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PBlack09 02-25-2015 09:46 PM

Why did you rebadge?
 
I've seen countless threads where people rebadge their 86s. I'm just wondering why YOU have rebadged or are thinking about doing it to yours.

EDIT: Sorry, just realized I should've left an option to see about how many do/don't rebadge.

Bergen23 02-25-2015 09:49 PM

I prefer the look of the Toyota badge, in the warmer weather the scion badges will get dumped for Toyota Badges and a TRD badge will replace the FR-S badge

sb 02-25-2015 09:56 PM

I swapped to the Toyota badge because it is symmetrical so it looks more appealing to me.

phrosty 02-25-2015 10:06 PM

Rebadged to Ford to look like an F-150.

Tcoat 02-25-2015 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrosty (Post 2147442)
Rebadged to Ford to look like an F-150.

?????
https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/cms/au...6-Pickup-2.jpg

Tcoat 02-25-2015 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBlack09 (Post 2147422)
EDIT: Sorry, just realized I should've left an option to see about how many do/don't rebadge.

That can always be part of "other"

1GiantTurtle 02-25-2015 10:40 PM

i like the look of the toyota badge more and my parents cant pronounce scion

"you bought a see-yon?"

As a Turtle that swims over seas quite often they don't know what a fr-s is :D

yUme 02-25-2015 10:48 PM

rebadged because theres no such thing as Scion. Where's the Scion factory?

extrashaky 02-25-2015 11:09 PM

I'd like to subtly change my "SUBARU" lettering to say "RUGARU" if I could find the matching letters.

swarb 02-25-2015 11:13 PM

I don't think I've ever seen anyone rebadge their brz. Maybe add sti' but never replace subaru.

Teseo 02-25-2015 11:30 PM

I want rebadge mine with Lexus so i can say its the underpowered version of the LFA

dem00n 02-26-2015 12:08 AM

I'm still looking for a used Subaru emblem for the rear trunk. I'd like to have Toyota up front and Subaru and the back. I always liked confusing people...

I don't want to pay $60 for an emblem. Though if i don't find one soon, I'll have to go ahead and buy it.

Tromatic 02-26-2015 12:10 AM

"Insecure" should be a choice as well.

hanabie 02-26-2015 01:00 AM

wrb and ppl know it's a brz. me debadged

Brndn704 02-26-2015 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2147600)
"Insecure" should be a choice as well.

Why are you so negative in every post homie?

Rocket Bunny
Stanced
and now Toyota vs Scion

Cheer up.

SquadRogue 02-26-2015 03:16 AM

I prefer to keep it at Scion,
In my opinion company emblems who are not the main company on the car emblem tend to have a better reputation.

For example Acura for Honda
Infiniti for Nissan
Lexus for Toyota

BMW owns: Mini and Rolls Royce.

Fiat owns: Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Ferrari, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Ram and SRT.

Ford Motor Company owns: Lincoln and a small stake in Mazda.

General Motors owns: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and GMC. GM owns a controlling interest in Opel and Vauxhall in Europe and Holden in Australia. (The U.S. Treasury Department is in the process of selling off the remaining GM stock holidngs.)

Honda owns: Acura.

Hyundai owns: Kia.

Tata Motors (India) owns: Jaguar and Land Rover.

Mazda mostly independently owned (Ford has small stake)

Mitsubishi is independently owned.

Daimler AG owns: Mercedes-Benz and Smart.

Nissan owns: Infiniti. (Nissan, in turn, is owned by Renault.)

Saab is owned by National Electric Vehicle Sweden (NEVS).

Subaru: Owned by Fuji Heavy Industries with Toyota a minority partner.

Tesla: Toyota is a minority partner. Partnership with Daimler AG.

Toyota Motor Company owns: Lexus, Scion, Daihatsu and Hino Motors, with a stake in Fuji Industries (Subaru's parent company) and Isuzu.

Volkswagen owns: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, and overseas-brands SEAT and Skoda.WELL NOT IN MOST CASES

Volvo is owned by Chinese-automaker Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, aka Geely.

sledheadguy 02-26-2015 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBlack09 (Post 2147422)
I've seen countless threads where people rebadge their 86s. I'm just wondering why YOU have rebadged or are thinking about doing it to yours.

