Which intake system is better?
 

I am going to install new intake system, but I do not know which is good or better? Can you recommend which one is best? or Any other opinions?

1. Injen Technology SP1230P air intake system
2. aFe TM-2013B-D Takeda Wrinkle Black Stage-2 Pro Dry S Air Intake System for Scion FR-S, H4-2.0L
3. Perrin Cold Air Intake - Red - 2013 Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S

If you really had to get an intake, I would go for the Grimmspeed intake.

But I would save your money for Open Flash Tablet. You'll probably get better results from the OFT anyways.

None of those. Drop in filter is all you need.

Stock, drop in filter. The standard setup is quite efficient. Some say to drop the bumper and remove the snorkel that goes into the stock airbox, that will free up flow. Then tune.

Why do we always get the same questions on this forum....? :search:

The search through the forum is pretty crappy, but if you search using Google the first things to come up are threads on this forum...

trd wait for it

Why do people insist on taking the time to say search instead of just answering? Sometimes those forums are so convoluted it's hard to get an answer and sometimes things change, Idk maybe new dynos or reliability issues etc. People want answers not a shovel...teach a man to dig and he can make a whole...give him the answers and he won't have to lol

This is what I've heard since day 1 and it's much cheaper!


Edit: also, this is what I did. Felt the difference instantly and took 5 minutes and $50

Because we get the same questions that have been answered numerous times. Having hundreds of threads on "what is the best intake?" is beating a dead horse :reposthorse:

If you spoon feed a baby forever, it will never learn to feed himself. :thumbup:

But things change as people have the intakes over time and some of those threads are sooo look long with **** measuring contests true facts troll facts and random b.s. it's hard to go through them and get useful info.
You take the time to click a thread read a question then just say"search omg!" Why even bother? We know we can search but we ain't got 3 hours to wade through the b.s. there :(.

Maybe we can summarize the Owners Manual while we're at it.

Lol and sigh. Never mind I guess new people aren't welcomed along with new questions or updated questions.
Instead of summarizing the manual we can treat the forums like...."refer to the manual" since its always so clear like old forum posts.

It is not a new question. Intake game hasn't changed much except maybe a few new models. It's been proven that intakes make little to no power without a tune/maf scaling, which nearly all of these people don't/won't have. All the ones that do make more than 2-3hp(over a drop in) are just fooling the ecu into running lean. Search intake and look at how many intake questions we have in the last month.

This question is not new. If there is new information to be had, take the 3 hours to wade through the vast information presented here and find it yourself. Why is that difficult? Oh you can't be bothered? Neither can we, which is why we tell people to search. Just like when someone asked to have the Owner's Manual summarized because they couldn't be bothered to read it. We're not against newbies, we're simply against lazy entitled newbies.

Remove the filter for best gains!

I can't seem to find the thread but I know there was a huge intake thread where dynos were posted from different intake systems that showed that Injen made the most power overall. Because of that I'd say Injen is the one to consider just based on that because that's what we all want right? ;)

http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/_1413816906.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/Pr...u-BRZ-dyno.jpg

I've got these regularly in stock ready to ship or be picked up, just PM me ;)

a supercharger is technically an intake mod. It's just an intake with a tiny fan inside.

Install a small dollar store fan to push air into the snorkel.... A sort of air charger so to speak...

If the dollar store fan provides to little of this boost effect, attach it to your crankshaft so it can spin faster.

Just my $0,02.

The information on how to do this is available on the internet. You just need to SEARCH for it.

The SEARCH ability becomes more and more invaluable as users spam the world with questions that have been answered in multiple threads.

In other words, users who make these pointless threads are the the reason why people say "it's so hard to go through all those threads to find what i need. Can't you just give it to me? I'm lazy and/or inept."

I love my TRD intake.

Not going to argue benefit of it, but aesthetically I love it.

Everyone and their mother will say do a drop-in. For the money, not a bad idea. I went from a drop in k&n to an injen, 3x the feel the drop in filter gave me after 4k rpm. Sounds good WOT and looks nice in the engine bay. The old injens were shit and popped CEL's.

But you CAN be bothered to type just as many words as "drop-in" to tell us to search etc.

Fine it's all been said but it's just as easy to answer. He asked the question the damage is done (one more hit on the search) so be a pal and answer instead of ridicule or w.e.

