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Kkobe2 01-28-2015 11:06 AM

Police encounters
 
I used the search and couldn't find anything similar to this, so please let me know if I am mistaken because search always gives me troubles when being specific.

Anyway, I'm curious how the police treat you guys when seeing your car. Do you get pulled over often and if so do they give warnings or usually just jump to tickets because they see a "racecar"? I've personally been pulled over once just for driving the car, doing 32 in a 30 and the cop Tried to get me with some bullshit about needing to slow down but danced around the question when I asked what he clocked me at. The only other time I was extremely fortunate to have a nice cop, on Christmas night I made a left lane pass on an unmarked car going north of 100mph in a 55mph zone and right when I got on his left side the cherries lit up and I was ready to say goodbye to my drivers licsense but he just told me to slow down and enjoy my night when he walked up, no give me your license and registration or anything. Post your interesting encounters with the law!

funwheeldrive 01-28-2015 11:08 AM

I haven't been pulled over yet (knock on wood). I think it helps that the stock car is so quiet and doesn't have any big wings or hood scoops. The car looks fast, but it doesn't scream boy racer like a WRX or Mazdaspeed3.

Jonsey 01-28-2015 11:20 AM

I got pulled over by a state trooper when rolling through a stop sign early one morning. He asked what I was doing and I told him I was headed to the track (we were basically across the street from it). He laughed and said "Isn't that car really slow." I laughed back and said "Yes sir, but only in a straight line. It will surprise a lot of cars in the corners." He chuckled and handed me a warning and let me go. First time I have ever gotten a warning from a state trooper.

Shady195 01-28-2015 11:30 AM

I've only been pulled over once in my FR-S. Cop pulled a uTurn in the middle of the night. Asked me if I knew why he stopped me, said if I had to guess sir probably my lack of front plate. He asked me why I did not have one, I said sir do you see any place to mount it without drilling into the bumper. He said nope, would not want to do that to a nice looking car like this myself and let me go without a warning or anything. Think he just wanted to check the car out.

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 01-28-2015 11:32 AM

Had a warning issued to me for not having front plates.

Mr.Impreza 01-28-2015 11:50 AM

It's not the cops or car...it's the driver.

This is what my Subaru look like and I have never been pulled over for 6 years of owning it because i drive the speed limit and don't show off.

Anyways, that's just my opinion. I just remember when I was 17 everyone would tell me I would have cops up my ass for driving a Subaru....nope :)

http://s13.postimg.org/evdxhhtav/dfhdfhdh.jpg

extrashaky 01-28-2015 12:01 PM

I had a lying sack of shit Texas state trooper pull me over and claim I was going 85 in a 75, when I couldn't have been because I was behind a car that was doing 71. When I challenged him and said that he couldn't possibly have clocked me, he said, "You were in a group doing 85. I clocked the whole group." The only reason that piece of garbage pulled me over was that he needed to meet his quota and saw a red sports car.

Prior to getting this car, I was driving a Jeep Cherokee that was almost invisible to cops. Since getting the BRZ, I get a lot more negative attention. I've had roided up ex-military type cops pull out behind me and tailgate me aggressively, trying to provoke a response. I've had them hit me with instant-on radar and laser much more often than that ever happened in the Jeep. A few weeks ago I was driving down a rural road 5 miles under the speed limit (because the road was fucking terrible), and fucking Roscoe P. Coltrane coming the other direction nearly ran himself off the road fumbling to get his handheld radar gun out and shoot me with it through his windshield. Out on the highway I had a douchebag hit me with laser, look at the reading and then hit me again with it because he couldn't believe that I was going exactly the speed limit.

Cops boo hoo about how people hate them. Gee. Wonder why. You treat the public like shit, people are not going to enjoy your company.

austin_kw 01-28-2015 12:04 PM

Got yanked last night. I was behind a lady in a minivan doing 20 under the speed limit. I got real pissed off, downshifted to fourth gear and peeled as soon as the opportunity presented itself. I failed to realize the car behind me was an OPP ghost car. She pulled me over but was unable to prove my speed so she let me off with a warning. Truthfully I was doing more than 50 over the limit, which is grounds for license suspension, roadside car seizure and up to $10k in fines here in Ontario.


Stupid decisions.

Brndn704 01-28-2015 12:09 PM

I threw sparks on a highway coming home from work one night when I hit a dip and a state trooper was behind me. Needless to say I got a ticket for being too low. Next day, I lowered the car another qtr inch. oops.

