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becauseracecar1 01-09-2015 02:30 PM

Deadly street racing wreck(FRS involved)
 
http://www.news4sanantonio.com/news/...38.shtml?wap=0

Mr.Impreza 01-09-2015 02:38 PM

The sad part is the age...such a joyful life was ahead of him.
People need to know that it doesn't matter who's faster and think about life in general.

Tromatic 01-09-2015 03:03 PM

Good, no innocent bystander involved, and one of them won't have the opportunity to try again.

Fang 01-09-2015 03:17 PM

video said he was ejected out of the car.. no seatbelt. from the looks of car he probably would have survived if he had his seatbelt on.

a girl i know from college, her boyfriend at the time died when he was 18 street racing in his s2000 and wrapped himself around a tree. too young.

Tgionet 01-09-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fang (Post 2084304)
video said he was ejected out of the car.. no seatbelt. from the looks of car he probably would have survived if he had his seatbelt on.

a girl i know from college, her boyfriend at the time died when he was 18 street racing in his s2000 and wrapped himself around a tree. too young.

Are we looking at the same crash? I see a car that's literally torn in half
http://i.imgur.com/SwlHAvk.jpg

Dave-ROR 01-09-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tgionet (Post 2084318)
Are we looking at the same crash? I see a car that's literally torn in half
http://i.imgur.com/SwlHAvk.jpg

Two cars, one looks survivable, the other not so much.. not sure if the 86 driver passed or the other guy but I'd guess the other guy based on the pics... based on the story I'd guess the 86 driver. :shrug:

Fang 01-09-2015 03:46 PM

i was watching it windowed mode and thought the roof was still intact and thought most of the damage was in the rear. eesh

Tromatic 01-09-2015 03:47 PM

No belt. Sort of a Bad Conduct Discharge then?

Teseo 01-09-2015 03:56 PM

No seatbelt? His problem, and how he lost control of the car?

Tromatic 01-09-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2084366)
No seatbelt? His problem, and how he lost control of the car?

As in he could not stay in control because he was out of the seat? I would doubt it. If the car was behaving that badly, it was already too late. Could the belt have helped him avoid the crash? Who knows. Had he been wearing his SB, we probably could have asked him. Dude was an idiot.

FlamingRectumSyndrome 01-09-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2084349)
Two cars, one looks survivable, the other not so much.. not sure if the 86 driver passed or the other guy but I'd guess the other guy based on the pics... based on the story I'd guess the 86 driver. :shrug:

That's not two cars-- that's an FR-S that's been torn in half from hitting something very solid, travelling ass-first at a high speed. Not sure a seat belt would have made any difference in this one; there's only so much energy a human body can take before stuff starts ripping apart internally.

Tromatic 01-09-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingRectumSyndrome (Post 2084498)
That's not two cars-- that's an FR-S that's been torn in half from hitting something very solid, travelling ass-first at a high speed. Not sure a seat belt would have made any difference in this one; there's only so much energy a human body can take before stuff starts ripping apart internally.

A vital part of surviving even something that violent is staying in the seat in the car. I'm willing to bet would have survived had he stayed in the car. Not saying he would not have been AFU, but we won't ever know. Wonder what the BAC will be.

ETA: There was a pic here a year(?) ago of a car in Europe that went of a mountain, IIRC. Car was SMASHED but the occupants survived. Regardless, no belt is just as stupid as no MC helmet, and I will get a chuckle at your (not you) expense when you get deaded because of it.

FlamingRectumSyndrome 01-09-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084515)
A vital part of surviving even something that violent is staying in the seat in the car. I'm willing to bet would have survived had he stayed in the car.

Possibly so. I worked in emergency rooms for 15 years as a respiratory therapist, it was routine to have police officers in the ER interviewing patients after an accident, and they'd always ask about seat belt use. It never ceased to amaze me how many people still believed that it was better to be "thrown clear of the wreckage" rather than be belted into their cars- as if they'd be ejected and land on a big fat pile of mattresses and pillows that somehow happened to be laying along the roadside.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...hrownclear.jpg

The truth was that in a rollover, many occupants DID end up being ejected out the window- right up to their waist. There generally wasn't any point in bringing them to the ER, as there wasn't much of anything left above the belt that was worth saving.