EDIT: Sorry, just realized I should've left an option to see about how many do/don't rebadge.

my last toyota didnt have a badge.....1990 celica gts..... so my scion looks good just as it is. it is what it is

sledheadguy 02-26-2015 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquadRogue (Post 2147716)
I prefer to keep it at Scion,
In my opinion company emblems who are not the main company on the car emblem tend to have a better reputation.

For example Acura for Honda
Infiniti for Nissan
Lexus for Toyota

BMW owns: Mini and Rolls Royce.

Fiat owns: Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Ferrari, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Ram and SRT.

Ford Motor Company owns: Lincoln and a small stake in Mazda.

General Motors owns: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and GMC. GM owns a controlling interest in Opel and Vauxhall in Europe and Holden in Australia. (The U.S. Treasury Department is in the process of selling off the remaining GM stock holidngs.)

Honda owns: Acura.

Hyundai owns: Kia.

Tata Motors (India) owns: Jaguar and Land Rover.

Mazda mostly independently owned (Ford has small stake)

Mitsubishi is independently owned.

Daimler AG owns: Mercedes-Benz and Smart.

Nissan owns: Infiniti. (Nissan, in turn, is owned by Renault.)

Saab is owned by National Electric Vehicle Sweden (NEVS).

Subaru: Owned by Fuji Heavy Industries with Toyota a minority partner.

Tesla: Toyota is a minority partner. Partnership with Daimler AG.

Toyota Motor Company owns: Lexus, Scion, Daihatsu and Hino Motors, with a stake in Fuji Industries (Subaru's parent company) and Isuzu.

Volkswagen owns: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, and overseas-brands SEAT and Skoda.WELL NOT IN MOST CASES

Volvo is owned by Chinese-automaker Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, aka Geely.

very well put.....once I read your post.....it all comes together ..lol

Tcoat 02-26-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brndn704 (Post 2147685)
Why are you so negative in every post homie?

Rocket Bunny
Stanced
and now Toyota vs Scion

Cheer up.

(Please do not read with an angry tone in your head but as some simple questions)
We aren't allowed to have opposing view points?
We should all smile and nod even if we don't like something?
Should all the threads consist of "I did XXX to my car" followed by 200 replies of "good work"?


I agree with Tron on this completely. There is a stigma attached to Scion in some areas (for right or wrong reasons) and some people just like to fool themselves.
As I have said a dozen times before in the "Badge Change" threads. You are not fooling anybody by changing to Toyota badges. The people who know the cars already know what it is and the people who don't just don't care.
Having said all that I personally could care less what badges are on any car and you can badge them as a Porsche or a Ugo if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Tcoat 02-26-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquadRogue (Post 2147716)
I prefer to keep it at Scion,
In my opinion company emblems who are not the main company on the car emblem tend to have a better reputation.

.

Well done Squady! You beat me to it (and I was only going to ask if all Challengers and Chargers are getting rebadged as Fiats).


I have to ask though. Is this step 3 in you psychology paper?

BlackMonarch 02-26-2015 08:24 AM

When I started tearing in to the car, and everything said "Subaru" down to the monograms on the VIN sticker, I decided the car definitely wasn't a Scion. Maybe a Toyota, but not a Scion.

Also, the Scion brand name has never meant anything to me, other than tacky cheapo F&F wannabe cars. So now it's a Subaru.

axelo 02-26-2015 08:24 AM

Scion is the young sporty son of toyota jajajaja...

BlackMonarch 02-26-2015 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquadRogue (Post 2147716)
I prefer to keep it at Scion,
In my opinion company emblems who are not the main company on the car emblem tend to have a better reputation.

For example Acura for Honda
Infiniti for Nissan
Lexus for Toyota

BMW owns: Mini and Rolls Royce.

Fiat owns: Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Ferrari, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Ram and SRT.

Ford Motor Company owns: Lincoln and a small stake in Mazda.

General Motors owns: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and GMC. GM owns a controlling interest in Opel and Vauxhall in Europe and Holden in Australia. (The U.S. Treasury Department is in the process of selling off the remaining GM stock holidngs.)