Tcoat 01-28-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by austin_kw (Post 2108629)
Got yanked last night. I was behind a lady in a minivan doing 20 under the speed limit. I got real pissed off, downshifted to fourth gear and peeled as soon as the opportunity presented itself. I failed to realize the car behind me was an OPP ghost car. She pulled me over but was unable to prove my speed so she let me off with a warning. Truthfully I was doing more than 50 over the limit, which is grounds for license suspension, roadside car seizure and up to $10k in fines here in Ontario.


Stupid decisions.

Ya those ghost cars are getting harder to spot all the time!
Opp have Mustangs, Camaros, Chargers and by Tilbury a beat to crap at least 15 year old Buick.
I miss the days when you saw Crown Vic or Impala headlights and knew exactly what it was!!!!!

The206 01-28-2015 12:13 PM

Just got pulled over down near the border in San Diego. Had just gotten onto the freeway and was trying to separate myself from some of the traffic. Sped up to about 80 for a few seconds and got lit up. Cop was pretty cool and let me off with a warning, but it was probably because I'm military and I doubt he had clocked me.

austin_kw 01-28-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2108644)
Ya those ghost cars are getting harder to spot all the time!
Opp have Mustangs, Camaros, Chargers and by Tilbury a beat to crap at least 15 year old Buick.
I miss the days when you saw Crown Vic or Impala headlights and knew exactly what it was!!!!!



I was just on my way into Hyde Park on Highway 22 right after the West Haven Golf Course. She was driving one of the new blacked out Ford Taurus'. Took me by surprise. As soon as I pulled back in I saw the cherries flip on behind me and I just about pissed my pants. On the bright side, it was two female officers... and neither of them were not difficult to look at.

I notice even London Police are using unmarked Dodge Rams. I see guys pulled over on Richmond alllll the time.

FRSNewb 01-28-2015 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2108644)
Ya those ghost cars are getting harder to spot all the time!
Opp have Mustangs, Camaros, Chargers and by Tilbury a beat to crap at least 15 year old Buick.
I miss the days when you saw Crown Vic or Impala headlights and knew exactly what it was!!!!!



Cops here in SSM have been seen using a Pontiac Vibe and an old 90s Grand Caravan; I got pulled over by the Vibe a few years ago (got off on a warning speeding 80 in a 50) and saw the Grand Caravan having pulled over someone else..

Kryptik319 01-28-2015 12:42 PM

A week or two back I got pulled over doing 10 over. At first I thought the guy was a real **** because I was following traffic (there were at least three cars in front of me and I wasn't gaining on them.) So he walks up to my car and the first thing he says is "I've never seen one of these around here. Oh, only 9000 miles on it!?" We then proceeded to have a 15 minute conversation about the car, then he sent me on my way, no license check or anything. I'm completely convinced he just wanted to get a closer look at my car haha.

Tcoat 01-28-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSNewb (Post 2108712)
Cops here in SSM have been seen using a Pontiac Vibe and an old 90s Grand Caravan; I got pulled over by the Vibe a few years ago and saw the Grand Caravan having pulled over someone else..

For many, many years the OPP up by Woodstock had an old rotted out 71 Dodge Dart. They would sit on the side of the highway and tag you with the radar for a marked cruiser to pull over around a blind curve or just after an overpass. I slowed down every time I saw a green Dart for years even after it disappeared.

Tcoat 01-28-2015 01:05 PM

For your further reading pleasure.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14971

Akari 01-28-2015 01:11 PM

It really is your driving style that will either get you pulled over or let you blend in. Smooth lane changes, keeping right when you can and common road courtesy go a long way.

I drove a 05 STi for many years and my BRZ for almost two now without ever being pulled over. Upwards of 300 miles a week(mostly all speeding) with 0 issues.

extrashaky 01-28-2015 01:29 PM

On a tangent:

With all my driving, I see a lot of people pulled over. One thing I've noticed around here (not twins specific) is that the state troopers in Louisiana have started making people get out of their cars and stand between the back of the driver's car and the front of the trooper's car while they deal with the ticket. I don't know if it's to avoid being captured on video from cameras mounted inside drivers' cars, or if it's just to capture the incident on the cop's own dash cam, but that is extremely dangerous.

