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gravitylover 02-24-2015 03:15 AM
Other twins
 
So we call our cars twins but they really could be called triplets, BRZ/FRS/GT86. Over the recent past automotive history what others have been produced? I'm talking about trim differences, maybe some interior or even body panels are different but not as extreme as platform sharing creating essentially different cars like Cutlass/Grand Prix/Monte Carlo/Skylark/Chevelle.

Honda Passport/Isuzu Rodeo, Chevy Suburban/GMC Yukon XL/Caddy Escalade EXT, Subaru WRX/Saab 9.2X, Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky.

There have to be more...

Archavious 02-24-2015 07:34 AM
Dodge Stealth/Mitsubishi GTO

loading_please_wait 02-24-2015 07:37 AM
Eagle Talon / Mitsubishi Eclipse

Foobar 02-24-2015 08:31 AM
Mitsu Mirage/Dodge Colt
GMC Envoy/Chevy Trailblazer
Pontiac Transport/Olds Silhouette

Add Plymouth Laser to the DSM set.

If we include cross regional twins, a bunch can be included, but I suspect that's not what you had in mind as those are basically the same car branded for its own domestic market.

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Takumi788 02-24-2015 08:39 AM
Ford Probe/Mazda Mx6/Mazda 626

Tcoat 02-24-2015 10:40 AM
Just about every Chev, Pontiac, Olds and Buick made between 1950 and when they stopped making each model line.

Same for Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth.

And Ford and Merc!

pinski 02-24-2015 10:57 AM
Toyota Matrix / Pontiac Vibe
Isuzu Rodeo / Honda Passport
Isuzu Trooper / Acura SLX
Honda Odyssey / Isuzu Oasis
Chrysler T&C / Dodge Caravan / Plymouth Voyager / VW Routan
Ford Mustang / Mercury Capri / Mercury Cougar
Ford Thunderbird / Mercury Cougar
Chevy Camaro / Pontiac Firebird

Lots of twins and triplets over the years!

Rampage 02-24-2015 10:58 AM
Camaro/Firebird
Cavalier/Sunfire
Geo Prism/Toyota Corolla
Geo Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick


Lots of them.

tahdizzle 02-24-2015 11:54 AM
Chrysler Conquest/Mitsubishi Starion (would love to own either by the way)

f0rge 02-24-2015 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by loading_please_wait (Post 2145043)
Eagle Talon / Mitsubishi Eclipse
Technically triplets, you forgot the Plymouth Laser

Koa 02-24-2015 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2144983)
So we call our cars twins but they really could be called triplets, BRZ/FRS/GT86. Over the recent past automotive history what others have been produced? I'm talking about trim differences, maybe some interior or even body panels are different but not as extreme as platform sharing creating essentially different cars like Cutlass/Grand Prix/Monte Carlo/Skylark/Chevelle.

Honda Passport/Isuzu Rodeo, Chevy Suburban/GMC Yukon XL/Caddy Escalade EXT, Subaru WRX/Saab 9.2X, Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky.

There have to be more...
kinda splitting hairs here, but the wrx/saab 9.2x wasn't a true twin. Huge differences in shell and trim. The only shared was the drivetrain (and chassis?)

tahdizzle 02-24-2015 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2145272)
kinda splitting hairs here, but the wrx/saab 9.2x wasn't a true twin. Huge differences in shell and trim. The only shared was the drivetrain (and chassis?)
I think you're correct. Just a Rex with different sheet metal.

bcj 02-24-2015 01:19 PM
Mazda B trucks and Ford Ranger
All the USDM makers re-badging small imports in the 70s and 80s

That's what happened to Detroit.
No, we don't want to make sensible cars here to keep the country going.
We build pig barges! Always have, and always will!

tahdizzle 02-24-2015 01:22 PM
Don't forget ALL of the australian versions of Ford/Chevy cars.

Tcoat 02-24-2015 01:28 PM
Hell we can go hog wild and do Canadian versions as well!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...an_Invader.jpg


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...48939fbcf8.jpg

hmong337 02-24-2015 01:47 PM
Cool thread.

Having only known these cars in Gran Turismo games...

Vauxhaul vx220 and Opel Speedster.

Kaotic Lazagna 02-24-2015 04:16 PM
Chevy Cavalier and......Toyota Cavalier. LOL

Kaotic Lazagna 02-24-2015 04:18 PM
Toyota Yaris and Toyota/Netz Vitz
Chrysler Town and Country, and Dodge Caravan
Ford Crown Vic and Mercury Maurader

Saturn Astra and Opel Astra.
Isuzu Rodeo and Honda Passport
Isuzu Oasis and Honda Odyssey

Dave-ROR 02-24-2015 04:27 PM
American owned.. and now Italian owned Chrysler are the kings of badge engineering. Making a complete list of "twins" would take some time.

strat61caster 02-24-2015 04:29 PM
Chevy Nova/Toyota Corolla/Toyota Sprinter/Geo Prizm

Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebadging"]Rebadging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

NWFRS 02-24-2015 05:57 PM
Saturn Sky....Pontiac Solstice.

