I would buy the stock tires over and over again!
 

Honestly I think the stock tires aren't that bad, sure they chirp a bit and aren't as grippy as the Z1 I had before but I like it. Would it be weird if my tires needs to be replaced and I ask for exact match of pairs of tires?

Anyone on my side? If not feel free to shit on my opinion :)


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I am with you!
They didn't pick these tires because it was all they had to chose from.
Nothing happened on this car by chance it was all by choice.

Exactly, I love the stock tires!

if i was going to replace just two tires i would probably get the same tires but if i were replacing all four, they would be different. they arent bad at all but they are very expensive for what they are.

It intrigues me when someone says "the car needs more power". The car is an inanimate object:it doesn't need anything. What the person means is "I want more power". It gets me when someone thinks their wants are the same as everybody else's wants.

Same with tyres.Tyres are a compromise like everything else. If the oem tyres fulfill your requirements for a tyre then they are a good tyre (though as @fatoni says on the pricey side) regardless of other people's opinions.

I have to kill them first. With separate winter tires, the summers last twice as long. Money, will be the biggest factor.

How much are these tires actually?


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I would buy the stock tires over and over again!
 

Agreed! When the car was about a month old, I parked in front of the hotel waiting for my gf to finish check out procedures and this guy who finished his check out (in his 50s) came up to me was like "nice car" then he start asking how well it runs and stuff as soon as he dropped the question how much horses does it have? It went bad.

Old man: how many horse power does this thing have?
Ducky: just 200
Old man: awwwww, WHAT?!?!? 200 ONLY?!?
Ducky: but it's light, handles well, and fun
Old man: I once had a vette once and that thing had 400hp stock, but it wasn't enough I doubled it. Probably drop like 80k or more in total just to beef it up. You got to beef that thing up man!
-in ducky's mind- you don't know how well and fun this is until you try it.
Ducky: haha yeah I'm a poor college student, can't afford to do that, but it's fun and enough for me right now.
Old man: your car is light but when I had my vette it was light, going through those corners were great, those backroad drives and tracks.

I'm just thinking how light can corvette be when it's already heavy with its engine "beefed up" double its hp.

Muscle heads will always be muscle heads, it's not always about the ponies, 200 is enough, some drivers can't even handle 130hp from a civic, they crash and total. Look at the bad reviews about the beefy 370 compare to other sports car, they have power but just too darn heavy. Look up some Romeo 4c reviews 240hp, 2500 pounds, but still not as fun as a miata as reviewer claims.

Shake my fucking head at muscle heads


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Fixed lol

^ I like the part where you turned a tyre thread into a HP thread


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For me,

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I would buy the stock tires over and over again!
 

It's not a tire thread or a hp thread, it's a personal preference and express your opinion thread.

Feel free to drop a discussion that's on your mind and put me on blast if anyone disagree with my opinion


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In case you missed it I was saying that power, like tyres, is a personal preference.

By the way, I don't know why people keep thinking the stock rims are butt ugly. They looks fine to me. Definitely not as good as rpf1 but better than those Honda and Nissan rims IMO


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Yeah but are you going to buy the same rims again after you wear out the oem rims?


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If they are cheap, and I'm dirt broke. I don't mind buying it off someone who just got their car and swapping out their rims.


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According to 86 owners, changing the tires will allow this car to beat lambos around the track

I am one of the newest folks around here, so I'll throw that right out so I don't appear to be talking from years of experience - I know my place - I am an FRS noob.

So, the first thing I looked at is where the OP is from - Cali. These tires are not bad for drivers in that part of the country.

I too liked the stock tires on dry pavement, in warm weather. They were fun to drive on, for sure.

I bought my FRS in November, and here in MD, we start getting Wintery weather shortly after. The Primacy HDs, IMO, leave a lot to be desired when driving in cold and/or wet, and/or snow. Enter Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's. These tires out-perform the HP's on absolutely every front, very substantially, and I believe they cost less than the HP's. The Michelin's grip is way beyond the HP's, and they are barely affected by wet conditions. In snow, they are way better than the HPs - no comparison - but still, they are A/S's, not to be compared with dedicated snows. On the down side, given what I've learned here, some Michelin PS A/S 3 owners are not getting near 45k mileage on them. I need to see what I get out of them.


So, IMO the Michelin's are so superior, they might be the best first choice for any FRS owner, regardless of where they live.

