Possible Cricket Fix... no promises
 

So, I was sitting on my couch watching Empire. Got a phone call. It was Frank from Sunset Subaru in Sarasota Florida. He told me that he just got an email about a possible cricket fix for the BRZ. It requires more than just replacing the fuel pump (which I am on #3). I am bringing it Monday. He said that they will use my car as a test platform to see if it works, and if it does, release a TSB for a permanent fix. No this is not a troll. No I cannot guarantee that this will work. All I can say is what I was told by the service manager. Ill keep you all posted.


Tim

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What crickets?

Dude, April Fool's is two months away. Stop :P

I heard about this...

You go in, they tell you how great your car is, and that they can get you into a new/different car for what you're paying now!

Once you trade in the frs for another car, no more crickets!

Why would anyone risk them changing more parts on a car for something so...small?

I'd be more afraid of them fucking up something. The less your car is in the hands of a mechanic, the safer it is.

I bet they'll throw in free car scratches!

...I mean car wash!

so your service manager is smarter than the hundreds of engineers at toyota and subaru and maybe the manufacturer of the fuel pump? GOOD LUCK I hope he is.

I've never experienced the crickets, but I'm always hearing about these bugs. I think it's because the spiders where I live are pigs. Not sure. Either way, glad I don't have them! :D

Wrap the fuel pump in sound deadener

Sarcastic pricks like you are what makes people NOT want to post anything. Did I say that the service manager was smarter than anyone? NO. I said he got an email from their corporate office suggesting a possible fix. Gee. Seriously. People are such douche bags when they can hide behind their keyboard.

I already had that done at a Toyota dealership. Engineers from both Toyota and Subaru flew in and had an entire foam part fabricated to fit the pump and go around the lines. It doesn't help so I removed it and gave up on the issue as a whole. They had my car for 3 days total.

Interested to see what happens @FloridaBRZ. Good luck. Toyota was using my car as the "test subject" for the foam insulation and it failed.

K. For anyone that cares or doesn't want to make a snarky comment....
Brought my car in today to have the fix done. Before she went under the knife, I found out what they were planning on doing. I know the cricket sound comes from the plunger sticking. Apparently Subaru installed a new HPFP and a new plate. The plunger rests on this plate and its supposed to help. Also, they replaced the left side valve cover with something bigger to help insulate any sound. This is what I was told by my service manager. Do I think he is smarter than a Subaru or Toyota engineer? NO. I am merely sharing my experience. He asked me to call him if the crickets didn't return after 1k miles.


I will keep everyone posted.

Thanks for trying. Don't get perturbed so easily. Everyone above my post was doing the same thing and you decide to get upset over my post? RELAX. I really do hope the fix does work. But its been 2 years and hundreds of fuel pumps have been replaced. I don't want to hold my breath over another possible "fix". All the fixes so far have been band-aids and it always comes back, while some have been lucky and have no problems.

The Fix is moving to Europe :D our fuel doesn't make our fuel pump chirp unless you go to the UK than they will appear ^^ I really hope this fix solves the problem for the people in the US/UK though.

I know nobody believes me... but my crickets were fixed several months ago. South Coast Toyota recognized my chirping when taking the baby in for routine service. When we were chatting about it, I mentioned that I've read about newer gen pumps not fixing the issue. He told me that they just had a third revision pump come into stock and that it should work.

It DID work. Even with e10 91 octane. No chirping in summer or winter.

What was the date on the TSB? If it's October 2013, it's still a bad pump. I even have a picture somewhere with the part number when I got it done. Mine's chirping like hell right now with the 75-80 degree temps we've had the past two days.

I got it replaced sometime around Oct 2014 actually. The service coordinator gave me the impression that they just received this new revision.

There will be a new TSB released soon for the crickets. Lady at the Subaru Dealership said its official from SOA, just doesn't know when it will be released. She did say it would not be worth it to replace my fuel pump now though so it should be coming down the pipeline soon.

how many miles do you have on the new pump? is there a part number or anything on the invoice to help us find out if it is indeed a new revised pump? my crickets didn't show up until 3,500 miles or so.

Guess I'll be waiting for springtime for it to warm up enough that my crickets come back. The good news about this is by then, we should have a better idea if this is a good fix or not.

It does seem heartening that Toyobaru is still trying to fix this issue.

I'll keep on eye on this thread. Here's to hoping yet again. I just got completely let down in Oct. 2013 to the point of saying, screw it. I think the newer pump is worse than my original they replaced after listening to both videos separately.

Each time its something new that they are trying. One of these times, it will work. Stories like yours, however, make me glad that I didn't jump on the "replace the pump" bandwagon years ago.

Yeah, I sacrificed my car for a Corolla for 3 days (Which wasn't bad, I actually like the Corolla for it's purpose, but it's no FR-S) for them to do an absurd insulation. It looked like a production piece and was designed to go around the fuel lines and wrapped tightly around the fuel pump and covered a big amount of it.

Didn't even really muffle the sound after a day or so. Once I heard it chirp loud, I just removed it because if anything, it was keeping heat in. Good effort, but no followup on, "Hey, how's it working?"

Mine too. I'm guessing winter blend fuel + warmer temps exacerbates the problem.


I usually can't hear unless I have the window down, now I can hear it in the car with the windows up.


('15 BRZ with 3100 miles, crickets showed up about 400.)

I honestly think is is just an inherent design flaw. Even the 2015's still.chirp.

Hmm it's been a while. I will have to dig up my service record to see what mileage it was installed at and if it lists the part#. I can grab that soon

Finally got a straight answer from a different service manager. They are currently testing a new design of the fuel pump, and it should be released by the end of next month. In the meantime, I have my 4th fuel pump getting installed this weekend =P

pump was installed 7/17/2014 @ 17500 miles. I have 25000 miles now, so it has been 7500 since I've heard crickets.

PIPE AY-FUEL DLVY
SU003-00342

PMP AY-FUEL
SU003-05176

GSKT-FUEL PIPE
SU003-00347

I think there is a pretty costly solution to this...you might need a turbo and larger injectors and a different pump...but I'm not sure.


:lol:

No one is making aftermarket HPFP's, just the in tank low pressure pumps. The HP pump is for the direct injection side, the in tank feeds both the port injectors and the base pressure for the DI.

Maybe they should...

For real. I had mine replaced about a month ago. No noise yet ~ 2k miles later.

I don't see anyone being ready to pay that cost to possibly stop a slight noise...

This is for a different engine (VW/Audi 2.0T), but I would imagine the price would be comparable:

http://store.034motorsport.com/apr-2...fuel-pump.html

That's around the price on parts that my work order showed back in October 2013. It was a little bit over $1000. Not exactly a cheap part.

I had my fuel pump replaced over 3k miles ago and have not had crickets since. I'm going to switch over to E85 soon and will report if I have any issues. But I've been on California grade 91 oct. from a myriad of different gas stations with no issues since replacement.

I can't hear my crickets over my exhasut unless I'm standing there looking at the engine with the hood open. :D

so E85 helps, but for those who dont have it and only have access to race gas would it do the same, because of the octane or is it ethanol specific?

tell us what you honestly feel :)

I don't understand why people feel the need to say "truly.." or "honestly.." before a statement. We're going to assume you aren't lying

but on topic.. +1 the flaw is of the design, not an error in manufacturing process. Those with "new" HPFPs sans everything else are likely to not solve the problem. Some people swear their new pumps have solved the problem. Time will tell

E85 made my crickets much worse. Just sayin'.

I wonder if this is considered under the powertrain warranty. 3 year bumper-to-bumper is just about up!