I FI this machine after the drivetrain warranty is up, I will be running a flex for that very reason..

I appreciate all the feedback. I guess the right thing to do would be to break everything in, purchase the EcuTek, and then wait a while before I grab the FlexFuel Kit. Wayyy after that work on my FI kit.

The standard Flex Fuel Kit we sell is actually $595, license we sell is $345, and cable kit is $350. If we flash it in person you don't need a cable kit, or you can use a friend's if you have any around that own a cable kit. Tune itself is $300.

Total cost for true Flex Fuel setup with cable kit: $1,590
Without Cable Kit: $1,240

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Get the OFT, wish I had e85 so I could run their setup.

Don't, ever.

go OFT and e85!

Although, maybe wait for 1k until the car is broken in...you'll wanna beat on the car with e85 haha, and the car is still new and EVERYTHING is being broken in, not just the engine.

now, sub'd for when people go off on tangents about what I just said!