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venturaII 01-27-2015 09:49 AM

Old school style
 
So, I REALLY like the TRD Tosco wheels that Toyota came up with for their show car a while back...they remind me of my Fiat/Alfa days with Cromodoras. The only thing that really makes them not an option (besides being unavailable...lol) is that they are 15". Has anyone seen Tosco/Cromodora-style wheels in a 16 or 17 with a 5x100 bolt pattern and reasonable offset?






http://www.jdmeuro.com/wp-content/up...on_FR-S_03.jpg




http://www.jdmeuro.com/wp-content/up...on_FR-S_03.jpg

http://www.histowheels.com/files/cromodora-cd-1-1.jpg

venturaII 01-27-2015 09:50 AM

Hmmm...looks like the pictures didn't upload...


EDIT: fixed it

illmattic 01-27-2015 11:50 AM

I doubt they came in 5x100. You would probably have to buy a set and use adapters to get them to work. Check some vintage Japanese wheel sites or hit up GTR-Garage as they have a great wheel import service.

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 01-27-2015 11:56 AM

The '79 RX7 has similar wheels but they were offered in 13's. Sadly, I couldn't find anything larger than the custom one-off that Toyota made for that FRS.

SkAsphalt 01-27-2015 12:14 PM

Rota makes a wheel in this exact style and it is available up to 17"
http://www.wheeldude.com/wordpress/w...retro-2-wheels

http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/...AM4A8590-L.jpg
http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/...dit-Edit-L.jpg
http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/...51187597_n.jpg
http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/...617423_n-L.jpg

stevemp5 01-27-2015 12:22 PM

I like old school! But these... :barf:

venturaII 01-27-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 2107057)





That's exactly what I'm looking for! But I'm having trouble actually finding the wheel for sale on Wheeldude's website...




EDIT: Ahh...looks like they are a new model and have yet to be released. Man, I just hope they aren't too heavy...

SkAsphalt 01-27-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2107106)
That's exactly what I'm looking for! But I'm having trouble actually finding the wheel for sale on Wheeldude's website...

The wheel is still new ish and their site is kind of a mess right now due to their tax return sale. Contact Wheeldude directly

venturaII 01-27-2015 12:55 PM

"These are called the Retro 2’s and there’s no need to explain why. These will come in 17×9 5×100 +42. You saw it here first at wheeldude.com. "







Hmmm...I like the conservative offset, but how tight is 17x9 going to fit on stock struts/springs with a +42 offset? That's only 6mm further outboard than stock. Add the extra 25.4 mm of the extra width on the inside lip, and you're nearly two full centimeters closer to the strut. Is there enough clearance? Is the issue of clearance with the wheel itself, or the tire? I just bought camber bolts too - will I be able to use them?

venturaII 01-27-2015 01:19 PM

Well, the wheel fitment chart in the sticky section seems to indicate 17x9 +42 will fit, but with only a 1/4" of clearance to the strut. Not much room for additional camber (at least, not with bolts...). If a 17x8 isn't available, I might have to go with Whiteline offset strut bushings to get more negative camber (and some added caster too).

mkiisupra 01-27-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 2107057)
Rota makes a wheel in this exact style and it is available up to 17"
http://www.wheeldude.com/wordpress/w...retro-2-wheels





I called and called, but they are out of stock. They were not the best seller, and kind hard to find now. I had to settle on the Enkei Compes for the retro look, otherwise I'd be rolling on these.

Eric G

TylerLieberman 01-27-2015 02:45 PM

I'm not really big on 16s or 15s for this car but DEAR GOD!!!

This is probably the best example I've seen yet of this setup. I follow him on ig and the car is pretty awesome. It used to have stillen aero and 18" RAYS on it.

This is probably one of mav TRA FRS'

https://naritadogfight.files.wordpre..._8335-edit.jpg

TylerLieberman 01-27-2015 02:46 PM

In case you're wondering, they're 4 lug Watanabe wheels with custom adapters to go from 4x114 to 5x100.

SkAsphalt 01-27-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2107344)
In case you're wondering, they're 4 lug Watanabe wheels with custom adapters to go from 4x114 to 5x100.

are they..magnesium :o

dem00n 01-27-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2107344)
In case you're wondering, they're 4 lug Watanabe wheels with custom adapters to go from 4x114 to 5x100.

15 or 16? 8 inch? That's a nice setup!

venturaII 01-27-2015 04:17 PM

I like the Minilite/Panasport/Watanabe look, but the body kit, stance and 4 lug adapters are a bit over the top for me. I'm trying to keep this thing usable. lol

8R6 01-27-2015 04:30 PM

non-honda version of the mugen manhole covers.......

dem00n 01-27-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2107488)
I like the Minilite/Panasport/Watanabe look, but the body kit, stance and 4 lug adapters are a bit over the top for me. I'm trying to keep this thing usable. lol

If you want that old school JDM look, your best bet is importing wheels from Japan. You'll have to run adapters as well, since 5x100 is a Subaru thing.

It won't be cheap, JDM wheels new and old tend to have a premium to them. They can take a beating though and tend to be lighter than the European counterparts. Be cautious of three piece wheels, older ones will need rebuilding!

Also the TRD car is lowered by a lot. Even those the 15 inch wheels have fatter rubber, you can see on the Speedhunters article that it's lowered on the TRD coilovers. The car would look pretty bad on 15 inch wheels without lowering it. 16 inch wheels with 55 size sidewall on stock ride height can look good, if you like rally cars!