Wear your seat belt, people.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingRectumSyndrome (Post 2084498)
That's not two cars-- that's an FR-S that's been torn in half from hitting something very solid, travelling ass-first at a high speed. Not sure a seat belt would have made any difference in this one; there's only so much energy a human body can take before stuff starts ripping apart internally.

Watched it again on something bigger than my phone. You are correct. Looked like wo different cars on my phone.

I feel for his friends and family but don't feel sorry for him personally.

Tromatic 01-09-2015 06:19 PM

I've been waiting to get jumped for having zero sympathy. Is something wrong?

Error 01-09-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084559)
I've been waiting to get jumped for having zero sympathy. Is something wrong?

Eh, circumstances like these don't leave much room for sympathy. Of course anyone dying at a young age like that is tragic, but when the driver chooses to put his foot down, he chooses to make the decision to risk his well being and possibly the wellbeing of other innocent drivers. Let it be a lesson to anyone who thinks excessive speed on public roads is a good idea. You not only endanger yourself, but anybody else who may have the misfortune of being near you when you decide to throw safety and logic out the window.

2much 01-09-2015 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084559)
I've been waiting to get jumped for having zero sympathy. Is something wrong?

Not having sympathy is one thing, and its rather rational from my point of view. Having respect for human life is another, and it's sad that this kid got the worst punishment possible for a childish mistake that so many people make frequently.

Tcoat 01-09-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084559)
I've been waiting to get jumped for having zero sympathy. Is something wrong?

And for you Trom many of your comments here have been relatively gentle compared to normal!

extrashaky 01-09-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tgionet (Post 2084318)
Are we looking at the same crash? I see a car that's literally torn in half
http://i.imgur.com/SwlHAvk.jpg

Fatal car crash, brought to you by Ashley Furniture!

Back on topic, I think he would have more of a chance of surviving had he been securely bolted in among all those airbags, even if the back of the car was gone.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza (Post 2084222)
The sad part is the age...such a joyful life was ahead of him.

You can't assume that. He might have been well on his way to a terrible life that would have sucked.

Wes 01-09-2015 07:55 PM

WHat I dont understand is what was so important about the street race that he had to risk his life? either way, dumb decision.

Tcoat 01-09-2015 08:00 PM

Now we need to watch on here for anybody from San Antonio that has suddenly disappeared!

extrashaky 01-09-2015 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingRectumSyndrome (Post 2084536)
It never ceased to amaze me how many people still believed that it was better to be "thrown clear of the wreckage" rather than be belted into their cars- as if they'd be ejected and land on a big fat pile of mattresses and pillows that somehow happened to be laying along the roadside.

Once when I was in television I covered a single car accident involving a brand new Mustang being driven by a college student. The car had gone off the road and ended up rolling over gently onto its side in the grass. By the time I got there it was back on its wheels. It had a big dent in the door and was a little scraped up on that side, but otherwise the car was in amazingly good shape. I'm pretty sure you could have driven it home.

You could have, but not the driver. That big dent in the door was caused by his head. When the car tilted gently over, it dumped him face first into the ground, where his head somehow ended up under the car.

Because he wasn't wearing a seat belt.

Caspeed 01-09-2015 08:14 PM

If you're gonna be stupid you'd better be tough!!!

Createddeleted 01-09-2015 08:36 PM

http://www.kens5.com/story/news/loca...dent/21487987/

SVTSHC 01-09-2015 08:52 PM

What a shame. Poor kid won't even get to learn his lesson. We all make mistakes at some point in life that could have been fatal, very few don't (lord knows I have on more than one occasion). Hopefully the other driver takes this as a hard lesson learned.

Cliu91 01-09-2015 08:55 PM

Yes the guy made poor, and dangerous decisions that ultimately lead to his death. It is still very sad. There are many people out there that have driven irresponsibly, this person might have just been going through a phase. Not to condone his actions, or say that it wasn't his fault, but we might be too quick to judge someone in these situations.