Back when I shot news video in Florida, a trooper down there lost both his legs when a lookie-loo ran off the road and smashed right into the back of his cruiser, pinning him between his cruiser and the car he had stopped. After that, the state put out the word that it was unsafe to stand in that zone, and the cops started lecturing us news photogs about it as well when we were out on news scenes on the highway. The flashing lights are like a flame to a moth, and you can go on YouTube and find video after video of cop cars getting smashed by other drivers who run right into the traffic stop.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpeiMw0Y9KY"]Police Cruiser Gets Rear Ended By Texting Driver - YouTube[/ame]

I don't know if this Louisiana thing is just stupidity or lack of awareness or what, but I think if one of them tells me to stand in that crush zone, I'm going to politely decline. I'll stand on the passenger side of my vehicle facing traffic, but not where I'll lose my legs.

extrashaky 01-28-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Akari (Post 2108786)
It really is your driving style that will either get you pulled over or let you blend in.

Wrong. When you drive a red sports car, you will never "blend in." I drive no faster in the BRZ than I do in the Jeep, yet I see a huge difference in the number of cops messing with me even when I'm just driving down the interstate on cruise control.

headlikeahole 01-28-2015 01:39 PM

Well I'm a cop, but I can only speak for myself (and maybe the guys I work with) when I say that we don't pay special attention to specific makes, models, or types of vehicle. I am just as likely to pull over a minivan as I am a sports car and I know most of my partners feel the same way.

Odds are if you feel like the police are targeting you, its probably your fault not the car.

** Also most cops don't enjoy writting tickets and will avoid it if they can, so if you get a ticket every time you get pulled over, youre probably being an ass. Just roll your windows down, turn on your dome light (if its at night), be polite and you'll probably just get a warning

Tcoat 01-28-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 2108832)
Well I'm a cop, but I can only speak for myself (and maybe the guys I work with) when I say that we don't pay special attention to specific makes, models, or types of vehicle. I am just as likely to pull over a minivan as I am a sports car and I know most of my partners feel the same way.

Odds are if you feel like the police are targeting you, its probably your fault not the car.

I have never felt "targeted" per se but have little doubt that at least some do a bit of profiling. I frequently have cruisers maneuver through traffic until they get behind me and then very obviously start playing with their computer. After a couple of minutes they always just take off and go around me.
Now, of course I don't "know" what they are actually doing but all appearances tell me they are checking my plates. When I as the owner come up as an "old" guy with zero tickets they leave me alone. I am not convinced that it would be the same story if young with a bunch of infractions. I also could be totally out to lunch and reading things into the events that are not really there.

On a related note, I have been pulled over probably 100 times or more over the course of my 40 years of driving. Many of those times they had me dead to rights in an obvious infraction that I readily admitted too. Yet, I have never received a ticket. I strongly believe in you get back what you give so manners, respect and candidness when addressing the officers have all served me well with the police over the years!

Tcoat 01-28-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 2108832)
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** Also most cops don't enjoy writting tickets and will avoid it if they can, so if you get a ticket every time you get pulled over, youre probably being an ass. Just roll your windows down, turn on your dome light (if its at night), be polite and you'll probably just get a warning

Ha Ha! You must have been editing your original post as I was writing almost the exact same thing!

FRSNewb 01-28-2015 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 2108832)
Also most cops don't enjoy writting tickets and will avoid it if they can, so if you get a ticket every time you get pulled over, youre probably being an ass. Just roll your windows down, turn on your dome light (if its at night), be polite and you'll probably just get a warning

Not to sound like an ass, but yes be polite but know your rights as a driver..

FRSTRM 01-28-2015 02:19 PM

I've been pulled over twice in my FRS (red, obviously modded). First time was the night before Thanksgiving, I pulled off a light and apparently hit 50 in a 35, I had no idea what the speed limit was or any idea how I got to 50 that fast. No idea where he came from either. He gave me 47/35 (to save me from reckless in VA). Thanks? I think.

Second time the officer was more of a douche. He said he had been pacing me from behind and that I was going at least 85 in a 70. I was like well that's cool but I was going 79 on cruise control, and he said the funny thing about cruise control is that it doesn't matter if I'm hitting the gas. I was about to be like, I think I know how it works. Once he realized he couldn't get me for speed he noticed I didn't have a front plate. Just got a new bumper from the body shop and didn't have he relocator plate in, so after I proved I had just gotten the car from the shop he sat in his car for a good 10 minutes and reluctantly let me go.

I'm surprised I haven't gotten more attention. I usually just find pace cars and let them take the heat if there are cops. It's more about smart driving if you really don't want to follow the speed limits. Haven't been pulled over in more than a year and I haven't changed my driving style at all.

Just be safe ya'll.

Pkush 01-28-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2108865)
I strongly believe in you get back what you give so manners, respect and candidness when addressing the officers have all served me well with the police over the years!

