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jknakes 01-12-2015 10:12 AM

rydeen mini backup cam
 
i've been reading through the various threads about backup cameras and the raydeen seems to be a popular choice. one thing i'm unsure about is weather it does or does not need any extra harness things to work the brz limited headunit. also i wanted to check if anyone knew if there were any differences between
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GQTYG3Q/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=23TYD CTFBEOBL&coliid=I5G5224BSFTDF"]Amazon.com : Rydeen RYD ZH07150B Universal Mini Camera, CMOS III NightVision Technology : Point And Shoot Digital Cameras : Camera & Photo[/ame]

and
http://www.al-eds.com/Rydeen-Mobile-...0B-p22239.html

in most threads i've seen the link to al-eds so just wanted to know it it came with any extra things that i wouldn't get from amazon.

Simok 01-13-2015 07:25 PM

May want to double check but I believe you need a beatsonic harness well

aznatama 01-13-2015 07:48 PM

Why not just get the Toyota FIT camera system from ebay. Comes w/ everything you need. Or get the beatsonic kit?

menikmati 01-13-2015 07:55 PM

I'm running a Rydeen Duo and harness from http://autoharnesshouse.com/19867.html.

The whole setup runs for about $100 combined and is plug-and-play.

sluflyer06 01-14-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aznatama (Post 2089770)
Why not just get the Toyota FIT camera system from ebay. Comes w/ everything you need. Or get the beatsonic kit?

Is the Toyota system better? This is the first I've heard of it on the forum myself.

aznatama 01-14-2015 11:07 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=camera

FWIW, I didn't know the pinout of the stock wiring, which is the only reason I spliced the power from the other connector. The kit does come with a single black wire w/ pin to be inserted into the correct hole int he factory harness for use as power.

SVXdc 01-19-2015 11:28 PM

Most cameras (including the Rydeens) do not include [an extra, car-specific] harness, since they're intended to be used with an aftermarket head unit or display unit. Connecting to a factory HU will require an additional harness (which varies with different car models). Some vendors have started offering kits with a harness for a particular car plus a camera.

For your BRZ, you can also use my rear camera harness. With the Rydeen cameras (as well as any other camera that works from 6 Volts [and there are many]), you won't need any additional harness(es) to tap into power from anywhere else, and you won't need a relay. Very easy connections. See the links on that page for more information about how your HU's camera function works, as well as the installation instructions.

jknakes 01-28-2015 08:42 AM

Thanks for the info. I have a co-worker with an frs that's interested in going the same route as me. I assume she would need the same things?

SVXdc 01-29-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jknakes (Post 2108463)
Thanks for the info. I have a co-worker with an frs that's interested in going the same route as me. I assume she would need the same things?

Yes, her FR-S will need a camera plus the same type of harness with 16-pin plug. In her case, FR-S also requires that you add a wire with the reverse gear signal to the OEM radio's 28-pin harness plug -- FR-S does not have that signal from the factory. I offer a 4-foot wire with the proper Japanese terminal that you can easily snap into the vacant slot on the car's plug. The other end you must tap into a factory wire in the driver's footwell. See my installation instructions for FR-S.

jknakes 03-08-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SVXdc (Post 2110496)
Yes, her FR-S will need a camera plus the same type of harness with 16-pin plug. In her case, FR-S also requires that you add a wire with the reverse gear signal to the OEM radio's 28-pin harness plug -- FR-S does not have that signal from the factory. I offer a 4-foot wire with the proper Japanese terminal that you can easily snap into the vacant slot on the car's plug. The other end you must tap into a factory wire in the driver's footwell. See my installation instructions for FR-S.

which of your harness versions is the one i'd need for the rydeen?

ARTBRZ 03-08-2015 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVXdc (Post 2110496)
Yes, her FR-S will need a camera plus the same type of harness with 16-pin plug. In her case, FR-S also requires that you add a wire with the reverse gear signal to the OEM radio's 28-pin harness plug -- FR-S does not have that signal from the factory. I offer a 4-foot wire with the proper Japanese terminal that you can easily snap into the vacant slot on the car's plug. The other end you must tap into a factory wire in the driver's footwell. See my installation instructions for FR-S.

Question: I bought a camera that only has an RCA ground and an RCA that goes for the video. I also bought a Pioneer Avic X9310BT harness. Will I need to add a wire the reverse signal?

These camera that I bought is COOLINT CT-X102BL
Thanks in advance!

SVXdc 03-15-2015 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jknakes (Post 2160780)
which of your harness versions is the one i'd need for the rydeen?

All of mine will work. All versions include the 6V camera power lead, which the Rydeens can use. The "bypass" version is the most popular, and the one I recommend. See my 'camera operation' guide to decide.

SVXdc 03-15-2015 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ARTBRZ (Post 2160888)
Question: I bought a camera that only has an RCA ground and an RCA that goes for the video. I also bought a Pioneer Avic X9310BT harness. Will I need to add a wire the reverse signal?