At the end of the day, street racing is illegal, and very dangerous. Let's keep this in mind so we can have fewer accidents and deaths on the road. Stay safe everyone.

Tcoat 01-09-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SVTSHC (Post 2084762)
Hopefully the other driver takes this as a hard lesson learned.

Probably not. They will blame the city, truck driver, police, parents, education, aliens or bigfoot but they will not feel responsible at all and will probably be at it again next week!


I have no idea how I managed to live long enough to realize I was being a moron back when I was young.

themadscientist 01-09-2015 08:57 PM

Meh, best result possible short of both of them dieing. I have been known to engage in such selfish behavior and I tell my family and friends not to say how tragic it was if I kill myself doing it. Say I was being an asshole, because that's exactly what I was doing.

SVTSHC 01-09-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2084772)
Probably not. They will blame the city, truck driver, police, parents, education, aliens or bigfoot but they will not feel responsible at all and will probably be at it again next week!


I have no idea how I managed to live long enough to realize I was being a moron back when I was young.


You and me both, I shiver remembering how many "oh shi-" situations I've been in that should have killed me.

Racebo 01-09-2015 09:31 PM

I'm around this guys age and area where he's from. Racing in the first place is dangerous, but also add in the bad weather that we've been having its just plain dumb. I feel bad for his family and friends that have to live on with the mistake that he made.

Marx 01-09-2015 09:42 PM

Jeebus.

http://i.imgur.com/EfZlCNa.png

Caspeed 01-09-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2084772)
Probably not. They will blame the city, truck driver, police, parents, education, aliens or bigfoot but they will not feel responsible at all and will probably be at it again next week!


I have no idea how I managed to live long enough to realize I was being a moron back when I was young.

No one takes personal responsibilty anymore. It starts with the role models. No one owns it anymore, politicians, athletes, parents it's always someone or something else's fault.

With that attitude you end up never learning your lesson.
The first step in learning is realizing that you don't know.

Tromatic 01-09-2015 09:51 PM

The number of people in this thread who take responsibility for their own actions is way high. How odd. ETA: I'd hooligan with you as well.

Tcoat 01-09-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Caspeed (Post 2084860)
No one takes personal responsibilty anymore. It starts with the role models. No one owns it anymore, politicians, athletes, parents it's always someone or something else's fault.

With that attitude you end up never learning your lesson.
The first step in learning is realizing that you don't know.

Oh I hear ya on that!
I have a safety committee at one of my plants that consists of me and 4 early 20 something's.
I messed something up once and sat in the meeting and said "sorry guys my fault". They all looked at me like I had two heads and started trying to find some way it wasn't my fault for me!

Tromatic 01-09-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2084685)
And for you Trom many of your comments here have been relatively gentle compared to normal!

I was once a retard, but I was loved tenderly, and learned. Now, I would pass my hard-earned wisdom on to others. If only there was some way to know who was worthy of my tender loving.

Tcoat 01-09-2015 10:03 PM

http://rs2img.memecdn.com/hai-sensei_c_2319997.jpg
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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084877)
I was once a retard, but I was loved tenderly, and learned. Now, I would pass my hard-earned wisdom on to others. If only there was some way to know who was worthy of my tender loving.


Tromatic 01-09-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2084882)

Too drunk to come back so fast. Working..........

Caspeed 01-09-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084864)
The number of people in this thread who take responsibility for their own actions is way high. How odd. ETA: I'd hooligan with you as well.

Except when they've modded the hell out of their car and then complain about a rattle, a trany problem or any number of other issues that could not have been caused by their actions or abuse. It's Toyota's fault.

Tcoat 01-09-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 2084893)
Too drunk to come back so fast. Working..........

Too drunk? What is it like 6:15 there??
Good work!

Tromatic 01-09-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Caspeed (Post 2084895)
Except when they've modded the hell out of their car and then complain about a rattle, a trany problem or any number of other issues that could not have been caused by their actions or abuse. It's Toyota's fault.

I think you have missed the point. It's not the mods.


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