Maybe with your nice Canadian cops. I've always been nice and courteous and professional with cops that pulled me over. Always got a ticket.
1st - 15 over, I was going 50 in 45 and the speed limit dropped to 35, he was parked right behind the sign.
2nd - (I TOTALLY DESERVED IT) - I was going about 50 on a 35, turned into a neighborhood and went 70 on a 25...don't ask why. He couldn't catch up to me to clock me at 70 so he got me at 40 on 25. I took that with no problem and was happy.
3rd - 38 on 25, same street and 2 weeks after I got the 2nd. I honestly just spaced out for a sec and went faster. This time he was going to let me off with a warning...until he saw my $40 cobra radar. That radar went into the trash 20 minutes later lol

EDIT: All three were in my parents' cars before I bought my BRZ. Never been pulled over in the BRZ.

fang_gt86 01-28-2015 02:27 PM

Got the car since June 2013 and haven't got pulled over yet. I considered myself a spirited driver and will make any excuse just to do a little speeding.

Maybe it's the color of my car (whiteout, least aggressive color imo), really slow/perfect driver or just really lucky for now. But then, I've only driven 8k miles in over 2 years.

Tcoat 01-28-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fang_gt86 (Post 2108919)
. But then, I've only driven 8k miles in over 2 years.

I do in a month what you do in a year!

Pkush 01-28-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2108927)
I do in a month what you do in a year!

I do that in 2 months :D

extrashaky 01-28-2015 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 2108832)
Odds are if you feel like the police are targeting you, its probably your fault not the car.

I might think so, if it weren't for the fact that I have two vehicles that I drive pretty much in the same conservative manner.

If I'm driving the old Jeep Cherokee, cops never look twice at me.

If I'm driving the red BRZ, cops make obvious lane changes to get in behind me, turn when I turn to follow me, tailgate me aggressively (in some extreme cases) and hit me significantly more often with speed detection. There is a definite, noticeable difference.

Maybe you don't profile that way. Maybe you don't think you do. But I'm getting a little tired of cops in general immediately turning into assholes when they see my car.

FRSNewb 01-28-2015 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2108932)
If I'm driving the red BRZ, cops make obvious lane changes to get in behind me, turn when I turn to follow me, tailgate me aggressively (in some extreme cases) and hit me significantly more often with speed detection. There is a definite, noticeable difference.

Maybe you don't profile that way. Maybe you don't think you do. But I'm getting a little tired of cops in general immediately turning into assholes when they see my car.

I think red cars in general attract more police attention. They apparently are also the most common colour of cars stolen and are the most expensive colour of cars to insure

Tcoat 01-28-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkush (Post 2108930)
I do that in 2 months :D

Me too 8K divided by 2 is my 4K a month.

mmmcambelsoup 01-28-2015 02:44 PM

Literally just got an 80mph in a 60mph zone/freeway citation. Didn't even bother trying to converse w/ the cop. Damn it, charge it to the game.


... 10 min later catch a honk and:thumbup: from a toyota tundra. lol #optimistic

Akari 01-28-2015 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2108932)
I might think so, if it weren't for the fact that I have two vehicles that I drive pretty much in the same conservative manner.

If I'm driving the old Jeep Cherokee, cops never look twice at me.

If I'm driving the red BRZ, cops make obvious lane changes to get in behind me, turn when I turn to follow me, tailgate me aggressively (in some extreme cases) and hit me significantly more often with speed detection. There is a definite, noticeable difference.

Maybe you don't profile that way. Maybe you don't think you do. But I'm getting a little tired of cops in general immediately turning into assholes when they see my car.

This must be specific to the area you drive in. One person's experience in one area doesn't necessarily make it true everywhere, and many of us have the opposite experience.

Pbrown 01-28-2015 03:39 PM

no issues here
 
I've had some officers follow me very closely for a few km's and a couple have followed me into my parking lot at work, which I find odd. I think they want to pull me over but when they run my plates and see I have no tickets in the past 12 years they just move on. With a vanity plate on my car, doesn't make much sense to dry like a maniac as its easy to remember the plate. I always drive 10-12 km over the posted limit except schools. Having a child I don't mess with that environment.

Tcoat 01-28-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pbrown (Post 2109030)
doesn't make much sense to dry like a maniac .