Honda owns: Acura.

Hyundai owns: Kia.

Tata Motors (India) owns: Jaguar and Land Rover.

Mazda mostly independently owned (Ford has small stake)

Mitsubishi is independently owned.

Daimler AG owns: Mercedes-Benz and Smart.

Nissan owns: Infiniti. (Nissan, in turn, is owned by Renault.)

Saab is owned by National Electric Vehicle Sweden (NEVS).

Subaru: Owned by Fuji Heavy Industries with Toyota a minority partner.

Tesla: Toyota is a minority partner. Partnership with Daimler AG.

Toyota Motor Company owns: Lexus, Scion, Daihatsu and Hino Motors, with a stake in Fuji Industries (Subaru's parent company) and Isuzu.

Volkswagen owns: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, and overseas-brands SEAT and Skoda.WELL NOT IN MOST CASES

Volvo is owned by Chinese-automaker Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, aka Geely.

The part about Mitsubishi is interesting here because; much like FHI which has Subaru as the automotive division, both companies produce a huge variety of...well, things. For example, I have a Mitsubishi A\C unit and television, and an FHI forklift at work.

Alq 02-26-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1GiantTurtle (Post 2147485)
i like the look of the toyota badge more and my parents cant pronounce scion

"you bought a see-yon?"

As a Turtle that swims over seas quite often they don't know what a fr-s is :D

My parents said the same thing, so I bought a BRZ instead :lol:

They pronounce it "ski-on", as in you "ski on" the hill...

Tcoat 02-26-2015 09:31 AM

Why are the Subaru guys not rebadging to this?
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...76f_d60000.png

Tcoat 02-26-2015 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMonarch (Post 2147836)
The part about Mitsubishi is interesting here because; much like FHI which has Subaru as the automotive division, both companies produce a huge variety of...well, things. For example, I have a Mitsubishi A\C unit and television, and an FHI forklift at work.

And their products didn't have the greatest first introduction to the U.S. of any company in history!
http://www.britmodeller.com/reviews/...osphboxtop.jpg

Jrryjms07 02-26-2015 09:45 AM

I'm thinking of gong with Toyota emblems, Subaru wheel caps and leave the FRS badge on the trunk. That way I cover all 3. Lol

MikeM7 02-26-2015 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquadRogue (Post 2147716)
I prefer to keep it at Scion,
In my opinion company emblems who are not the main company on the car emblem tend to have a better reputation.

So you think Scion has a better reputation than Toyota? First time I've ever heard that in my life...

I got the BRZ just so that I wouldn't have to own a Scion. No offense intended to FRS owners, I've just never liked the Scion brand and never felt they had a good reputation.

Brndn704 02-26-2015 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2147823)
(Please do not read with an angry tone in your head but as some simple questions)
We aren't allowed to have opposing view points?
We should all smile and nod even if we don't like something?
Should all the threads consist of "I did XXX to my car" followed by 200 replies of "good work"?


I agree with Tron on this completely. There is a stigma attached to Scion in some areas (for right or wrong reasons) and some people just like to fool themselves.
As I have said a dozen times before in the "Badge Change" threads. You are not fooling anybody by changing to Toyota badges. The people who know the cars already know what it is and the people who don't just don't care.
Having said all that I personally could care less what badges are on any car and you can badge them as a Porsche or a Ugo if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Oh no, we can have opposing views. There is a right way, and a wrong way. Disagreeing and giving an actual reason why you don't like it is one thing. Calling Rocket Bunny "Rocket Bozo" and anyone that likes it "retarded", calling stance "retarded" and anyone who likes it "retarded" etc. But hey, who am I to tell someone how to act, it's not my fault he wasn't raised properly.

Tcoat 02-26-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brndn704 (Post 2147933)
Oh no, we can have opposing views. There is a right way, and a wrong way. Disagreeing and giving an actual reason why you don't like it is one thing. Calling Rocket Bunny "Rocket Bozo" and anyone that likes it "retarded", calling stance "retarded" and anyone who likes it "retarded" etc. But hey, who am I to tell someone how to act, it's not my fault he wasn't raised properly.

You just sort of get used to Tron! He isn't that bad really.