Sorry. I get where you're coming from but saying "search" on all posts hardly helps just like my back and forth makes this post harder to wade through.

you mean you didn't instantly FEEL it?

It's like 30 pages long with troll fests and internet mentality.
I know what you're talking about and I can't find it either but eventually people start hating on the injen and it ends up being useless as far back as I got in all those pages. :(

or go straight racing suction intake like HKS? bye bye to air boxes

If I could do it all over again I will say I would've gone with grimmspeed. Love their design with the inlet pipe and gains have been proven over and over.
From what I remember reading, all the aftermarket intakes AFTER a tune are about the same (within a few HP). However without a tune the Injen was up top due to it tricking the MAF sensor as someone mentioned before.

Say bye bye to airbox and say Hello to heat soak! :bonk:

I would go with the first or second option. I had the Injen on my previous car and had no problems. About the Afe, I heard good things about it.

[Fanboy]Grimmspeed or drop-in. No other real choices since G/S came onto the scene.[/Fanboy]

For real, I love mine. G/S are great guys, too.. so there's that. Been running their electronic boost solenoid in my WRX pushing 18psi on the stock TD04 snail for over 7 years, no issues. All of their products are thoughtful, designed to maximum benefit, and made in America. What more could you ask?

I did the TRD intake and LOVE it. Built for the car.

I second GrimmSpeed. I love their products so much that my whole entire engine bay is dressed with their parts. Anything they made for the BRZ/FRS, I have it on there. They do some real quality stuff and they've proven it.

In the end though, it's up to you and based on those three that you posted, I would go for Takeda.

Interesting opinions on the GrimmSpeed intake... Maybe it's because the shop I went to didn't stock it and they wanted a sale, but they had NOTHING good to say about GS when I asked about the GS intake.

I'd say drop in is sufficient enough. And filter wise, all are about the same. I use the Cosworth filter. Good enough for government work.

See, straight forward. Not hard at all. So much easier than saying, Search. right? hahahahha

Lol. It's as easy as nagging someone and saying search.
I searched the other day and then got called it for posting on an old post... Can't win here :(

I know. But it's the internet after all haha

their opinions don't mean much when G/S does the research that shows their methodology and approach..

but then again, intakes don't mean much unless we're talking about some serious min maxing here. Quality wise, G/S is hard to beat. Hands down..

Check out their stock intake testing thread.. some awesome information about the stock intake system and thus, the foundation thought process that went into their intake development mindset.

Perhaps Grimmspeed's greatest quality is their thoughtfulness combined with technology. This should speak volumes about their specific intake configuration that anyone can understand:

"Using our FARO Arm, we were able to MAP the engine bay in 3D to ensure a perfect fitment. We used that working envelope to maximise performance by eliminating the 90 degree bend just before the airbox. We found that this contributed to decreased resistance, but also helped with accurate MAF readings. We placed the MAF sensor inside the airbox to ensure that the heat from the motor and headers didn't skew it's readings."

I've tuned my engine with Grimmspeed intake and OFH, based on the OTS v2.06 petrol UEL map... fuel trims below 3% at any load/voltage/rpm bucket, with most hovering around 0-0.78%... absolutely no IAM drop, very rare tip-in knock and FLKC only in heavy traffic, where IATs climb to 120F+... and while I can't say with authority that my MAF readings are more "accurate" or if I've really made gobs of power over a drop-in filter, but all of these qualities about their setup in conjunction with my logs and butt dyno make me a very happy customer. So glad I didn't have a crappy fitting intake, or worse, one that skews MAF placement or readings and thus is detrimental to the engine. It simply "works".

Oh and... to the shop.. I wager their products have been used, abused, and proven on WRX and STI platforms since before that shop was open.. no offense to them. Unless they're a huge tuning house, then I'll put my foot in my mouth.

They may or may not be a vendor on here, so I'm not entirely sure what I'm able to say.

speak freely.. you're not their employee, are you? Don't have to name drop but what exactly did they say about G/S and what evidence have they put forth that backs their claims up?

or were they just trying to get a sale from one of the intakes they had in stock because people aren't fooled by most of the subpar offerings and they aren't flying off the shelves?

My 2 cents.... Get the one with the biggest tubing and best cone. This will get you the most air.

hmm..........