How much cost those tires?

I don't like the primacys :-/
Here in Germany it rains a lot and you have the Autobahn with unlimited parts were you can go a lot faster than US highway speed. And for both those situations they are not my first choice. They are indeed fun for little sliding at low speed but the more narrow the roads get the less time you are using it like that.

I'm going for 225 Continental Sportcontact 5 this summer.

I found a great discount retailer nearby me - lower prices than Sears. I paid $620 mounted, balanced, taxes/fees, out-the-door.

FRS + Autobahn = :)

I need to visit Germany.

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I'll get them again..
 

I'm getting a set of the primacy for circuit "fun"...for me its all about me having fun, so i'm forgetting about lowering my times on the track and focusing on being the happiest guy with the biggest smile there. "Fun"=sliding, drifting, making noise....you guys know what i mean
The primacy like any other performance tire got their use and place....for me its not public roads, for my driving anyway.

Sometimes I wonder. It seems to me that car manufacturers have a contract to buy tires only from a certain tire vendor.

Your getting those tires because this was pre-arranged by the car/tire companies.

Yes they are contracted but the car companies set the specs not the suppliers. Parts manufacturers have to meet the car companies, specs, price point and demand not the other way around.

I live in Southern Cali. Had to replace my OEM tires and it cost ~$930. Asked what Michelin summer tires they had. Walked out paying ~$500.

Our stock tires are 182 on tire rack. A/S 3's, which I also chose to replace them for maryland driving, are only 142. I don't believe the A/S 3's were out when the car came out, but I'm sure there was something comparable. Here is a list of some of the ratings betweeen these tires.

Primacy vs A/S 3
Price $182 vs $148
Treadwear 240 vs 500
Hydroplaning resistance 7.7 vs 9.0
Wet Traction 7.5 vs 9.1
Dry Traction 8.0 vs 9.2
Steering response 8.1 vs 9.1
Ride comfort 7.6 vs 8.5
noise comfort 7.3 vs 8.1

Primacies have no ratings on their snow/ice abilty because they are summer tires. I was fine with the stock tires when it was dry and warm too, but it's not like that all year. It suprises me they put a summer tire on a car sold in so many different areas, when there are all seasons with specs far better that look basically the same and should last longer.

The Primacy HP and Pilot Sports are both Michelin tires. :bonk:

Stock tire is fun on small track/drift session. I like them but yes they have zero traction in wet/snow.

You would never make it to the left lane.

From driving my FR-S on three types of tires, OEM, high performance Summer and ultra-high performance Summer, I'm thinking product liability was a factor in Toyota's tire choice.

Realizing that the target market as a whole (certainly not the enthusists here representing a fraction of total owners) would have less high performance driving experience than, say, Cayman buyers, they spec'd a lower grip tire to cater to the lowest common denominator. That's what they did with MR2 Spyder and Celica that had performance oriented drivers changing out quickly.

For my use, the OEM price became useful. My local tire company gave a generous trade allowance for them toward a set of less expensive Michelin PSS 225/45-17 mounted and with lifetime balance and 30K replacement warranty. The PSS's net cost $200 OTD and made the car in stock form much closer to the GT experience I was looking for vs. the mushy OEM tires.

It really does go on opinion. I cant get rid of these stock wheels fast enough. It feels like I'm running on dummies and that's not cool with me haha

Bought a set of OEM wheels and put 225/45 Pilot A/S 3's on at Costco yesterday. Changed out the Primacy set of tires and wheels this morning. Just went for test drive; Yummy!! I'll put the Primacy tires back on in early April and, unless they really disappoint, wear them out. Then consider a summer tire for the April to November season.
I don't need horse power where I am. I need sticky tires. Narrow cart ways, short sight distances, sharp 90 degree turns... people coming the other way... I was going to get a Cayman but this FRS is really all I need.

Yeah - I know...
It was early today when I wrote that.
My bad.
-bk

Agreed.
But I'd have fun trying. :)

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I go through a set of tires in 10k miles because I drive on chip seal. I'm getting to the point where I don't really care what the tires are.

I would buy the stock tires over and over again!
 

As my car is in the shop right now for a repaint, the shop lend me their civic. I realize how good my tires are compared to these. Every time I brake or make a fast turn the tires screeches so loud. The police looks at me like "damn, you Honda driver!"

Dont forget to stop at nurburgring