These camera that I bought is COOLINT CT-X102BL

???

What head unit was factory installed? Was it not one of the OEM Fujitsu Ten nav HUs like every US BRZ gets? I don't understand why you got the AVIC harness. Do you now have an AVIC HU?

All US BRZ models that I've seen already have the reverse gear signal on the factory 28-pin harness.

If your camera is like most, the HU end of its long cable will end with a male RCA plug for the video output. It should also have power and ground leads, either near the camera, near the HU, or both.

Some cameras simply have an extra red wire embedded in the long video cable (with both ends exposed and not connected). It's the same as if you had taped an extra wire down the length of the RCA cable. It's available for you to optionally send the reverse signal from the trunk to the HU. You can usually also use that wire to send power from the HU back to the camera (and skip tapping into the reverse lights to power the camera).

In the Rydeens, the embedded red wire is already connected to the camera power lead near the camera.

ARTBRZ 03-15-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SVXdc (Post 2169711)
???

What head unit was factory installed? Was it not one of the OEM Fujitsu Ten nav HUs like every US BRZ gets? I don't understand why you got the AVIC harness. Do you now have an AVIC HU?

All US BRZ models that I've seen already have the reverse gear signal on the factory 28-pin harness.

If your camera is like most, the HU end of its long cable will end with a male RCA plug for the video output. It should also have power and ground leads, either near the camera, near the HU, or both.

Some cameras simply have an extra red wire embedded in the long video cable (with both ends exposed and not connected). It's the same as if you had taped an extra wire down the length of the RCA cable. It's available for you to optionally send the reverse signal from the trunk to the HU. You can usually also use that wire to send power from the HU back to the camera (and skip tapping into the reverse lights to power the camera).

In the Rydeens, the embedded red wire is already connected to the camera power lead near the camera.

Yup found out the hard way. For some reason I thought the HU is a pioneer. I had to return the harness and I'm waiting for the beatsonic harness.

jknakes 05-03-2015 05:57 PM

Ok so i have the camera mounted and the wires ran all the way to the head unit. now i'm fairly confused. I think i understood what i've read so far but i'm not sure. do i have the below correct? right now i have the black wire grounded to the ground point on the passenger side behind the head unit. that doesn't seem right though because it ends up being so short that i can't plug it into the head unit. i assume that the svxdc 16 pin replaces the factory one. so do i just leave that unplugged? or do i splice the ground into that instead? I'm sure these are probably dumb questions, but i've spent the last couple hours searching threads trying to understand and obviously i still don't. thanks for any help.


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SVXdc 05-03-2015 09:34 PM

The black wire on my harness already is a ground. You don't need to connect it to anything. It's available to supply ground to a camera or relay.

The factory harness with 16-pin plug (and only one wire) has your car's parking brake signal. Since you ordered the "bypass" version of my harness, you'll plug my camera harness into the rear of the HU, and you'll no longer need the factory harness -- just tape or tie that back in the HU cavity, to prevent rattling.

For more info, please see my installation instructions (that link is also listed on the product page for the camera harness).

ADDED: Also, since you're powering the Rydeen from my harness, make sure you insulate the Rydeen's other red wire (near the camera). Do not use that wire for any purpose (since it will now be "live" with the 6V power coming from your OEM HU).

jknakes 05-03-2015 09:47 PM

i don't know why but i couldn't not fine that page. thank you! hopefully i did everything else correctly and all i have left is putting the head unit back in place.

toast 05-04-2015 11:01 AM

After just one winter the black finish is corroded all to hell on the body of my Rydeen. I would have been better off saving money and getting a cheap ebay camera.

No1der 05-04-2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aznatama (Post 2090466)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=camera

FWIW, I didn't know the pinout of the stock wiring, which is the only reason I spliced the power from the other connector. The kit does come with a single black wire w/ pin to be inserted into the correct hole int he factory harness for use as power.

+1
Plug and play come everything you need. Easy installation

jknakes 05-05-2015 09:54 AM

SVXdc thanks for the help, i got everything fully working yesterday. Looks like i do need to do some calibration of the lines however. the jack stands are the width of the car and about 4 feet back. drivers side looks to be pretty much on, the passenger is off. time for more forum searching on how to get to the right menu.

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SVXdc 05-08-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by toast (Post 2236516)
After just one winter the black finish is corroded all to hell on the body of my Rydeen. I would have been better off saving money and getting a cheap ebay camera.

There was some recent discussion about counterfeit Rydeen cameras from eBay...
Rydeen ZH07-150B Not working on 6V
Any chance that yours is actually a fake? A real Rydeen will have a sticker with Rydeen's logo and a serial number on the camera, come packaged in a box with full color graphics on every side, and have matching serial numbers on the outside of the box.

SVXdc 05-08-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jknakes (Post 2237848)
Looks like i do need to do some calibration of the lines however. ... time for more forum searching on how to get to the right menu.

My installation instructions page for Subarus includes that. :thumbsup:


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