Dadhawk 02-26-2015 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2147447)

I would so love to have that. Needs rear facing seats in the back though, ala 70's Subaru Brat.

Tcoat 02-26-2015 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2147943)
I would so love to have that. Needs rear facing seats in the back though, ala 70's Subaru Brat.

Ya me too! Would ruin much of the handling and would be the least practical "truck" ever but would be a blast all the same.

MikeM7 02-26-2015 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brndn704 (Post 2147933)
Oh no, we can have opposing views. There is a right way, and a wrong way. Disagreeing and giving an actual reason why you don't like it is one thing. Calling Rocket Bunny "Rocket Bozo" and anyone that likes it "retarded", calling stance "retarded" and anyone who likes it "retarded" etc. But hey, who am I to tell someone how to act, it's not my fault he wasn't raised properly.

People who think wheels are supposed to be put on sideways weren't raised properly

:bellyroll:

Brndn704 02-26-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeM7 (Post 2147970)
People who think wheels are supposed to be put on sideways weren't raised properly

:bellyroll:

uhm, what? Put on sideways? The fuck does that even mean?

shifter907 02-26-2015 11:50 AM

To me, rebadging from Scion to Toyota is like the kids that rebadge from Acura to Honda because JDM, yo.

CAMBAM_6 02-26-2015 11:53 AM

I rebadged because the Toyota emblems are much cleaner (IMO) then the dull Scion badges which look extra cheap btw, also I am a fan of the Toyota 86 and would like my car to look more like it even though I fully understand that it is really a Scion. It has nothing to do with embarrassment, hate or whatever of the Scion brand. Its actually kind of cool if you think about it, that USA has a version of the twins that other countries do not have, but I do wish we had the option of the actual Toyota 86 version and also different trims like Japan offers.

*after rebadging to Toyota people stopped asking me "what kind of car is that?", so I have come to the conclusion that it makes more sense lol

Ddreder 02-26-2015 12:07 PM

I rebadged all of my outside badges. I even got the toyota dealership to replace my toyota badge when they had to repaint my front bumper lol

Also the reason I rebadged..

Scion = Scum of the earth.

Scion = The reason my resale value will always be shit

Scion = The reason I cringe everytime I have to say what brand my car is because I already know how most people will respond.

Scion should not exist and they are doing absolutely nothing for anyone. Just a cheap knock off brand that gets scoffed at every day. Death to scion! :mad0260:

Tcoat 02-26-2015 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddreder (Post 2147992)
I rebadged all of my outside badges. I even got the toyota dealership to replace my toyota badge when they had to repaint my front bumper lol

Also the reason I rebadged..

Scion = Scum of the earth.

Scion = The reason my resale value will always be shit

Scion = The reason I cringe everytime I have to say what brand my car is because I already know how most people will respond.

Scion should not exist and they are doing absolutely nothing for anyone. Just a cheap knock off brand that gets scoffed at every day. Death to scion! :mad0260:

I have been waiting patiently for your post on this topic (after seeing prior ones on the subject) and must say you didn't disappoint!

Scion around here is rare and considered "exotic" by the general public (not talking about "car guys").

Mr.Impreza 02-26-2015 12:18 PM

I haven't re badged mine yet because of the cost of the emblems. I did however remove the FRS badge.

Main reason I will re badge is because i always call it a Toyota, but more or else because of the culture behind this car and the 86 name. Initial D, drifting, keiichi tsuchiya, japanese culture etc....Scion doesn't represent any of that to me.

Ddreder 02-26-2015 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2148000)
I have been waiting patiently for your post on this topic (after seeing prior ones on the subject) and must say you didn't disappoint!

Scion around here is rare and considered "exotic" by the general public (not talking about "car guys").

Way to make me feel bad.. :(

Idk I have met many many many scion owners (not frs owners) and it is mostly older people that think they look neat. Which to some extent they can. I just wish toyota would stick to there guns and release an amazing car under there own name that isnt a tacoma or a 4runner.. Around here that is all people care about. Although if it was badged toyota then it would have been just as expensive as a BRZ and then I might not have been able to afford one. There are good and bad things about both sides.


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