I wanted so badly to like those two...but I just couldn't go there...might as well buy a Chrysler Crossfire. :-/

Kaotic Lazagna 02-24-2015 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 2145726)
Saturn Sky....Pontiac Solstice.

I wanted so badly to like those two...but I just couldn't go there...might as well buy a Chrysler Crossfire. :-/
Wasn't the Crossfire a twin of some MB?

tahdizzle 02-24-2015 06:39 PM
I don't think cars sold as XXXX in the states vs. XXXX in somewhere else qualifies as a "twin".

I wouldn't say an Acura RSX and a Honda Integra are "twins".

Tcoat 02-24-2015 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2145791)
I don't think cars sold as XXXX in the states vs. XXXX in somewhere else qualifies as a "twin".

I wouldn't say an Acura RSX and a Honda Integra are "twins".
I would agree but... many of those cars have different trim, bumpers and other features. By ruling them out we would also have to rule out our "twins" as the differences between them are probably even less then some of the regional changes.

tahdizzle 02-24-2015 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2145899)
I would agree but... many of those cars have different trim, bumpers and other features. By ruling them out we would also have to rule out our "twins" as the differences between them are probably even less then some of the regional changes.

I am not dis-allowing them because of cosmetic reasons.

Acura is a honda, honda is an acura. Which is why I don't consider our cars "triplets".

What ever you want to call them, scion/lexus, they're all toyotas.

Subaru =/= toyota.

NWFRS 02-24-2015 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 2145727)
Wasn't the Crossfire a twin of some MB?
Maybe.

All three strike me as hairdresser's cars.

Not sure why, and maybe I'm being unfair. I've never DRIVEN any of them.

Unlike a Miata, they just seem more pretty than capable. :-/

Tcoat 02-24-2015 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2145912)
I am not dis-allowing them because of cosmetic reasons.

Acura is a honda, honda is an acura. Which is why I don't consider our cars "triplets".

What ever you want to call them, scion/lexus, they're all toyotas.

Subaru =/= toyota.
By that criteria there are no twins at all then. The 86 platform is neither Toyota nor Subaru so going by badging the 86 platform is not a "twin" or "triplet" either but an only child with identity issues.


http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/50363358.jpg

Tcoat 02-24-2015 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 2145916)
Maybe.

All three strike me as hairdresser's cars.

Not sure why, and maybe I'm being unfair. I've never DRIVEN any of them.

Unlike a Miata, they just seem more pretty than capable. :-/
Drove a Crossfire (or tried to while it was still running) and a Solstice and believe me no self respecting hairdresser would touch one.
Liked the looks of both but oh what pigs they were to drive.

tahdizzle 02-24-2015 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2145942)

Get a haircut, HIPPY!

Tcoat 02-24-2015 08:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2145952)
Get a haircut, HIPPY!
That's not me that's the poor confused 86!

Vracer111 02-24-2015 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 2145727)
Wasn't the Crossfire a twin of some MB?
It's a redone SLK320....

Ultramaroon 02-24-2015 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2145627)
the kings of badge engineering.
I'm taking it. Badgineering®

Tcoat 02-24-2015 10:28 PM
Just be carful how you spell it in the Trademark app.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-con...ney-badger.jpg

gravitylover 02-24-2015 10:34 PM
Turned into a cool thread. There were so many that I had forgotten about but a lot of the ones mentioned so far are more platform sharing vehicles (like I said in the op, GM blah) than true twins.

I like the Starion/Conquest though, they were so similar and I had nearly forgotten about them. I wanted a Starion Turbo so bad. My best friends mom had one that we used to cruise in all the time, fcker would never let me drive it though. Same with the 3000GT/Stealth, they were cool.

Ultramaroon 02-24-2015 10:43 PM
I went through a period where I wanted a 3000GT something fierce.

Poodles 02-25-2015 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2145947)
Drove a Crossfire (or tried to while it was still running) and a Solstice and believe me no self respecting hairdresser would touch one.
Liked the looks of both but oh what pigs they were to drive.


The base models of those cars are all pretty crap. The uprated versions though are tiny terrors.


If I can find it, I'll link the huge graph that shows who owns who in the car world. It explains 99% of the existence of "twins."


Oh, but here's a real fun one... MKII Supra and Lotus Excel

Black Tire 02-25-2015 02:04 AM
Wow! How could you forget these two legendary cars:

Dodge Aries K / Plymouth Reliant K

reni 02-25-2015 02:30 AM
Bentley Continental / Chrysler 300
Mazda RX-7 FD3S / Chevrolet Corvette C5

rucfj159 02-25-2015 12:28 PM
What about the 98-02 Toyota corolla/chevy prism, 90's Honda passport/ Isuzu rodeo, the ford tempo/mercury topaz, Mitsubishi raider/dodge dakota

Tcoat 02-25-2015 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Tire (Post 2146299)
Wow! How could you forget these two legendary cars:

Dodge Aries K / Plymouth Reliant K
Triplets! Chrysler LeBaron


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