Yet again...15 inch wheels without the right offset and size tend not to fit our cars due to brakes. 17 inch wheels would look off with the old school look, I'd stick to 16.

M23 01-27-2015 06:28 PM

+1 for Watanabe look

Rota makes a 17" replica fyi:
17x8.5 5x100 e+10
17x8 5x100 e+5

http://www.rotawheels.com/wheel.php?id=100

..wish they'd make these and ship them to the states already.

The 18" version everyone has look waaay too big for this old-school design though.

FTemplar 06-16-2015 01:39 PM

Hey guys, I stumbled upon this thread because i was looking for pics of old school FR-S to update my new page with (https://www.facebook.com/retroGT86BRZ) . I created this page because I couldn't find a comprehensive website that specializes in anything old school or retro related to the GT86. If you own a GT86 that has some retro flair to it and would like it featured on my page, or just have some cool pics or info to share, feel free to send me some pictures!

That said, I thought i'd chime in since I have a set of Retro 2's. I was looking for those back in November '14 and came across them completely by accident by finding an ad on craiglist. The seller told me they were created for the SEMA '13 show and only 2 sets were made, so I quickly jumped on them! I tried to trace the origin of that set, It is my understanding that they changed owners at least 3 times, but for all I know they could be the same that were on Wheeldude's FR-S @ SEMA '13. The only other car I have ever seen them on are the six retro-liveried GT86's recently produced by Toyota and sponsored by Rota. Last I was told, they are not for sale and special order only. (For now...)
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/03/t...goodwood-poll/

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...da&oe=562CD4A4

Anyway, here are some pics of them on my car, hope you like it :) I've ordered my set of overlay cluster gauges too, they should come in soon. I think my Subaru is totaled, it keep trying to go back to its Toyota AE86 roots ;) haha

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f5&oe=562A34EB
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...08&oe=562F2B49
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b1&oe=562757E4
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...25&oe=55EB9561

Thanks & regards,
Jonathan

venturaII 06-16-2015 03:22 PM

I still really like those wheels, but based on Wheeldude's lackluster customer support, plus the facts that they basically tried to talk me out of buying them based on their very limited availability, plus a 19 pound wheel isn't the direction I wanted to go, I ended up going with 16x7's and 225/50's, which I feel work a lot better with the stock suspension. For less than the cost of the Rotas, I got 12.5 pound forged wheels AND Ecsta XS tires, basically new. It was too good a deal to pass up.


I really like the Retros on the blue.

FTemplar 06-16-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2289069)
I still really like those wheels, but based on Wheeldude's lackluster customer support, plus the facts that they basically tried to talk me out of buying them based on their very limited availability, plus a 19 pound wheel isn't the direction I wanted to go, I ended up going with 16x7's and 225/50's, which I feel work a lot better with the stock suspension. For less than the cost of the Rotas, I got 12.5 pound forged wheels AND Ecsta XS tires, basically new. It was too good a deal to pass up.


I really like the Retros on the blue.

Interesting, I totally understand your reasons for going that direction, as for me well its my daily drive so I was just concerned about looks. Out of curiosity through, how much were they asking for the Retro 2s ? I ended up paying 800 USD for mine (used).

venturaII 06-16-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTemplar (Post 2289081)
Interesting, I totally understand your reasons for going that direction, as for me well its my daily drive so I was just concerned about looks. Out of curiosity through, how much were they asking for the Retro 2s ? I ended up paying 800 USD for mine (used).


They were in the $275 ballpark, if I recall correct. I REALLY like this wheel (still do), but man, Wheeldude's support was beyond horrible. Never returned calls/emails, and when I finally managed to get someone on the phone to ask questions of, they never had any answers, nor did they get back to me with the answers like they said they would.


The final straw was the weight and the +42 and 17x9 combo meant very little negative camber was available. But damn, they look good.

FTemplar 06-16-2015 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2289106)
They were in the $275 ballpark, if I recall correct. I REALLY like this wheel (still do), but man, Wheeldude's support was beyond horrible. Never returned calls/emails, and when I finally managed to get someone on the phone to ask questions of, they never had any answers, nor did they get back to me with the answers like they said they would.


The final straw was the weight and the +42 and 17x9 combo meant very little negative camber was available. But damn, they look good.

I understand where you're coming from. After I bought them, I tried to find out more about them from Rota and Wheeldude, and I hit a wall with everyone...

And yeah, i'm on stock suspension and there is VERY little clearance left between my tire and the stock front struts. About half an inch I would say... I would definitely need spacers if I was gonna lower it, but i'm not planning to because Canadian winters :bonk:

What kind of wheel design did you end up going with?

venturaII 06-16-2015 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTemplar (Post 2289113)
I understand where you're coming from. After I bought them, I tried to find out more about them from Rota and Wheeldude, and I hit a wall with everyone...

And yeah, i'm on stock suspension and there is VERY little clearance left between my tire and the stock front struts. About half an inch I would say... I would definitely need spacers if I was gonna lower it, but i'm not planning to because Canadian winters :bonk:

What kind of wheel design did you end up going with?





I went with Motegi Traklites. I'm really not a fan of five spoke designs in general, but these were being sold on the forum here as a basically unused wheel and tire combo for very short money. They had one trackday on them with just two sessions in the rain, so they weren't even scrubbed in, really. For the weight loss and price, it was too good to pass up.


If the Retros came in a more reasonable size, like a 16x8 and offset around +40, I'd be tempted to take the performance hit in weight to get the great looks.


I'm on stock suspension as well, for the same reason (New England roads), and the taller sidewall of the 16s really works well with the long travel.


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