Sorry! Was just to good to let slip by!
http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/u...drying-off.gif

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 01-28-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2109041)
Sorry! Was just to good to let slip by!
http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/u...drying-off.gif


Well I dry like a maniac after I wash the car. Damn water stains.

brandonblt2 01-28-2015 03:52 PM

I've been pulled over twice so far. First time I was in PA with NJ tags late at night heading home got pulled over because the cop said I was speeding 40 in a 25 which is weird cause I was only going 30 but whatever. He asked why I was in PA and tried to insinuate that I was a drug dealer or I stole the car. I told him to run my name and tags and you will see I'm squeaky clean not one speeding ticket. I ended up getting a ticket for just tint.

Second time time I was pulled over the officer was way cooler the only reason I was stopped was because I was pulling out a Home Depot at 3 am. I explained to him I had gotten a text from some girl I just meet at the bar to come over. And had to pull over to put the address in my gps. Said he completely understood and wished me luck and sent me on my way lol.

extrashaky 01-28-2015 04:01 PM

Backing up for a minute:

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 2108832)
Also most cops don't enjoy writting tickets and will avoid it if they can...

I don't believe that for a second, because it doesn't make any sense. Some may not enjoy it, but I don't believe even those try to avoid it because they have very strong incentives to write those tickets. If a cop is set up in a speed trap out on the highway, writing tickets is why he's there. If he comes back with no tickets, I would suspect that a supervisor would be wondering what the hell he's doing out there all day. For that matter, I have been told point blank by more than one cop that they had quotas they were expected to meet, and it's not uncommon for governments to budget for ticket revenue before it's collected, regardless of legality. A cop is not going to try to avoid writing a ticket with such strong incentives to the contrary.

And I don't believe that most cops don't enjoy writing tickets. They selected a job where they get to bully people and get away with it. That kind of work is naturally going to attract bullies. It's no different from any other kid of work that attracts a particular type of person. Auto repair is going to attract people who like working on machines, even though there are some who aren't very good at it. Actuarial is going to attract people who prefer working with numbers, even though someone with an actual personality might sneak through. Police work is going to attract people who enjoy the feeling of power over others.

Furthermore, if a cop chooses to write a ticket just because he doesn't like the driver, that cop has no business carrying a badge and gun. He's there for law enforcement, not for I-don't-like-your-tone-so-fuck-you enforcement. I've personally witnessed numerous incidents where cops were assholes from the outset, with no provocation at all, yet we're all supposed to love cops and be nice to them. You reap what you sow.

Pbrown 01-28-2015 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2109041)
Sorry! Was just to good to let slip by!
http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/u...drying-off.gif

Ah yes, a classic typing at work error. Was in London in early December for some training and was going to look you up but driving down in the wind storm for 10 hours kind of messed with that plan. didn't get in until 9pm instead of 6. Leaving London, I went to the full serve gas station out by the strip club ( Flesh Gordons I believe) and the attendant started wiping the dirt off the car with his glove. needless to say I quickly put a stop to that. If you're ever in the Ottawa area shoot me a pm. will give you a local tour of the city and introduce you to others, 20+ of us get together every Friday night for meets. strong group of enthusiasts here. Think there were 11 FRS/BRZ at the last track day in Calabogie. :cheers:

Tcoat 01-28-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2109072)
Backing up for a minute:



I don't believe that for a second, because it doesn't make any sense. Some may not enjoy it, but I don't believe even those try to avoid it because they have very strong incentives to write those tickets. If a cop is set up in a speed trap out on the highway, writing tickets is why he's there. If he comes back with no tickets, I would suspect that a supervisor would be wondering what the hell he's doing out there all day. For that matter, I have been told point blank by more than one cop that they had quotas they were expected to meet, and it's not uncommon for governments to budget for ticket revenue before it's collected, regardless of legality. A cop is not going to try to avoid writing a ticket with such strong incentives to the contrary.

And I don't believe that most cops don't enjoy writing tickets. They selected a job where they get to bully people and get away with it. That kind of work is naturally going to attract bullies. It's no different from any other kid of work that attracts a particular type of person. Auto repair is going to attract people who like working on machines, even though there are some who aren't very good at it. Actuarial is going to attract people who prefer working with numbers, even though someone with an actual personality might sneak through. Police work is going to attract people who enjoy the feeling of power over others.

Furthermore, if a cop chooses to write a ticket just because he doesn't like the driver, that cop has no business carrying a badge and gun. He's there for law enforcement, not for I-don't-like-your-tone-so-fuck-you enforcement. I've personally witnessed numerous incidents where cops were assholes from the outset, with no provocation at all, yet we're all supposed to love cops and be nice to them. You reap what you sow.

Canada Man Canada!
And no the old "cops everywhere are all the same" does not play!
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